>> commissioners, i think we're going to get into a discussion this is not agendized to if we could (laughter) maybe move on to to different topic and agenda device this on a later date and commissioner richards. >> first one i guess i should have brought this up we had a couple states that passed the cannabis laws the d.c. joined colorado and washington i understand california will have a ballot in 2016 i know there's really no movements from a state government point of view to try to regulate this i'm wondering with this kind of train coming down the tracks anything from our situation in the city point of view that passes how we're going to handle it any thoughts

on if it's going to be sold if where a walgreens. >> the short answer is no commission because it is not on the ballot but it depends on what happens at the state level in terms of the legislation coming forward if it's 2016 it's two years down the road once there's an official ballot measure we can determine that. >> the second one correcting the dots sue hester is not here but she talked about having a resident reminded for large projects she had lunch with ken rich if the mayor's office and talked about this study does anybody know how many units were sold or if they match the tax

records with the occupancy does anybody have any idea what study their referring to. >> i mean, i, get back to you. >> you want to be careful about having a discussion. >> i think - it's an item nice to talk about in the future and one other quick one commissioner fong i've been thinking about the action list i promise by next week i'll have something to you and move it forward and happy to participate. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you just a couple of quick things i know that commissioner president wu we have tasks on the board to get a meeting together to talk about the requests that our various commissioners made i want to reiterate that will take

nor for thought a meeting with sfmta happening in the first quarter of next year i'd like to see a meeting by the end of the year to coordinate it and make sure it happens in the first quarter of next year i thought about this i saw commissioner johnck's request are for the 27th area i don't think i've mentioned this before i hate creating work for people but it's been a few times we've had dr items that have been continued because the drawings were not drawn up improperly or clear i'd like to see i'm looking at go the zoning administrator a memo or verbal update on the guidance for people on the residential

construction or rehab it's weird seeing the tip of the iceberg i got to building there's more issues under the surface with people providing anything from a schedule to a full blown rendering i want to know what guidance we give people on the documents to give the department. >> just a quick response the first step the building applications they have to meet the standards with the building permit application the second step under section 311 additional details that must be on the plan in addition to what the planning code requires this is implement by our planning division i can follow-up to make sure that section 311 are followed properly and have additional discussions. >> excellent i'll add we talked

about did follow-up meeting with the building inspection commission that can be another that agenda item i know there's requirements that obviously that are broad and we're following them we've seen a number of cases where the documents were not prepared. >> in addition there are guidelines many our rules and regulations that's correct we've worked on that. >> we've never updated them the creation as in the department of 5 sets of submittals that will be easy to address those that were simpleminded prior to the new commissioners been put on i'll be happy to look at this and meet with dbi it's simple to create less a.m. gut than

expected. >> thank you commissioner antonini. >> yeah. a few things i had a meeting recently with one of the porcelain on fulsome a p u d as a point of information my office is in the cal hallow area and the barky has been closed it doesn't make any difference but to the request by commissioner moore for the projects to give us update of how many of their residents are full-time residents and how many work in san francisco and other types of things we've had that voluntarily if a couple of projects from the infinity they have surprisingly high numbers full-time residents working in san francisco and the number of units that have children it's a good idea to have a policy where

we suggest to project sponsors if possible consistent with privacy for the boroughs of the unit to try to give us an idea to dispel the talk that goes on about other things it's good to have the figures to do it without infringe of the privacy of the occupants. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further on to item 6 s which is part of topic of the previous discussion the commission prioritization so we have this commission i began to provide you an action list with our weekly corresponds it is a relatively short list is commissioner fong asked we agenda device it matter for open

forum the 4 items that are currently on your action list are the sequa france u training that was completed the cultural heritage was completed and the eastern neighborhoods update and the mayor's office of housing and initiative work streams that are coming to you as an informational update next week so i'll leave it to you. >> commissioner fong would you like to make comments and i think that the direction was and the discussions westbound in addition to those are there another reports or information we want to gather throughout the years jonas has a request to find data ignore the purpose of this conversation if we request those reports what's the ultimate goal how we want to use them is housing the highest priority or the office

allocation airbnb still an item to spend time on i leave it to you but we should set a vision of two or three items when those opportunities to come up to support those 23r7 items and obviously raise higher to a level of importance and given the staff would spend time on those intense report. >> commissioner fong i'll frame the struggle with the department staff and myself is this is the commission is a body made up of 7 members if an individual commissioner requests something to be placed on a action list then it doesn't necessarily get responded to because one commissioner topic matter there needs some consensus.

