bigger discussion of revamping the ammiano study done several years ago so it's up-to-date so we can start talking about city wide broadband for everybody in the community through partly fiber and other methods, and i know you've heard this before. i think the next step now for the commission is that i would strongly urge you commissioners to go online and look up in chattanooga tennessee, the gig. that's the first city wide major public brand ban network for the citizen reef the community. it gives us the picture of where we need to goally. >> >> and this report doesn't encompass but but it's the launch point to get there right away so i urge you to look up the gig in chattanooga and check it out what is possible because it's an amazing situation where

they're getting enough revenue from the system that it's not really costing a lot to taxpayers or ratepayers. this is a program that's cheaper than what we already pay for over a gig wat of connection speed so please read that before jason gives the final report so we're ready to go on the next step of getting community public brand ban to the -- broad ban to the entirety of san francisco. this is the same as eisenhower's highway system. it's the public internet system, instead of private internet system so please be check it out. thanks. >> okay. i look forward to that. any other member of the public to comment? okay. we will close public. [gavel] and go to the next item. >> chair avalos can i thank gene cleanon and one of the activists in the district that have been urging us to take on

the issue and i wanted to thank them and the other residents for bringing this to us. thank you. >> thank you. madam clerk. >> item 6 executive officer's report. >> would you also like to call future agenda items with this because my report will meld into that. >> okay. let's call item 7 as well. >> item 8 is future agenda items. >> thank you. first all i wanted to start off by saying in january there will be the chair and vice chair will be up for reelection again so keep that in mind as we move to the january meeting that the elections are coming as we always traditionally do in the first meeting of the year have the elections for chair and vice chair for the 2015 year. >> just a question. >> yeah. >> can chairs -- do they have to be members -- any commissioner could be a chair? >> any commissioner could be a chair. the alternate cannot be chair. although i would have to

talk with legal counsel, with supervisor mar not having anyone in the regular seat he fills in as a alternate seat member until that is filled in but the alternates from my understanding shouldn't be elected as chair or vice chair but any of the other seats can be chair or vice chair. >> so in the meantime we will poll the commission to see what desires people have to be alternates or not. i think it's important to rotate a lot of the positions so we will come back before january with a sense of that. >> all right. perfect and the other thing i wanted to mention that melds into the future agenda items since our last meeting the supervisor scott wiener has introduced legislation that made its way through the board process of asking lafco if would work on a new study to look at open source elections so that is something that the board is asking lafco to look at. i

believe it's not on our agenda today because when that process was still going through it hadn't passed the board yet when doing our agenda and that's why it's not on there but in the future we will get a request to do this new study. what my recommendation is at this point on that is instruct me to do more research. find out exactly what it is, how much time it would take and come back in january with a report to what we would do and coordinate with the other work we're doing because we have the cca which is a major part of my time and the supervisor tang's request on undergrounding that we're working on and how this potentially mixes into ti had a distinction. >> >> with supervisor wiener's staff and we might not get to it later until 2015 but if the commission decides to it could be an item looked at and discussed so that's the end of my report and potential future agenda items. >> thank you. i appreciate the request. i think it's

something work looking at. in fact we have been with the same system almost a decade i believe and there has been discussion over the years about going to an open source system. mr. bradon turner has been a lot to urge us to look at this system and i appreciate that and i know commissioner mar as well. commissioner mar. >> yeah, i was just going to make the motion that we conduct that study at the urging of the full board of supervisors and i wanted to thank supervisor wiener and i was a co-author with supervisor kim and we supported this so my hope is we move it forwardar a open and transparent voting system in the city and thank the work by the task force and many of the activists in the community that urged us to look at open source and other alternatives to what some call a monopoly system by the dominant voting systems. >> so we have a motion on the

floor and have public comment too. >> >> and commissioner crews wants to add something. >> i just wanted to thank supervisor -- i'm sorry commissioner mar for bringing this forward as an item for lafco to look at. i would just make one suggestion in terms of timing to mr. fried is that as we think about 2015 and your involvement with the department of elections and perhaps we will want to do a pause on the undergrounding report if necessary just to engage department of elections as it pertains to the open source voting job. do you have any thoughts on that? >> yeah, i actually thought about that and i agree with you there is a need to work with the

