>> what do other commissioners think i have heart burn on this way one. >> commissioner antonini. >> i think the issue of the number of floors is not coincidental because what matters is the height tests been represented this the 34 point one inches is that the correct type of that structure and does that include it's a stair penthouse on the top is it true. >> yeah. it appears the building measures 34 feet on the mropt. >> that includes the structure on the top. >> the stair penthouse is above that. >> awning you would be close to the 40 foot limit. >> yeah. the stair penthouse is

exempt. >> is there a roof-deck or what's the purpose. >> there is a roof-deck it's a set back. >> that would be a possible change i might entertain the idea of building two large structures there are a lot of people with two or three children and having three or four bedrooms or 4 bedrooms i think that bedroom and 3 and a half bath is fills a lot of needs it would be the same as. >> single-family home but you've got two of them that moinz makes up he i'm not you need that additional deck open the very top it might please turn off all electronic devices. please the neighborhoods but stavpd out in the neighborhood fib you kept it to 34 feet and it's zoned for 34 feet it might

be a better project it's sdoentd rh2 as presented i think the sale price was $1.5 million or $1.35 million it is not two year 0 away from mother considered affordable. >> 1.56 so something like that it's anyway not going to accepting sell for less so it's approaching what we not deemed affordable housing by mia any stretch of the imagination i'll be supportive of the project but i would be without the deck and the stair penthouse on the top commissioner moore. >> i'd like to take a slithering different take because i this my responsibility

it to look at the project that are comparable with the neighborhood we are in rh2 zoning we've not ask do architect and owner as to whether they have considered adding to the existing building and dealing indeed with the neighborhood grain and altitude with an look at how the building vocabulary which is in keeping with the neighborhood mr. alumni will i answer that have i looked at an expansion to meet the families needs and no in order to build the two unit and sit within not having to demolish the knowledge it is impossible but the time it is set to expand in the front on the side and bank and above it will be a de facto demo.

>> i appreciate that the next step if by the move forward to replace it that building is indeed more in keeping with the overall situation of the neighborhood this building looks like too much like many of the speculative look alike building we paragraph it in a less sensitive neighborhood i believe that woody allen is where i want to downsize this building one is slithering larger and more sensitive to 3 stories rather than 4 stories to massing that is underway very extensively a building to its max the buildings are older in massing

that are indeed remnant of two forms sent of whatever the matter it this building is it is what it is it t so if we're entertaining to approving two units i'll ask the architect takes a different approach with some guidance to perhaps a unit mix of a slightly larger family unit and one which is marginal that deals with more variety in massing and site and overall massing expressions completely eliminating 9 idea of thinking about urging the roof of the fourth floor to come up with some that is indeed for compatible with a small-scale neighborhood that's my idea for sending this project back and asking it to be spent more time

on the neighborhood concerns that were well expressed and sensitive but this building is not approval without taxiing dr i courage the architect this this commission is open to the two unit building in an each other unit neighborhood but be more creative. >> commissioner richards. >> the question how the process will work in designing the building. >> you take dr and you could certainly take dr and direct staff to work with the architect or you could provide the architect with the recommendations and disconnections you provided and continue the matter and have it turned. >> i think that's a good idea i'll make a motion to do that take dr and to continue it with

the direction. >> continue the matter until it comes back. >> take dr. >> not to take dr but to continue it. >> work with some of the challenges that was expressed by the other commissions and two commissioners could meet and be perpetrate with staff starts to have communications that's happened before. >> do i hear a second. >> i second it. >> thank you commissioner johnson and. >> support a continues i like the idea from going from one unit to two there's another issues i'll lay them out here quickly and the continuance this will be fast or faster so i echo many of the commissioner moore's comments

buyout relation of the current building to the streetscape and the surrounding property but i won't repeat those but i will just ask a question of the project sponsor and make one other point the first one is about the parking the counter property has no parking a think about the street parking you can park. >> i'm sorry. >> it's an easy park street. >> okay. i'll still ask my question though right now there's a no off-street parking to put the driveway as populated you need to keep away a parking stott spot did you consider a project with no parking? >> sir, you need to come up to the microphone. >> you're required to have a

parking space per unit. >> we can condition it. >> i just asked the question so okay. >> great. >> just the public hearing closed i'm not sure. >> we're in the midst of commissioner comments. >> we've not closed the public hearing and the public hamburger period is closed. >> you're answering because unifying your representing the project sponsor. >> okay, i will just is this is a my one question misunderstood and my one i definitely like going from one unit to two i have no particular anonymity towards two or three it would be nice to say units in the mix of the units that are there when

