an agreement commissioners i'd like to continue this until the next meeting and have the applicant sit down again with the supervisors office and the police and come to a final agreement with everyone is on the same page because if you stop serving alcohol but does do music people are not going to be drinking water there's going to be doing something else my motion to continue this for a week and have him recede and negotiate and come back with a final agreement to present to us i'm uncomfortable with this just very uncomfortable with the trial period i'm not sure that's even what are you going to do in

the trial period didn't work that's my motion. >> i second with infringe add on conditions. >> i suggest that he would have a experienced security team or h o s even if you have one and have a conversation with the police department so they feel comfortable your front door is open sound like you're a dj playing not urge not going to be outside right now they no interaction with experience so i support a second on commissioner joseph motion. >> just for discussion maybe a good thing if we got one of our staffers in on the negotiation

as well. >> since we're having a discussion it is just the way everything is gone down and knowing the space i'm not sure that is a space that calls for a entertainment license maybe their better off with a limited live quite frankly and something that should be discussed every bar shouldn't be a entertainment venue i've been to this bar i hear the use of equipment that's not meant for small bars but other franchises the difference is invite and day and again, to echo aduries statement that through the process there's been a lot of back and forth i don't feel we can add our trust this

is going to run smoothly after the process so i'll actually move for denial of this permit. >> there's a motion on the floor and second so we have to deal with that one first. >> on the motion with the second just looking at this i know t even it will come back in two weeks with the same thing more opposition from the community because it sounds like from what we hear from the police department and the mayor's office that the community you thought that this was settled and they were kind of in agreement with what happened but it sounds like there's been changes so i think we're going to come back f in two weeks with with the same thing but more opposition what they thought was finalized had not been.

>> so you can i'm thinking that if they go back with the proper people you know if he has experienced people the thing is not to have it until at least midnight as a trial they say it's okay. i also building that someone should have a chance to prove themselves without experienced people it's going to fail so my thing is go back to the please and supervisor kim's office and you know you've got to come with experienced people even if you get a overkill system you spend a lot of money and can't turn that up the continuance is okay for me if they can't work it out we'll talk about the denial. >> i think we're ready. >> open the motions to continue

to the november 18th meeting that's the motion. >> commissioner frost commissioner moshoyannis commissioner joseph commissioner lee commissioner hyde. >> no motion passes so this will be continued until the november 18th meeting okay. that portion is closed so, now we're at commissioners questions or comments do we have any questions or comments i'd like to say i pushed hard for demetri to apply and i'm so glad you're here i think you're a fantastic representative so welcome. >> adding to that we're waiting for our environmental review on

festivals and demetri's experience with the fairs and experience in the area of public health how to deal with people in fulsome when it's one hundred degrees out i'm so happy you're here urge you to be a big asset to us welcome broad. >> i want to extend warm wishes to bryan and his immediate family hope things go well, for him are there any other commissioner questions or comments. >> we talked about it with the last things are we going to ask staff to help facilitate the discussions between the police department and the owner. >> yes. i think i asked him for sure. >> okay do we have public

comment on the commissioners questions or comments seeing none, closed all right. any new business requests for future agenda items for the commission? all right. seeing none, our meeting because i didn't have one is that the sigh of relief all right. so our commission meeting for this evening is now at its end thank you very much

>> good afternoon everyone, welcome to the mission, 24, the heart of the historic san

francisco. and here here is he bart station, and thank you, rodney lee for inviting us here to use this plaza as part of our bart leadership. and we will want to thank him for working together with our city, we have great news and we want to share that with you, but let me say this, first of all we are in the heart of the mission and it is busling, and a lot of people and getting on and off the bart and on the bus and public transportation and we see a lot of this right here in the mission and all throughout the mission and extending downtown, soma and it is active and one of the equalizer, that i have always said and certainly, when my conversations with the directors are here today that the transportation in san

francisco is the equalizer and that on the same bus or the same car you will be riding with a ceo of a company. or someone going to the mission bay or restaurant or a motel worker, we understand that and that is why we are investing a lot in the infrainstruct stur and every time that the secretary turns around we have a proposal in front of you, and he understands that as a former mayor of a great state of charlotte, north carolina he understands what mayor haves to do. we have to work on our infrastructure all of the time that is why we have the great partners the regional partner is here from the department of transportation and as i said, bart is here and edriskin and

the president of the commission is here, and california, our county, and with our former mayor is working with the many cities around the country is the ladders of opportunity and there really is a way for to focus on that the opportunity to get to the people to get to your jobs and the families to have the transportation to get to the school and any place that they need, and the infrastructure that is absolutely necessary for the cities across this country to succeed. whether it is bart, or light rail, we are all investing in the right things and as you recall, earlier, a few weeks ago i stood in front of you, to

sign a historic purchase, and light rail vehicles that will be here beginning next year and a 1.2 billion dollars we will have the new light rail and we will see that and we are also utilizing the past investments that the department of transportation have made throughout many years and secretary of fox knows as well that i am sure has reviewed the work that is going on in the drans bay transit center and the work that has gone on with the light rail vehicles but all of the infrastructure that we are building out and the central subway information there all of the different projects that the federal government has been co-investing it and we have

