challenges? you might be and the challenges are i think, is, we have the president and said about pushing the large down hill and we have spent, and i am almost frightened to be able to tell you how much time that it took to take the first five through and hearing to be able to get the notices of decision because, of how different it is to get the investigation, and especially if the complaint has come in, and has not given you a on-line hosting listing, and a lot of individuals who are advertising on various on-line platforms including craig's list and all sorts of those out there now. >> and but, it is that they are getting smarter about not putting the pictures of the front of the building on that listing and since there are no addresses, trying to make sure that you have identified the

listing with the specific property, that currently follows under chapter 41, which is four units or more for us until this legislation actually, if and when it gets amended is very difficult. and sometimes we are laobing at pictures in the sheet and i have had the seven inspectors to the site to try to identify if that is the street. by those pictures. and it is difficult because that is taking away from resources of dealing with main maintenance and other issues that are the coreman date of the housing division and the current structure of chapter 42, does not use the model you have to take a case to a hearing and at that point, make a finding whether or not there is a violation or not, and at the time of the hearing, the

violation.

and to the planning commission and they duplicated the file and so some of it we want forward and some of it did not and because there are so many amendments and almost every superviser had one amendment that was propose and we need some time to be able to analyze this, probably we will tell you that the way that it is proposed is that it comes completely out of dbi and goes to planning, and which is in many ways a very good thing because of the impacts that it was having on our ability to do our mandates and however, having said that, there are ways that we can and we can assist, the planning department, with additional training and so when they are

doing the investigations if they see the things that we can address those are opportunities and until we have a chance to see everything adopted, you know, maybe it may be premature at this particular point and the other thing that i think that you should also consider is that when you have your next joint meeting with the planning commission, some of this goes back to them as well. and so that is just something that you might want to think in your timing. >> and well absolutely, my hope is that in the process of looking at these amendments, and the enforcement efforts of this ordinance, that our department and planning are actually included in it and

instead of, you know, the tail waging the dog. i hope ha we can support the experts of being part of the process of evaluating the amendments and the other thing, commissioner is that the current ordinance, only is with the two buildings and if this is a much, much larger issue to have to deal with. and so, the departments are going to need some time to be able to get the file version of this, and as i said, there are so many, and it was, it was astounding that the clerk of the court and the acting president at the time that follow all of those amendments i can't think back when there are that many pieces on the floor i would say that january might be a bit early, especially since they are going to have to take some of this stuff back to land use and planning but obviously after that and i mean that we have been very

proactive on this legislation, and all along and as part of it forward and so we are continuing to watch that and interact with it and the various supervisors and we will continue to do so and the commission for wanting to vet the concerns that you have but it may be a bit early but you may want to wait until the intent is to effect this before. >> exactly, i don't want what happened to happen again and so i think that sooner rather than later, both commissions should review this, and >> so at this point, we can only give you... >> what you have. >> and even though we might not quite understand it yet, because it is, i guess that we will see it all put together. >> so, thank you.

>> thank you, and public comment is great. >> and on the director's report, items 4 a through d. >> i notice that there are people here for the next hearing, item 8 is a... actually it is a detailed report that the staff did that i actually had went and it was interesting and there is a lot of things that will interest the commissioners. it is not a if it is okay, dan could do this any time key do it at the next meeting and it is kind of a chart that they put together on all of the data that they have been collectth over the last months and laid it out in a nice presentation

we can move it to next month, so that we can go forward and close the meeting so we can get on to it if that is okay with the commissioners. >> we may be hearing only one or two. >> and if we get back and we take on an hour or so. and i am just toned down and i have no real, and i am trying to be time management sensitive. >> move to continue. >> okay >> so if it is okay, with everybody we will move and table this for the next commission meeting of next month. >> okay. >> do we have a motion to continue that item? >> second. >> commissioner mccray made the motion and commissioner walker

seconded is there anying regarding continuing the item? anything none the item is continued. >> we are on the building commission agenda. >> so, are we going to item ten or continuing to this? >> item ten. >>commissioner's questions and matters. a. inquiries to staff. at this time, commissioners may make inquiries to staff regarding various documents, policies, practices, and procedures, which are of interest to the commission >> >> there, and there are none? >> commissioner walker? >> well, it is sort of more, b, i am sorry. >> okay. >> and item 10 b, future meetings and agenda. . at this time, the commission may discuss and take action to set the date of a special meeting and/or determine those items that could be placed

on the agenda of the next meeting and other future meetings of the building inspection commission. >> our next regularly schedule meeting is november 19th. >> okay. >> and so line of two, commissioner walker, and mar? >> commissioner melgar? >> just to reiterate the specifics short term rental legislation, and amendments, and including dbi and planning f they will come, also, specifically, the issue o it and if we could hear about the project and plan checks and with respect to that issue and have it on the agenda? >> okay. there was a point raised about the permit fees that we charged

for the different, and i would like to do an internal audit and have it back to the commission and maybe it will come to where the fees come out and we will reflect for the past year and whether we adhere to the federal guidelines and how closely we adhere to the federal guidelines and the all of the different projects. one of the things brought up was the (inaudible) that the enforcement by the contractors, and could play, in the short term rental, legislation? and enforcement? and specifically it would be

great to look at supervisor kim's amendment about the right of the private action, and how the code enforcement contractors could play a role in it and so it would be great to have them in here at the meeting if that is agendaized to be able to get their input, and thoughts about what role they could play that would be really great and get them in here too. >> great. >> commissioner mar? >> i have one other agenda item that i would like to report on and it might require work with the mayor's office of housing and because i wanted to report in terms of how many previously public housing or that was under the..., yeah, and it is now, it has been contracted out. and to the non-profits. and management. and what that would do, how that will impact our housing inspection division.