>> we wanted an initial discussion commissioner fong and i were briefed by mr. kelly that the department is putting together a framework to think about the long term planning work that the department is doing i recent a feeling our issue areas we're interested in understanding is part of that i don't know what the timeline is for unveiling that kind of framework but that would help to guide our conversation otherwise you know, i want to maintain 0 that the transparency of the commission but i want to make sure that we are guided strategize in our request for information. >> commissioner richards. >> i think you know it is is making issue what's happening today and what can we do in the future to mitigate that what's

happening in the future from an office allocation the 3 times displacement as we come up with additional material for the office allocation how can we address those 3 things to have a process those are the kind of things i'm talking about context how can we make sure that the decisions are in context with all the other things i don't want to make a point decision we've been provided maps that are fantastic on the large project south of market and mission an conditional use what's united states conditional use or is co-ownership making f that worse or better what are we doing are we making the city better or a worse place to live thank you.

>> director ram. >> commissioners, i hear two different scales of issue some of the items that jonas has on the list is fairly simple request for information; right? it would be helpful for you'll have us to keep track i hear you talking about are sort of your own agenda setting for the next two or three years it would be helpful to have a broader discussion if you want to address so i intend to separate that from an action list that tends to be database, if you will, or process space in reference to the president's comment been bills group the citywide planning group works on a 5 year agenda for key issues to address and the urban

planning issues, etc. that is meant to be wrapped up by the end of this year or at least when we have a discussion about 2 at the end of the year i'll be happy to bring that forward in january to talk about that and have a boarder discussion it is obviously it is like housing and transportation policies and or their high on that list my sense we'll probable be prepared in january to have a broad discussion. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. for me, i think it's already been brought up we have a timetable on the issue we've decided to take projects individually and next year have a look back on that another issue i want to be kept informed on the transbay terminal completion and funding as well

as the extension of the caltrain to determine which is very important for the success of entire region and that would be informational we don't have to vote on issues surrounding those maybe some of those we would and the other thing that comes up frequently is how to expedite processes simple possible we're extremely busy and the staff has added new members but whatever possible to help to expedite the process of items being brought to us and after a decision is made the process through dbi and others to have the permitting process moving forward in fact, i understood recently, i talked to one of the staff

members they said members are being brought into help with the projects and most of o people and their wondering why it is taking so long to get throw the permitting process this my help a lot and finally one the most essentials is dovetailing transportation issues with growth in this business and housing and cultural and entertainment because it seems like we sort of have two tracks mta and others dealing with transportation sort of go on one-track with the decision made as far as bus rapt and other things and then we're working independently at the approval projects it seems like if we had better connection and look at it long term solutions to transportation i think we could do much better because it is an

area where i think we're weak and not having enough rapt type of services within the city of san francisco lot parts of city. >> commissioner moore. >> i'd like to expand on what commissioner richards said and that is policy looking into the future for me one part of policy is to potentially expand how we look comprehensive will i which will benefit if the historic preservation commission not as isolated with you enacting with the planning commission so it is 60 percent and 70 percent professionals who's experience and insight can hope to frame we could learn from each other and not step into each other's jurisdiction

but knowing more and more helps with the see knowledge a few weeks ago i see a number of highly skilled professionals and again, it is not to break into each other's territory but get out of silo thinking so people that have been around a lot longer than me i greater respect the energy the commitment the commissioners are making to serve on the commission the health commission is important for you to consultant on the mcd potential change for laws and on and on so i would encourage us to want to embrace that and move forward. >> commissioner johns. >> let me kind of wrap up this

is a step one i do feel the planning department and the commission this is my interest for being here takes a role with a lot of disciplines so what i'm hearing long-range what is san francisco going to look like in thirty years ago some of us may not on that planet it's important (laughter) that we take the responsibility of you know whatever mistakes the decisions were made 35 years ago we give a chance of looking at that's it broad we have an opportunity to discuss that and in the area of transportation i love the idea of having an update from matt and the campus growth we get that constitution

and jobs where jobs are going to be in 2020 and height and things that don't seem as be directly effected but homelessness i'm curious about the real status and if we're gaining on it and should we have a shelter project that comes before us we have a better understanding maybe i'll throw that out to all of us if that's okay to the president to jot down we can meet with a separate subcommittee and jonas weigh through that to raise to a higher level of authority i want to talk about a long term of on. >> thank you, commissioners moving on placing you under

