stepping up the trouble shooting stills skills for the first responders including a system where our rail inspectors will be working with us to move a vehicle to expedite details we're trying to 0 moved in reducing this details and communicating nor focusly in terms of the capacity and before i leave communications could you what is the agency doing to get the operators for consistent in terms of communication there are operators that do a great job keeping riders updated and others you'll be stuck in the subway for minutes and not hear a word sometimes, i hear the operators have a problem

getting feedback so they don't know what to say what is the improvement. >> number one and our observation is correct tocy it's uneven and some operators do a terrific jimbo bob city job we need to number one we'll refocus a special aspect of training not only for operators on customer service, and, secondly, this will - this help will be available in 3 languages to help the operators make the announcements, if you will, a script or guidance if - in how they do that and we'll train not only the operators but our station agents and front line employees that's along with some of the if

we can go to a similar first of all, the advantage of having a report or push button announcement system to call out the stops and also to have probably a series of messages depending on what the cause of the incident that if the operators are uncomfortable or not confident communicating then they can push a button and have that prerecorded it works well on buses there's no reason we can't do it on the rail see the other thing we're trying to support them with the staff that's in the field from the control center to make announcements the biggest technology breakthrough that will come with a radio system that allows multiple announcements and multiple people to talk to one another it

relies so much on the performance of humans to file that gap by the limit technology but i indicated we can help them out we can do a lot better so - >> again, thank you. >> so with that, we then i talked about the service and capacity and this becomes important and i thank tip my hat to all of you both as policymakers and regular riders of the system to suggest something that frankly i'm not sure we would have looked at it makes sense we're pleased with what we're seeing as you pointed out we don't have enough cars to serve everybody again for a lot of different reasons to rehab them and do regular maintenance the fact we're starting with

less than we should have to the incision to look at with the one car we did alternative it goes like a longitudinal or more open isle we've got mixture feedback but more positive than negative so we're going to do right now in the next couple of months tend to the cars from the first seating to the reconfigure to the longitudinal seating to create more space we're going to focus with the number of operators out over the last several years and some of the problems with the fleet we're trying to get back in front of one of the things we want to see is refocus on timeliness and schedule leaving the terminal early we're in the process you

see on the screen to put at key terms a clock clock to provide departure times and we're reassessing the schedules they were built with operate and car restraints and don't allow turn around time for a break we're doing another thing from a service and safety standpoint we have a lot of relieve points on the streets it's more efficient to have an operator meet another operators on both the rail and bus side we want to revisit those locations every operator will makes relieve will make the relief in a location there's a supervisor or manager that can answer questions and give them

combines as to what might be going on in the system those are some right of short term actions we're doing to deal with the service and capacity issues you mentioned the vehicle side of it we have improved the maintenance program and looking at the preventive maintenance skefldz making them better fit the mime of the fleet and created a strong qualify assurance we've doubled the number of rail parts we're focusing on doing the prevent of preventive maintenance and with our support we look at the report on the cars they need work constantly some of them maybe here as long as 10 years we need to focus on

the key systems that are failing and ata any muni riders knows occasionally you, you see waters dripping down on you and the cause of that is basically, the cooling system has not been replaced in over 10 years that's one of the things we need to focus on and focus on the doors and finally on this one we need to leverage newest facility and muni on third and 25th it got the most room and the most potential we've started the process to build that out and make it a full service maintenance facility some of what has happened this is not a reason to stop and applaud but this is a good trend typical mean distance between

failure it's a trend you're starting off low and moving in the right direction it's might have and consistent we should continue that and get even better by focusing our maintenance programs on things like doors and steps and propulsion that represents the majority of details again, we can't get the new cars here soon enough but we have almost two years the public is excited they realize the potential for the cars on our outreach process to ask for input on 3 factors most importantly the comparison configuration got own 9 thousand responses we met looker-on the design we'll have that done by

the end of the year some of the key systems integration issues we'll work through them and we want to move forward and make sure we stay on schedule to have the first car coming in december of 2016 and really in terms of transformation was it maples not just new, new is sometimes not better in this case it's spectacularly better standpoint we even though up the procurement we looked at with 2 hundred and 60 cars long term contract and great communications from the signage to the announcement standpoint by most importantly from a performance level you see the current l l r v what the proposed siemens they're a whole new generations and whole new way of doing business and great