made tremendous progress and we are proud of our membership with the federal government and so today, it is another great announcement, these programs with different players throughout all of the major cities and they have that theme and that is the people got to get to work and got to have the good transportation and the vehicles to do it in. and so today i am joining and thanking secretary fox for his wonderful leadership and i will welcome yet again to make a joint announcement that we have it with the federal help, and to be able to procure, some 9 million dollars of new buses that will be the 60-foot long buses and i think about four of them that will be able to procure with this money that will allow more people to be in

modern buses and just a lot more people to utilize a lot of incredible amount of rider ship and in fact as we explained earlier, last week, is that all time high and so for the 750,000 people a year. i am sorry a day, and this rider ship is probably more than all of the other systems combined on a daily basis, that is how much the people are investing and therefore, it is appropriate for us to be investing in proposition a, which is a $500 million bond, to really make sure that we invest in our public and in our pedestrian safety, and in the timing of all of our muni buses and in all of the street designs that we have before the voters in the under proposition a and this is the kind of investment that i think when the secretary worked locally

and at the want to compliment what we are already doing and make sure that it is a success, and so, in this context, where the transportation is a key to success, for everybody, and here in this city, and where we have a secretary who is the former mayor of a great city who knows what i go through every single day, knows what our transportation experts go through every day and the challenges and the mixed use on our streets. and the need to accommodate all modes of transportation, and i am warmly welcoming former mayor, and now secretary of our u.s. transportation department fox. >> first of all i want to thank your mayor, ed lee one of the great leaders across the can country for sending us one of the most incredible

applications for our opportunity grant, and as well as the partners here and ed riskin and tom noland with the transportation agency and those folks behind me and the folks who are going about their business, going to work and getting home and going to the school play, or whatever they are doing trying to get someplace, and that is why we are all here. you know, i grew up in a community where on saturdays, i would have to get up in the morning with my grandmother and take the city bus into downtown to go shopping. and it was her only way of getting someplace and she did not have a driver's license and she did not have a car. and i learned early, through those experiences how much people need public transportation. the fact of life and in too many corners of america the connections that the people need to the 21st century

economy are limited and here you have a city that is growing. growing by what i read was an expected 30 percent, by 2030. and so you are going to have more demands on the system. more people waiting for the bus, more situations where the bus has to passed by because it is too fall, if somebody depending on public transit to get to a job and they miss the bus because it is too crowded that is an opportunity lost for that individual and so we here have done something that we think is pretty important. and we have put together 100 million plus dollars and completed around the country for the transit systems to tell us what it is that you need, that will help with some of these connections to the folks who are trying to get into the middle class of folks who are

struggling to stay in it so that we can create the kind of fluid connection to the 21st century economy that so many people need. and san francisco delivered and you have to understand that you have been at this for a while. >> the muni system is known as the nation's first publicly owned big city transit system you celebrated a 100 anniversary of the open. and just one line, of the golden gate park. the mayor said, i want everyone to feel that it is but the beginning of a mighty system of street cars that will some day encompass the entire city and

today we put a corner stone in the foundation to help that happen as the mayor said and 9 million dollar grant from the city falls san francisco, and for the transit system plays about 12 extended buses into your system. this means that instead of the folks having to deal with waiting for another bus to come by, you have additional capacity so that the people can get on it and what does it mean? >> somebody who might have otherwise been late for work or to a job interview now has the opportunity to get l on time. and what does it mean, it means that all of these folks out here who are doing their level best to get up in the morning and do the best in the problem. and come home and support their families. and that they have the kind of confidence that the system that is here in san francisco is going to be bet forethem in the future.

i wish that we could help the communities that need these vital connections restored but the reality is that we don't have the resources out of washington that are needed to help this country move forward in its robust way that we can. and that is why the president and i submitted a bill called the grow america act, the congress back in the spring, and it was just keep the funding at level, rates over the next several years, our bill will increase transportation and 22 percent increase for the highways and a 70 percent increase for transit, and bringing passenger rail system, into the family of dedicated revenue streams so that we can build a 21st

century rail passenger system in america and that is a big vision and but folks we are a big country and this is a big city, and this is getting bigger by the day and the growth is going to come whether we bring it out of the future or not in washington. and we just want to urge you to take this one this one dimension, of what is possible in this country and what we are doing today. and remember that we have got to build on it to make your voices heard not only here but across the country into washington, d.c. because we need a long term surface transportation bill to do more of the good work that we would like to do and so mayor it is great to be with you and all of your colleagues here, andism looking forward to joining you and mc hammer some time, one of these days, and but, at the end of the day, the work that you are doing while you are here on the ground is supporting the american economy and the future of so many american people and