department of elections. i was watching the hearings in the board process and closer to november they have an election and their time is spent on that. i will figure out to get the information from them earlier in the year but hold off doing the work and the writing and the stuff that takes more time to put together the report until after we finish the undergrounding so that is the first request that we got and i have been thinking how to engage with them and they have their schedule and important things to do and getting that out of them and getting the information. sticking it in a file for a while and then finishing undergrounding coming back and finishing up this report after that is done. that's my current thought but i need to talk to more people and see how realistic that is. >> that's great. i also want to say i am really happy to see supervisors wiener and tang engage lafco. while we are certain focused on cleanpowersf

i think the value of lafco and the work that you do mr. fried as staff is incredible to see and to see san francisco really utilize lafco in the way it can be as an agency. thanks. >> and i would tend to agree with making sure that we have the proper prioritization of our projects as well. although i do see value in the projects being asked of us or of your staff. there was something i wanted to add. oh the contract with election system is i believe with secoy a i think it's important that you go forward and tell you about the urgency and the contract lasts until a certain date so we can't act on changes until that contract is over unless we null that contract so that is important to look at so we have a sense how we might want to proceed

because we could actually -- it's possible to vote to kill the contract and move forward with a new system but given that might be challenging i think it's important to know when that actual contract is finalized. >> i agree with you completely. when i was watching the hearings sounds like there are one and two year extensions that get done. the report won't create the system. here's the pathway for the city and county and work that needs to be done to create the open source system itself so i wouldn't assume that we do it's not something you get within the next few years but perhaps outside of that contract with what is left with sequoyah. >> right if our contract isn't going to expire for a couple of years the urgency isn't that great even for lafco so the focus is on clean power first and foremost. >> yeah. >> let's open this up for public comment. any member of

the public that would like to comment. >> yes bruce wolf speaking for myself. on the elections and open source software. i suggest that the city become a member of cavo and association of elect officials and do work on open source and security is correct and there is consistency across these types of softwares. i think it's important. it gives you a breath of information and substance for that. i believe it was originally contained in the original language of the legislation and then subsequently later was pulled. thank you. >> good afternoon. one more time commissioners, eric brooks local green party, our city. first i would reiterate what bruce wolf said and that should be included in the legislation

and then for on future agenda items when you do have your next joint meeting with the sf puc this is just kind of a point of information -- especially i think the supervisors might be clued in on this but the public members i want to make sure you know about it. in the scott wiener london breed legislation that cleared authorizes the puc to sell express hetch hetchy power in the city to make money and bring clean energy to the city. >> >> originally when that legislation was drafted in july it did not include making cleanpowersf a priority customer of that power, and thankfully advocates approached supervisor wiener's aid and they graciously

included an amendment that makes it clear that yes cleanpowersf is in the queue by that power and that is very important. even if cleanpowersf buys that power at full retail rate there are benefits from that because it helps -- we were discussing the wind power, solar power doesn't happen to be working and you have hydro power there as well in the mix and balances the resources out and help lower load curves on peak load and save money on the whole system as a whole so i want to tip you off that is what is in what passed on tuesday and that's important. thanks. >> thank you. any other member ever the public to comment? seeing no member come forward we will close public comment and we can go on to the next item. >> you have a motion on the floor i believe. >> i'm sorry. we have a motion on the floor. can we take that colleagues without

objection? okay. very good. do you want to restate the motion so we're clear about it? >> just that we follow the board of supervisors' urging to do the study on open and transparent voaght system in san francisco. >> great. and that was seconded by commissioner campos and take that colleagues without objection. and our next item please. >> item number 7 public. >> public is open for any item related to lafco and seeing no one come forward we will close public comment and before we adjourn i want to thank sfgtv staff for the work broadcasting. madam clerk our next item. >> item 9 adjournment. >> colleagues we are adjourned. have a great weekend. take care. bye.

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