maintenance practice and great savings for the maintenance and reduced the time of details and maintenance because of the location of the components and the modules vs. the old ones we're excited we feel that we'll really help us meet the needs of the future and really begin the process to make us what we believe will be the premier of the light rail system in the u.s. with that, i thank yourself time and happy to answer questions. >> great. thank you very much so you know we clearly have a path in terms of the new vehicles that are arriving i know that the agency is doing more and more to try to keep those vehicles in shape and keep

a higher percentage of them in operation to increase our reliability and again, we have seen results sometimes the result are up and down i know earlier in the year there was accident and now more vehicles s are coming in so i guess the question is how this all sounds good but how can we avoid slipping obviously only so much control over accidents you train the operators to drive correctly but with the best driving there's going to be accidents and mechanic problems and given the small margin of error then we have with the l l r vs how can you maximize the chances of

not slipping back again and also in the context of growing ridership like bart and caltrain and b c a is growing it's ridership our population is growing where people want to ride transit so in two or three years from now more people trying to get on the trains than now and before the siemens arrive you can't expand the vehicles how should we be thinking about that. >> a couple of things on the vehicle side how to keep the car count up and reliability we focus on first of all, on the reliability side euphoric number one you don't look at our maintenance prevented active maintenance it is mileage based and the number of miles going up

as ridership goimz goes up there will be expected to be more service in the next couple of years it's important that the inspections be done on time and correctly and thoroughly so it gets really to good supervision or first level supervision that the investments we make and the benefits on over halls are driven at the components such doors and computation that are failing the most where the trucks where the brake we need to focus those forevers the schedules are very important we need to do more work on the schedules because we're do have to schedule to what we have in the capacity and having a full compliment of operators who are

putting service on the streets give us more flexibility in that regard but the scheduling and the detailed recovery strategy, if you will, it becomes very important and better supervision financially i'll say the other thing we're looking at and have the pilot going on which is critical to follow the city processes sometime and the acquisition of parts can be a long process especially, when you have vehicles like ours where many of the parts are no longer made and have to be mustards or purchased from say a supplier that's not close to san francisco we've undertake a pilot program for better planning and focus our inventory that helps those kinds of things but most importantly from our

standpoint the management and the supervision and the instant attention to keeping the service out there and making sure that we do our inspections and organ our workforce so we get work done in an efficient manner. >> okay. i guess another question is when the first wave of siemens l l vs arrive in 2016 i believe and 2016. >> 24 or 28. >> 24 starting in december 2016 to 2018 and the t line the central subway in 2018. >> 2019. >> so those vehicles will be dedicated to the central subway or - >> no, we don't do that with

our real cars we operate the system because all of the lines go through the subway they'll be by the times, if you will, there's be substantial mileage so on any line in the system. >> at one point we were told the first wave would be the central subway but that's not the case as you no, it isn't the central subway will pay for a small autumn but not speculated to the subway. >> so once the central subway opens the t lines like the other lines will be siemens. >> yes. >> will they be able to link

together or vehicles that are multiple car. >> they can mechanically couple so as opposed to training lining if it's a two car train you'll see the power systems and lighting through the two cars siemens will not be able to do that but if say awe probate were to break down and siemens were coming up they have the ability to come up to tow or push so in that sense you'll not see a mixed fleet. >> so in 2015 we see the first one that are roll call into service. >> yes. early 2017 and we'll have 3 cars on the property so theoretically a 3 car train.