you look at the design of the building and have it better respond to the neighborhood the unit size will not necessarily restrictism i have no comments on the current design i think the unit size will be more responsive to the neighborhood so thank you. >> commissioner hillis. >> so, i mean i can support a continuance we need direction we're hearing things from the neighborhoods my kids go to ma kindle some people want to keep the building as is i'll support a more dense development and walk done straight street it's

very dark there are single-family homes but directly across the street the rear building and on to straight street there are more 1930s bulky buildings i'll categories this as architecture not small cottages this doesn't realize to the extraordinary circumstances i can see the impact somewhat smaller building adjacent to it it seems like the massing works better with the building on the audio again we've seen this before and depraved them if you want to continue i know the goal it work with some of the neighbors that are adjacent that's the impacts to the neighbors increase going to be

impacts you're going from a small single-family home to ta a large-scale it's not inconsistent with what's said i'll vote for a continuance this doesn't rise to extraordinary circumstances that's my point. >> i can also support of the continuance i think that for me especially the roof-deck seems extra i do like the idea of going to two units but more moves to toward two modest units or something else in that direction i agree with commissioner hillis we have approved projects kind of like this on google mass it looks at like on state street i think there can be more designed

refinement. >> councilmember sharp. >> yeah. i'll express my interest in perhaps of removing the deck on the top and the stair we'll drop it down to 34 feet fits in better with the height of the structures there are a number of floors incessant incessantly so long as their is light and air where the buildings can be brought in slithering i know you've matched the light wells to be respectful but whatever you can minimize the impacts with the neighbors that's fine the larger square footage doesn't bother me tests okay. it have larger bedrooms and baths it's if it's a little bit a larger than the square foot

square footage but to try to work with the neighbors and with staff to try to make the facade soft fit in with the traditionally homes along the street and give it the feeling of a sort of a rustic sort of street those are the things i want to see. >> sxhefks. >> i think translating with commissioner president wu said was modest medians shorter and smaller those are like track homes in tracey they don't belong in our neighborhood there so monstrous on steerldz i live in the neighborhood they're two big you can do it, it's a code compliant it's 756 i've been

here 8 hours. >> commissioner moore. >> the only comment the same factor of oversized buildings in a neighborhood where they don't belong and no one can spend speculative development of we only build for ourselves and time to build speculative the offer riding exception i want this commission to community and still expect people to build in context that's understanding the scale, etc., etc. that's really important so this is i think the message i want to leave the architect and hope he can come back with the holidays i don't

want to say vegetation but creative serious challenges so we can be proud of what you're delivering and commissioner a motion and second not a date. >> i would look towards. >> and would think it takes 8 weeks. >> i know i'd like to have input from the project sponsor to see how long a revision like this about approximately take please. >> it looks like there's a possibility of january a 8 are the 15 or anywhere out from there. >> that's correct. >> okay. >> does the department have enough time we're a week from thanksgiving four more weeks. >> compared to what we've

continued. >> a complete redesign. >> i'm getting a sense the commission is kind of sorry. >> it's between you and the architect if the architect feels tests not coming together you can communicate with each other and we'll schedule the date. >> i was go back to say we can continue it to the 8th and if staff doesn't feel it's ready continue it out further. >> commissioners there's a motion and second to continue to january 8th commissioner antonini commissioner hillis sxhobs commissioner moore commissioner richards commissioner fong commissioner president wu so moved, commissioners, that passes 7 to zero and place ion general public comment i have no

speaker cards. >> any general public comment seeing none, general public comment is closed. - >> i just want to say thank you all of you good evening. >> any additional general public comment seeing none, general public comment is closed. meeting

>> what if you could make a memorial that is more about information and you are never fixed and it can go wherever it wants to go? everyone who has donated to it could use it, host it, share it. >> for quite a great deal of team she was hired in 2005, she struggled with finding the correct and appropriate visual expression. >> it was a bench at one point. it was a darkened room at another point. but the theme always was a theme of how do we call people's attention to the issue of speci species extinction. >> many exhibits do make long detailed explanations about species decline and biology of birds and that is very useful for lots of purposes. but i think it is also important to try to pull at the strings inside people. >> missing is not just about

specific extinct or endangered species. it is about absence and a more fundamental level of not knowing what we are losing and we need to link species loss to habitat loss and really focuses much on the habitat. >> of course the overall mission of the academy has to do with two really fundamental and important questions. one of which is the nature of life. how did we get here? the second is the challenge of sustainability. if we are here how are we going to find a way to stay? these questions resonated very strongly with maya. >> on average a species disappears every 20 minutes. this is the only media work that i have done. i might never do another one because i'm not a media artist per se but i have used the

