not the expanded deck at roofline is out into the planted part permit holders were not transparent and after step of the way we tried to tell them we were concerned about their permits were exceeding scope and we very repoint out they've never fully disclosed the work and if the permit holders tried to understand their terms of variance they would have seen it violates the permit we want a new permit issued when the plans conform with the code thank you. >> mr. cripple. >> how does that firewall

effect our view. >> the one on the opposite side. >> from the other property line and well, they showed us the wall between our property actually, it's not a firewall and required by 3 owners they built that wall at that height but to answer our question we sat on the deck we see out over the cut out part of the wall and see their wall instead of green trees up on our master bedroom we say a tiny view of the bay a view the bay a green and giant wall if it is up to code we're entirely okay with that. >> we can hear from the permit

holder now. >> thank you frank again hopefully, the record is now clear from mr. perez comments there never was a separate deck small deck as they entire certainly when we purchased the property the 3 r report from the building inspection indicated the patterson edition was properly built we had inform reason to think audits what we are repairing and rebuilding was approved if 23407 as the patterson son addition as we know that now the she - mrs. cripple said

this small deck was demolished it has not been demolished we tried to point out part of the decking was removed from the die rot. >> and that exists and it is the shape and size it was in the drawing and please a perry showed it before the cripples bought their property nothing has changed and i don't see how it can be considered a variance issue if it was never built that way it was in the plans it if exist before the plans and not built no longer or in accordance with the plans the balcony was

never there i guess a couple of other comments they argue our proposed work is not fully permitted that was approved by the building inspection and the planning department also certainly the dbi inspectors will assure that both to us and he cripples the work is in compliance with the building code a comment they made previously now there never was an existing stairway to the ground never anything we panned pa planned to do i'm not sure where that came from yes, we were issued an n o

v and in behind site clearly the work was getting ahead was it was dry rot investigation was getting ahead of what was expressing said in the permit but it was being addressed thank you and we request the appeal be denied and the permit upheld. >> mr. duffy anything further. >> commissioners joe duffey dbi again i don't have too much to add one thing if this hadn't been appealed and we dealt with the complaints from the lady we in all likelihood this permit

would have been suspended we would have said hey your plans are not showing you properly what our doing i which is looking at the plans there's no existing sections to show where the angle window is not scared off this triggers something i imagine that is something even though it's small they'd consider is additional square feet so i think we'd stop them and say hey, get a proper set of plans and employ for your permit you have to go drove the process that would be fair to say looking at that is how we would probably deal with that we can do that good work of mr. larkin on those types of cases the

stair a way, way confusing it was a violation, however, the plans don't should a stairway there was stairway that was fine but it was on a notice of violation i noticed that i was confused a little bit about that. >> good evening corey t for planning a couple of quick notes and we didn't point out this out before but prior to the under oath variance an existing shallower deck but widower the proposal in the variance was to demolish it deck through the ground floor but no deck on the south side with the conditions the variance the plans were approved with about consistent

with the plans with the variance you can't simply choose after the variance not to demolish a portion of the 0 structure that was non-conforming and be it that by itself will trigger a new variance that will not be consistent or approved by the variance even though they didn't build the small balcony it was - the other thing i want to be clear that our position on o this project is in 0 no way a judgment on the current owners everything with the prior owner it appears that you know whatever work that was done or not done in violation of the

variance and the issued building permits before they bought the prompt and the work that was done was not done well, the issue of them going progressively from a repair to 0 proorment situation probably was a dry rot situation that wouldn't go away unfortunately you know bans the facts we have the project will require a new permit and variance i'm available for that other questions. >> what action will you take then. >> well, what we recommend here is the current permit is not adequate the permit that is before you should be denied and they need to file a new variance and permit the exact scope of

the variance depended on what the project sponsor wants to move forward it if they want to do a project to the scope of what is proposed on the permit they need to file a new variance request and have a new permit. >> they're not pressured on timing come back with another permit. >> if the board denies it. >> no, it will be changed. >> or they have a choice of conforming to the original variance which is entirely cyst situation but requires a new permit. >> right either way at this point, because of the repair project has essentially gone to a basement project of they build back what was the same variance they trigger the variance by replacing it technically it is

required. >> the variance and new permit application in my opinion. >> i think see. >> i believe the building inspection believes that also. >> so okay commissioners the matter is submitted. >> action and motion i think it's clear. >> unfortunately, the permit holders argument that so it was signed off but signed off based on the documents it didn't conform to the variance give him a change of scope that is allowed the condo map substantially does not necessarily provide any further entitlement beyond what is the fact it was filed for that the

representation itself so i think we have no choice but to revoke the permit. >> okay. you want to move. >> do i have a suggestion? commissioners, i would agree but is there a plan for the new permit and we'll add to it he needs to be able to close that off if in some manner >> yes. >> the one year bar in the status didn't prohibit someone from getting a new permits the reason for the permit is to correct. >> that would not bar them from being able to apply within the one year. >> what about protecting them against the manual storm coming tonight. >> it probably we work closely

with the board of appeals certainly with the cynthia 2k3w08d at the scene if someone needs to bmi up their knowledge we allow them to temporarily waterproof it. >> i want to make it clear can i unusually it's a day or two to close it up. >> but it needs to be in conjunction with our office. >> we need to meet with the contractor and clearly state what that entiles not finishing the project. >> misunderstood. >> so is that a motion commissioners and is the basis that the existing 0 permit doesn't conform. >> mr. pacheco call the roll

please. the motion from commissioner fung to deny this permit with the finding that this permit didn't conform to the existing variance. >> that's right. >> on that motion to deny this permit commissioner president lazarus commissioner honda is absent commissioner wilson thank you vote 3 to zero given the boards vacancy this permit a rerecognized with that finding there's no more business commissioner president lazarus. >> we're adjourn

