buildings that collapsed in the earthquake and your shufrtdz to see this >> people are getting caught to get this done and if people can find a place in our homes of shelter it will keep people in their homes. >> together we'll work out of getting out of 0 disaster and making the community bringing back to what we love. >> as a level of folks we've talked about we make recommendations to make everyone mitigated their soft story problems no other jurisdiction has tried to tackle this ordinance and we're set to have our program complete by 20/20.

>> the quality of the people are here because of the leadership. >> it's a great conversation statewide how to do this and i can only stress this enough if we didn't have the community of the san franciscans that are concerned people, you know, talking about our financing is options and our engineering requirement if you altercated all our work it's consensus driven to provide options we don't have one path but one relative for people to get there. >> it's been an excellent consumption of the services i think i'm going to need if i go through this yeah, i'm very

>> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk

about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard

of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that

collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay

area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers

and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground

shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is

fine. is that true ? >> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we

would have. 10 percent isn't really the threshold of damage. when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake. >> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for >> this lodge is home to some of

the best fly casting pools in the world. these shallow concrete pools don't have fish. this is just a place where people come to practice their fly casting technique. ith was built in the 1930's and ever since, people have been coming here to get back to nature. every year, the world championship of fly casting is held in san francisco and visitors from all over the globe travel to be here. >> we are here with phil, general manage of san francisco rec and parks department at the anglers lodge. what do you think about this? >> it is spectacular, travis from oregon, taught me a snake roll and a space cast. >> there are people from all over the world come to san francisco and say this is the

place to be. >> yeah. it's amazing, we have teams from all over the world here today and they are thrilled. >> i flew from ireland to be here. and been practicing since for the competition. all the best casters in the world come here. my fellow countryman came in first place and james is on the current team and he is the head man. >> it's unique. will not see anything like it where you go to compete in the world. competitions in ireland, scotland, norway, japan, russia each year, the facilities here in the park are second to none. there is no complex in the world that can touch it. >> i'm here with bob, and he has kindly agreed to tell me everything i need to know about casting. i'm going to suit up and next, we're in the water.

>> what any gentleman should do. golden gate angling has free lessons the second saturday of every month. we have equipment show up on the 9:30 on the second saturday of every month and we'll teach them to fly cast. >> ok. we are in the water. >> let me acquaint you with the fly rod. >> nice to meet you. >> this is the lower grip and the upper grip. this is a reel and a fly line. we are going to use the flex of this rod to fling away. exactly as you moved your hands. >> that's it? >> that's it. >> i'm a natural. >> push both arms forward and snap the lower hand into your tummy. push forward. >> i did gave it a try and had great time but i might need some

more practice. i met someone else with real fly casting skills. her name is donna and she is an international fly casting champion. >> i have competed in the casting ponds in golden gate park in san francisco. i have been to japan and norway for fly casting competition. i spend my weekends here at the club and at the casting pond. it's a great place to learn and have fun. on a season day like this, it was the perfect spot to be. i find fly casting very relaxing and also at the same time very challenging sport. takes me out into the nature. almost like drawing art in the air. and then i can make these beautiful loops out there. >> even though people from across the globe come here to

compete, it's still a place where locals in the know relax and enjoy some rely unique scenery. until next time, get out and play!

>> order of the san francisco public utilities commission today is october 28, 2014, roll call. >> commissioner president caen commissioner courtney commissioner moran and commissioner torres is executed will we have quorum. >> before you, you have the minutes of october 14th any appendixes or correction. >> i'll move package and seeing

none, all in favor, say i. opposed? the motion carries at this point i'd like to call for a public comment i have 3 speaker cards here sir. >> commissioners i want to welcome 0 commissioner anderson i watched how they gave you the kudos and i'm very happy you're here to serve another 2 or 4 years, 4 years we need our expertise i want you to read the

minutes careful because the last time upper absent we discussed a number of things and the commissioners compasses a new chairperson we're very happy to have jack and ms. ann king and especially i'm very happy because like you, mr. moran she was an institutional memory and as was said in that discussion at the committee you are the living walking encyclopedia which we need you because there are many things

happening where there are constituents talking about mountain tunnel. >> unless a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests versus and they're talking about the latest technologies we can use with a sewer system improvement project and we the constituents are paying attention to those very important projects because it is about water it's about energy, it's about our waterfront about concentration and seawall rise and so on and so forth and young people in the schools are learning about it is not just like going to the schools and putting fau detectives there