medium because it seemed to be the one that could allow me to convey the sounds and images here. memorials to me are different from artworks. they are artistic, but memorials have a function. >> it is a beautiful scupltural objective made with bronze and lined with red wood from water tanks in clear lake. that is the scupltural form that gives expression to maya's project. if you think about a cone or a bull horn, they are used to get the attention of the crowd, often to communicate an important message. this project has a very important message and it is about our earth and what we are losing and what we are missing and what we don't even know is gone. >> so, what is missing is starting with an idea of loss,

but in a funny way the shape of this cone is, whether you want to call it like the r.c.a. victor dog, it is listen to the earth and what if we could create a portal that could look at the past, the present and the future? >> you can change what is then missing by changing the software, by changing what is projected and missing. so, missing isn't a static installation. it is an installation that is going to grow and change over time. and she has worked to bring all of this information together from laboratory after laboratory including, fortunately, our great fwroup of researche e-- g researchers at the california academy. >> this couldn't have been more site specific to this place and we think just visually in terms of its scupltural form it really holds its own against the architectural largest and grandeur of the building. it is an unusual compelling

object. we think it will draw people out on the terrace, they will see the big cone and say what is that. then as they approach the cone tell hear these very unusual sounds that were obtained from the cornell orinthology lab. >> we have the largest recording of birds, mammals, frogs and insects and a huge library of videos. so this is an absolutely perfect opportunity for us to team up with a world renown, very creative inspirational artist and put the sounds and sights of the animals that we study into a brand-new context, a context that really allows people to appreciate an esthetic way of the idea that we might live in the world without these sounds or sites. >> in the scientific realm it is shifting baselines. we get used to less and less,

diminished expectations of what it was. >> when i came along lobsters six feet long and oysters 12 inches within they days all the oyster beds in new york, manhattan, the harbor would clean the water. so, just getting people to wake up to what was just literally there 200 years ago, 150 years ago. you see the object and say what is that. you come out and hear these intriguing sounds, sounds like i have never heard in my life. and then you step closer and you almost have a very intimate experience. >> we could link to different institutions around the globe, maybe one per continent, maybe two or three in this country, then once they are all networked, they begin to communicate with one another and share information. in 2010 the website will launch, but it will be what you would call an informational website and then we are going to try to,

by 2011, invite people to add a memory. so in a funny way the member rely grows and there is something organic about how this memorial begins to have legs so to speak. so we don't know quite where it will go but i promise to keep on it 10 years. my goal is to raise awareness and then either protect forests from being cut down or reforest in ways that promote biodiversity. >> biodiverse city often argued to be important for the world's human populations because all of the medicinal plants and uses that we can put to it and fiber that it gives us and food that it gives us. while these are vital and important and worth literally hundreds of billions of dollars, the part that we also have to be able to communicate is the more spiritual sense of how important it is that we get to live side by side with all of these forms

that have three billion years of history behind them and how tragic it would be not commercially and not in a utilitarian way but an emotio l emotional, psychological, spiritual way if we watch them one by one disappear. >> this is sort of a merger between art and science and advocacy in a funny way getting people to wake unand realize what is going on -- wake up and realize what is going on. so it is a memborial trying to get us to interpret history and look to the past. they have always been about lacking at the past so we proceed forward and maybe don't commit the same mistakes.

we are celebrating the glorious grand opening of the chinese rec center. ♪ 1951, 60 years ago, our first kids began to play in the chinese wrecks center -- rec center. >> i was 10 years old at the time. i spent just about my whole life here. >> i came here to learn dancing. by we came -- >> we had a good time. made a lot of friends here. crisises part of the 2008 clean neighborhood park fund, and this is so important to our families. for many people who live in chinatown, this is their backyard. this is where many people come to congregate, and we are so

happy to be able to deliver this project on time and under budget. >> a reason we all agreed to name this memorex center is because it is part of the history of i hear -- to name this rec center, is because it is part of the history of san francisco. >> they took off from logan airport, and the call of duty was to alert american airlines that her plane was hijacked, and she stayed on the phone prior to the crash into the no. 9 world trade center. >> i would like to claim today the center and the naming of it. [applause] >> kmer i actually challenged me

to a little bit of a ping pong -- the mayor actually challenge me to a little bit of a ping- pong, so i accept your challenge. ♪ >> it is an amazing spot. it is a state of the art center. >> is beautiful. quarkrights i would like to come here and join them