i want to thank you for what you are doing, thank you. >> and mchammer and me and secretary fox on muni watch for that. >> and secretary, please send our city's thanks to president obama for this he has been a great leader and i know that ever since we talked as mayors, the u.s. conference of mayers, and have made at that time and we were dealing with infrastructure we were telling the government what to do, i like that the former mayors occupy the secretary positions because they get the stuff done and you know our san francisco municipal transportation agency has great leadership as well and i have been there when the commissions had to listen to a lot of different feelings about whether muni was working for them or not. and, i wanted to say just again, thank you to all of the

commissions and the commissioners on that very important commission, because they hear it all of the time. and you know, you are making great strides and effort to improve it and they have gotten us in the city not to be separate but to be included with their vision of what the future can be. and leading that effort has been tom nolan and i want to thank him for his wonderful leadership. come on up, tom, thank you. >> thank you very much. mr. mayor, and i always say that when i talk about the system, i am proud to be a part tf and the 700 some thousand people every day in a city to get around that is difficult, and the vice chair is proud to be part of it as well. welcome the secretary of san francisco and we look forward to many visits back here in the future. and the transportation hub right here, and we had the additional capacity of the buses and supports the options for the entire region and huni street and that is right under

the parks and this is a great place to have the event today to support the buses on the 14th and i live on the 38th geary line and i, combine the rider ship between bart and mta and one point. 1 million passengers every single day ride the system and this investment is totally worth while and in this counter, so many of you will rely on it to get to the parts of the bay area in the city of san francisco and these buses will help to improve the service to get to and from work and there is lives are more comfortsable and in conjunction of the other improvements that they have made for the transit riders and with the entire city and for all of those who are concerned about the health of the city of san francisco and our transportation system is, the more efficient our bike and the taxi and the car rides can be and all work, and the more that we improve the heavily utilized corridors the more that we are improving the commutes and the vitality of

the city and so thank you very much. >> so you can applaud right now for me. and then we will get to the other guy in a minute. >> you see, nobody started out and if i have to do that myself. and so, my great pleasure on behalf of the board to introduce, ed, the director of transportation and i always think of transportation gathering should have a litary quote, and so i am going to quote and albert alvy one said to idea that sometimes you have to go a long way out of your way to come a short way back, i find that true every day in all kinds of ways. >> three years ago when we were seeking a new leader, we considered national search. and we had an interesting express from all over the country, the people and the major responsibility and in the city family itself for a possible leaders and ed riskin came to the top of that list, and he was right here and already doing work at the dpw and we had as he said gone a

long way out of our way to come a short way back, mr. secretary and mayor i can say that on behalf of the entire board, we have no regret and we are prouder of what he is doing and a challenging situation and we are going forward and we would not be doing this without the leadership of the director of transportation. [ applause ] >> thank you chair, and secretary fox, and my name is ed and i am the director of transportation here and i am serving as the president of the national association of city transportation officials and i truly from both of those perspectives, that i want to especially thank the secretary as well as the department of transportation and the obama administration for really understanding the importance of cities to our nation's economy and the importance of transportation and specifically transit, to our cities. and as the mayor said, muni is

a system that serves people of all income level and we also, and this is based on a survey of 22,000, of our riders that we completed, earlier this year. and you know that we serve, disproportionately a number of low income folks who really rely on muni to allow them to realize that those opportunities of the secretary was talking about to get to work to get to school to get to a hospital. and to get to church, and as for those folks and it is really everybody who rides muni that are really impacted by the size, and the quality of our fleet. and in a particularly our bus fleet, and it is a real impact to them and they have to wake up earlier in the morning to get to where they are going and they get home later in the evening and their ride is crowded and stressful and that is really what this grant is going to help us address. complimenting the investment that we expect from the voters under prop a that is going to help us redesign our right-of-way to help it work better for transit and this

grant, will allow us to purchase 12 new vehicles, new, additional modern, state of the art, large vehicles that will improve the quantity and quality of the transit service that we can deliver all san franciscan and make sure that everybody can realize those opportunities and it is the secretary said that it is not just today's riders but we have a lot more people coming to san francisco and if we want san francisco to remain the great place that it is today we want to be able to accommodate as many of them as choose to be able to ride transit and so, this is an investment for today, and it is an investment for the future or extremely grateful and for the u.s. department of transportation and awarding us this grant and we will steward these funds well and get the great vehicles on the streets as soon as possible, and i want to recognize the great finance staff that put together this great application under the leadership of (inaudible) and they are hoping to build the confidence in the federal government and the state and local partners that we can

improve the transportation here in san francisco and so thanks again, to everybody who is here behind me, particularly the secretary, and for taking the time out of his schedule to come here to our great city and where we are looking forward to getting these buses on the street and we want to thank you all for coming and we will see you on these buses as they have hit the streets of san francisco soon. and thank you all very much for coming. >> >> >>

>> good morning, would you call the roll? >> chair kim has a scheduling conflict with will not be prept, and therefore, harper will precede. >> director lee. >> here. >> nuru. >> present. >> reiskin. >> present. >> sartipi, present. >> and harper. >> you have a quorum, thank you very much.