that's smith i can't think we can put of a sets in the public but be careful they don't carry diseases so i'm happy you're all going to be there for another 4 years and our chairperson for another 2 years and maybe get another 4 years that another commissioner commissioner courtney about use the experience to take us to a better place thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. >> dr. jackson. >> good afternoon dr. jackson i'm not going to repeat anything the gentleman said but welcome, welcome back i've been knowing him for a

long, long time before there was a commission and i think because he have also told the truth he wouldn't lie i remember saying to him don't go around the bush tell it like it is and he got rid of and it hurt me very bad i want to say to the listening audience those who are watch i know paul i want you to get our bicycle and read about that all second corinthians one through 8 it is the vision of paradis i from hunters point shipyard had a vision but it's become the valley of the dry bones i would like to say that we as a people should understand that i

do have a history of that shld they going to have a place we met and one day they tore it ban u down because of the toxins the politics that is being played on the people to come to san francisco to live over there and olsen lee have changed the map made it a different color and pit a to b that's why they built the housing and it's toxic over there more toxic than section e and you all do know anything about it but it is a crime i'm like ezekiel i'm the flower on the wall i'll be watching and come to tell you the truth like paul when god told him to put a stone on the side he didn't put

no stone in my side i'm here to tell you the truth i don't see where the director was supposed to came back and bring you information about the 3 square feet of space in southeast i thought it was going to be on the agenda about that daycare center not there not there at all and i don't a like it i could have stayed in my bed but i want you to understand that those they've got a new man coming tomorrow from the mayor's office to talk about the building college and one day you all going to realize really realize that college was gotten by mitigation and because of people coming

into my community. >> mr. kelly wasn't that letter distributed to dr. jackson. >> it's in the letter summary. >> i have a copy of it right here yeah. i have is a copy of it, too if anyone needs one are the copies over there. >> i believe it's in there. >> it's the last letter.

>> so shall i take mine out? okay ms. lewis come forward please hello and thank you for the opportunity to speak i want to speak in brief about the collaborations in the bay area last week now thousands the second week in the south bay the e. coli break and in san francisco they're talking about the water but i want to talk about the enter connectivity and this commission power reaches beyond the borders of san francisco and the bayer it's a whole state you guys have a lot of power thank you. i've been 83 at that love different

meetings i want you to that about the power i was at a meeting and they were talking about proposition 13 and what do i remember no buses and schools everything is cut and i didn't understand why parents wanted to save our property tax today, i am a homeowner so the proportion thirteen 13 are effecting their parents children and my great, great grandchildren the actions that you take in regards to the water that think about the collaborative i see disconnects because the decisions you make franco's hits on a couple of them i heard someone saying cut the retailer off of retailers

now i'm distend to the ground water and not have hetch hetchy you have the purest water there and outside of the state don't understand the purest of that water we want to look at it from a collaborative prospective what impacts us impacts people across the board we have the rim fire and we would have been devastated but reliability and other ability because the land was taken away from the native people and we need to go back to respect the land can give back to us but as we rob and disrespect we'll continue to have arsenic and all the other containments i have the luxury

of experiencing in santa fe thank you >> thank you very much. >> dr. jackson did you want to add to your remarks? >> yes. and thank you very much you know tomorrow there's going to be a meeting at southeast at the committee meeting and it says the topic of discussion the effort of the southeast community facility special guests theodore miller senior officer of the mayor and the special officer from the exterior affairs tomorrow i'll be letting those folks know this young man to take it back to the mayor i'm not giving up in space that's not the mayors jurisdiction not our staff jurisdictions to give up

anything i'm tired of them taking away things we've fought for for many years i was around i'm 81 years old why should i have to talk about the southeast college about southeast college why should i help my children need to be getting their ged and trained for jobs why don't i need to be fighting with our folks you need to go somewhere and sit down i'm not giving you i'm not going to give up my community i'm giving my community hope that no way i'm going to allow tour staff to continue doing what they doing, if i have to get a lawyer and file a lawsuit against you the commission accident mayors and

board of supervisors as well as did city planning a land use baby i'll do it don't think i won't you don't want to be a friend of mine or friends of any community it's on you not on me. >> dr. jackson perhaps this can be discussed between some mr. kelly and you it's really not on the agenda not up for discussion. >> i don't know. i know the area i'm the one that (inaudible) so come and tell me what's supposed to be there (inaudible). >> just want to point out for the record we've given the older lease in 1999, that spelled out