department matters item 7 department announcements. >> no, no announcements. >> item 8 oh. >> oh, i was going to go onto the board report. >> let me call the item arrest 8 at the board of supervisors and the historic preservation there's no report from the board of appeals. >> they meet last time i'll note that commissioner hurtado as resigned from the board of appeals she had a busy schedule and the general council for the agricultural labor relations board that has been taking up time and we regret she's been on the board for 2 1/2 years an excellent commissioners

thoughtful insight this vacancy of one of the seats and down to 4 members and 3 to overturn decisions and commissioners no questions we'll move on the general public comment is closed. the jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission for up to 3 minutes. i have no speaker cards. >> my name is dean thank you for your services i see mr. sanchez push him and challenge him he's still doing a good job and you're taking and

blocking and tackling we've got a whole season i've got a little piece and ms. president said last week the point to get more trees and thank you you for your direction and recently to get more trees and previously our government create factualism for getting more trees and that might be seen of the policy in forms of policy of vision zero and specifically how much beyond the engagement of this policy a engagement individuals rather it does factualism divides us in funding does that dr. divide the tree huggers and the biologists

is a tree or shrub or bush are we looking the dimensions are we seeing for the slush and looking at the tree instead of the forest and ultimately we work hard to get to a point b we imagine this as a fixed point in 2020 having the resources and labor to get it down on our pathway to point b we can learn as urban planners and children a can do better and have an opportunity to engagement the community and raise for investment dollars while creating a green and wonderful society i had an opportunity for businesses and volunteers and school circumferences to get involved we've done this an microsoft we divided one street

took that one street and broke that down and had community members that are wanting to be in the process i was there 2 hundred volunteers were there with vehicular traffic with the open space what if point b as ms. president is to get more trees. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please good afternoon commissioner president wu and supervisor i applaud the idea that the documents need to be more exacting and lbe legible a lot of times back and forth scales of combined things get hidden and sometimes in the lead documents words like less than significant gets intuptd for a

third for instance, for an example would be the north beach library we have the actual physical completed building to see that less than significant intrusion into the view corridor of mason street and 19 and a half seat so it is very important that the documents are thorough and also in this case there was no view from the north west corner from columbus and mason to show how the view would be o laid from the day i urge we hold all of us to the highest standard of dimensions and views and accuracy and i'd like to thank commissioner antonini we recommended no september we watch the ken burns special on

the roosevelt i was dieptd it burns didn't go into the extent that roosevelt bolstered and established j edgar hoover the funding for the 41 and the spying that was developed under that administration administration was deepened against labor that was a war of a billion dollars of strikebreaking in the 30s the government was involved with thank you. >> thank you. is there any additional public comment - general public comment is closed. . >> commissioners that places you under our regular calendar food and beverage an informational

presentation. >> good afternoon commissioner president wu and commissioners my name is diane and i'm a senior planner with the planning department thank you for the opportunity on the makers and morphs study the accountable studies in the report are a result of a year along study of the needs and challenges by food and beverages in san francisco particularly food and beverage manufacturers and distribution businesses and the idea behind the work interest is value in understanding how concentrations of businesses can generate nation and extremely growth in a way that might not occur when those corporations act if isolation it is a crotch effort between the office of economic workforce development and spur as a troublesome support of the

department of public health department and sf made that represents manufacturers and several creative mission driven food and beverage companies in the city i want to relocate two folks in particular that worked 0 hard on the effort ms. chang and tiffany with the office of economic workforce development shield lead the implementation efforts for the recommendations in the report she's the recommendation leader so those are some of the benefits to the san francisco economic because of the work you've can you think open instruction you understand all of those the one that drives any passion is the tape one the

economic employment diversity a lot of those jobs are for folks who don't have a degree or educational training those jobs are available to the folks that's one the main drivers from the planning department those again are some of the folks on our steering committee and sf made and vegetation and the hotels planning market this is a look at the entire food and beverage industry cluster and we're looking at everything from suppliers to consumers and our study focused mainly on the middle currently that are a production murray's and distribution businesses and the connections those businesses have to suppliers and consumers this looks like the region overlook trends of food manufacturing growth in the past

about 20 years purple line is san francisco and there's definitely we saw decline in this industry in san francisco since 1990 but about 2006 those industries started to pick up again and manufacturing starred to pick up again, this data is through 2012 and anecdotally the businesses have continued to there and grow and expand in san francisco this shows particularly you'll call your attention to the status on the bottom right shows san francisco manufacturing food and beverage manufacturing and distribution is 25 percent of san francisco's production and distribution differences about a quarter of our distribution industries in san francisco it's quite significant and this shows the