so, i would like actually a clear cut list from the mayor's office of housing of all of the previous public housing units that are managed by hud that have not been subcontracted out to you know to meet the private sector but still the non-profit private housing managers, and therefore my understanding of how we will deal with that in terms of both housing and even, building inspection. >> are there any public comment on item ten a or b? seeing none, item 11, review and approval of minutes of the regular meeting of july 16,

2014. >> >> the move the approval of the minutes. >> second. >> and a first and a second to approve the minutes. >> any public comment? >> seeing none, are all commissioners in favor? >> aye. >> any opposed? >> okay, the minutes are approved. item 12, adjournment. is there a motion to adjourn. >> so moved. >> second. >> so madam secretary, if i may recommend that we adjourn for ten minutes and be back here at 5 past eleven, and i believe that it is ten past eleven and we will get back. and that is recommends a meeting and now adjourned and it is 11 a.m., and we will take approximately, a ten to 15 minute, recess, and come back as the abatement appeals board, thank you. >>

>> what if you could make a memorial that is more about information and you are never fixed and it can go wherever it wants to go? everyone who has donated to it could use it, host it, share it. >> for quite a great deal of team she was hired in 2005, she struggled with finding the correct and appropriate visual expression. >> it was a bench at one point. it was a darkened room at another point. but the theme always was a theme of how do we call people's attention to the issue of speci species extinction. >> many exhibits do make long detailed explanations about species decline and biology of

birds and that is very useful for lots of purposes. but i think it is also important to try to pull at the strings inside people. >> missing is not just about specific extinct or endangered species. it is about absence and a more fundamental level of not knowing what we are losing and we need to link species loss to habitat loss and really focuses much on the habitat. >> of course the overall mission of the academy has to do with two really fundamental and important questions. one of which is the nature of life. how did we get here? the second is the challenge of sustainability. if we are here how are we going to find a way to stay? these questions resonated very strongly with maya.

>> on average a species disappears every 20 minutes. this is the only media work that i have done. i might never do another one because i'm not a media artist per se but i have used the medium because it seemed to be the one that could allow me to convey the sounds and images here. memorials to me are different from artworks. they are artistic, but memorials have a function. >> it is a beautiful scupltural objective made with bronze and lined with red wood from water tanks in clear lake. that is the scupltural form that gives expression to maya's project. if you think about a cone or a bull horn, they are used to get the attention of the crowd,

often to communicate an important message. this project has a very important message and it is about our earth and what we are losing and what we are missing and what we don't even know is gone. >> so, what is missing is starting with an idea of loss, but in a funny way the shape of this cone is, whether you want to call it like the r.c.a. victor dog, it is listen to the earth and what if we could create a portal that could look at the past, the present and the future? >> you can change what is then missing by changing the software, by changing what is projected and missing. so, missing isn't a static installation. it is an installation that is going to grow and change over time. and she has worked to bring all of this information together from laboratory after laboratory including, fortunately, our great fwroup of researche e-- g researchers at the california academy. >> this couldn't have been more

site specific to this place and we think just visually in terms of its scupltural form it really holds its own against the architectural largest and grandeur of the building. it is an unusual compelling object. we think it will draw people out on the terrace, they will see the big cone and say what is that. then as they approach the cone tell hear these very unusual sounds that were obtained from the cornell orinthology lab. >> we have the largest recording of birds, mammals, frogs and insects and a huge library of videos. so this is an absolutely perfect opportunity for us to team up with a world renown, very creative inspirational artist and put the sounds and sights of the animals that we study into a brand-new context, a context that really allows people to appreciate an esthetic way of

the idea that we might live in the world without these sounds or sites. >> in the scientific realm it is shifting baselines. we get used to less and less, diminished expectations of what it was. >> when i came along lobsters six feet long and oysters 12 inches within they days all the oyster beds in new york, manhattan, the harbor would clean the water. so, just getting people to wake up to what was just literally there 200 years ago, 150 years ago. you see the object and say what is that. you come out and hear these intriguing sounds, sounds like i have never heard in my life. and then you step closer and you almost have a very intimate experience. >> we could link to different institutions around the globe, maybe one per continent, maybe two or three in this country,

then once they are all networked, they begin to communicate with one another and share information. in 2010 the website will launch, but it will be what you would call an informational website and then we are going to try to, by 2011, invite people to add a memory. so in a funny way the member rely grows and there is something organic about how this memorial begins to have legs so to speak. so we don't know quite where it will go but i promise to keep on it 10 years. my goal is to raise awareness and then either protect forests from being cut down or reforest in ways that promote biodiversity. >> biodiverse city often argued to be important for the world's human populations because all of the medicinal plants and uses that we can put to it and fiber that it gives us and food that it gives us. while these are vital and

important and worth literally hundreds of billions of dollars, the part that we also have to be able to communicate is the more spiritual sense of how important it is that we get to live side by side with all of these forms that have three billion years of history behind them and how tragic it would be not commercially and not in a utilitarian way but an emotio l emotional, psychological, spiritual way if we watch them one by one disappear. >> this is sort of a merger between art and science and advocacy in a funny way getting people to wake unand realize what is going on -- wake up and realize what is going on. so it is a memborial trying to get us to interpret history and look to the past. they have always been about lacking at the past so we proceed forward and maybe don't commit the same mistakes.

>> superintendent carranza has an announcement oh, excuse me. does anyone need translation in the room i don't think there was a call for translation anyone needing chinese seeing none, be superintendent the gay street alliances in item d is withdrawn that will be presented in a future meeting at the board of education. >> this is approval of november 14th may have is motion and second any corrections reenforcement please mass can say could. >> mr. chin mr. haney ms. maufas menus dr. murase