>> okay supervisor kim any questions. >> okay. thank you very much, sir. >> any public comment on item 4 seeing none, public comment is closed okay. so sir, thank you and to the agency i know this is challenging aspect of the system but incredibly important and do everything we can to maximum misses the vehicles until the cars arrive with that, could we then continue or actually why not a motion to file item 4 we'll take that without objection. we'll file item 4 madam clerk call item 5. >> item 57 an ordinance mit the planning code and this is supported by supervisor chiu i'd like to add

my name a co-sponsor to item 5 and aaron starr from the planning department t is here. >> thank you, supervisors aaron starr for the affairs the planning department item is before you to allow nor exemptions from the height limit for mechanic equipment on hospitals the proposed ordinance will ply to the structures with regard to height and the structures will have equipment without limitations as long as the following new equipment that can't be honoree the exposure and minimal endorse and necessary for the function of the building and no other feasible all of the elements the office stipulates that any outdated equipment must be

removed prior to installation requested by the city of san francisco their burn center in the bay area can update it's treatment facilities and comply with the state protections the department thanks supervisor chiu for taking up the sponsoring it was heard by the planning commission over october 13th and adapted by. >> unanimous vote that concludes my presentation. >> thank you mr. star any questions and okay public comment on item 5 seeing none, public comment is closed and can i have a motion to forward item 5 to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> so moved. >> we'll take that without objection. that's the order madam clerk, any other business before this committee? >> there's no further business. >> then we're adjourned thank you order.

>> i'd like to call the meeting to order welcome please join me with the pledge

and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all roll call please. >> yes. commissioner bridges and commissioner driscal my burger and pass care jordan a quorum is present. >> okay. we'll up it up for general public comment i have a few speaker cards. >> i will start with this you can't mill deny. >> good afternoon board members i'm you can't mill denny work

for laguna holding worked phenomenon the city for 20 years i've collected 3 hundred and 50 signatures of a petition from workers from laguna hydroand sf general they can't be here they are serving the patient and the message is we the city workers do not want to invest our pension in hedge funds whoever make that proposal needs to go and represent another institution because they does not represent our interests thank you. >> i have 3 hundred and 50. >> okay glen followed by fin

is glen here? welco welcome. >> thank you, commissioners thank you, president i'm glen van lane a chapter president of the i cu for the chapter it's been four months since president is an letter of concern to the board in july we have no response i don't not understand why this has on a hang up for your folks under specific concerns of the letter is a basic concern for an open process that continues through the decades to maintain our fiduciary duties and the maintenance of our funds idea that we will take up to 0 third of the funds andes could

not it into non-transparent and liquid investments that don't comprises an allocation as we've heard the term defined seems like a slap in the face after all this time i'll say that again, thank you. >> thank you welcome sid how are you. >> i'm the president an active member i want to say a last month's meeting was the first fiat h mite e meeting i attended i was disconcerted by the proceeding i think after all the members that especially the retirees that spoke against the

hedge fund not one positive comment from the folks that are pushing for the investment and i also didn't here responsive to what the members are concerned about after all the retirement fund a our fund but fund for the members that retire you are as a board compared charged what administering that and it is disconcerting that the board is not responsive inform what the members are saying you know we didn't hear any of the folks that who are you're going investments i didn't see rational from the board members to tells us the board members who are here and concerned why you believe building it is a good move to invest in the hedge fund and then to put it off for three or four months and a special meeting to talk about

this and we weren't informed and all of a sudden after all the e-mails it was cancelled and so to us i'm a new i haven't attend the board meeting but it spoke of a non-transparent process we come take the time to come and speak and yet seeing the behind the scenes manipulation of votes your crafting a negative image for the members who fund you're charged with administering a message vision for the members of this redevelopment board and you as commissioners of this board and that's very unfortunate thank you for your time. >> (calling names).

>> yes. >> oh, declined i'm sorry, i didn't kate? >> my name is kay walker a retired social working i'm a member of s c i u since 72 and an person as an officer i want to i'd like to follow-up on something that was said it is actually in terms of the city chapter there recent something called a prekraurgs principle it is really the city charters are constitution it talk about a policy or action has a suspected risk of causing harm to the public or to the environment in the absence of scientific consensus that is action or

policy is not harmful the burden of proof falls on those taking on action she said she didn't hear why those funds are good for us in terms of the principle in the city and county chapter that is our responsibility i know that the city and county doesn't follow its rules but as a member of the system i'm sxhiftd i do this and also in terms of investments i was online a lot after reading that warren buffet thought it wasn't a good idea and after the reading the article cal which is like another public agency which is a huge