>> good evening everyone with we readies to light a tree. >> yeah. >> that wasn't loud enough. >> are we ready to light a tree. >> good work everyone and welcome to holistic golden gate park i'm filling beginning beggar the manager of our park department and thank you to the performance tonight and others so tonight is our 85th annual holiday tree latin-american truly one of our signature events in the city's history alongside in the back is our

esteemed president mark u he will give me a round of applause (clapping.) tonight behind me is a group of park lovers i'm going to introduce so first i want to introduce the rest of our commission flowering and megan and maggie and eric mcdonald and others (clapping.) and you're going 0 hear from him he's going to help us light the tree are our parks chief mayor ed lee (clapping) also behind me who's been here several years in a row our spribl e incredible district

attorney george moscone our assessor carman chu is here supervisor mark farrell and it's entire family are up here (clapping.) we have john from our moscone and from the mayor's office of disabilities is here you're going to hear from them but we have our incredible sponsor keeping up and iga gay from kaiser and other person is from the other company here let's talk about the tree this tree behind us 85 years ago you don't

think mclaren who was our one of our key fourpd in golden gate park our park superintendent started a tradition of lighting this tree and mile-long of trees that end here in mclaren lodge this is san francisco's official holiday tree and the cypress are over one hundred and thirty years old and despite losing some of its limitations it's standing at all and supporting over 5 hundred and 50 lights let's give a big round of applause for uncle john's tree (clapping.) so this is the night that offers up the time to get together one of the most important aspects of parks it's sense of place; right? an opportunity to get

together to create community and think about our tasks and to see our past, present, and future and people that are going to help us light the trees and brought kids this is something of san francisco's fabric and we remember it's pretty amazing this holiday season offers the opportunity to reflect american people things we are they've for i'm thankful to work with our amazing staff everyday and help to manage our 2 hundred and 20 parks around the city and most porcelain importantly on behalf of the rec and park department we are thankful for caring about our parks and enjoying them and supporting what really is the best park system in the united states of america.

(clapping.) >> so, of course, now and then none of this would be possible without the rec and park department i want to shout out to our superintendent of recreation a gentleman i call p t barn newspaper that's bob (clapping) i also want to congratulate linda and all of bobs managers and our entire recreation staff our treetopers and our story maybe sad maybe not this tree has been around inform a long lesson time and those of you over time know it's lost some of the lower limbs in big storms throughout the decades well thankfully and even though mayor likes to talk about rain as a

sign of prosperity thankfully we have a big storm but we lost one the big tree limb and our tree toppers predict 4 this will be around for decades and decades a shout out to our tree toppers. >> yeah. >> i also want to thank our partners and special maintenance staff and frankly everyone that works other mclaren leveraging looming and the respect respect i will say to you rec and park department it is the hardest group of city employees around give them a shout out all right. i now want to introduce to you our mayor who recall him mayor but at mclaren lodge he's the

park champion he loves foist and loves to play a big hundred to mayor ed lee (clapping.) >> thank you phil happy holidays everyone well, what you deserve is a very short speech so we're going to give you that because those kids want to play i walked by in the snow this is outside play for kids i want to say a hearty thank you to phil beginning berries and the staff that deserves that but mostly i'm thankful for the people of san francisco those times of trying for families but all the others are getting prosperous and prosperity what we need to do that is share that in the

city of san francisco and especially a recognition of many more families that may not be able to receive all the things they need you want to ask you to reach into our hearts and make sure you help others this season of giving tonight our police officers and first year are here to collect toys for families in need help them do so in their dream effort to collect toys for the needy i know you'll join me in not only a welcome way to thank our partners we have great announcements this year when companies like google decided to help us put wifi in our urban parks now you've got zinc can and kaiser hermosa beach us throughout the year we're going to find more

partners to make sure our parks are remaining for all of the people and families to use this is an incredible city a wonderful city it is a 3 times world series champion city that's what we get to represent (clapping.) i'm proud we worked together but mostly proud of people that live lessor day to day great partners when we brag about the city i visit other places i'll talk about the people that are here essence of innovation in our city thank you very much and happy holidays (clapping) thank you, mr. mayor we have a couple of other speakers i want to first introduce randy through did public affairs if kaiser

permanente at the rec and park we share with our tag like we're not - we like to say our mission is really to help families thrive we're grateful for kaiser to port this, please welcome randy up to the podium. >> thank you phil i'll keep to short i wanted to say happy holidays we're thrilled to be here to celebrate the tree lighting and we're fortunate to have the best urban rec and park department in the country there are 2 hundred and 20 neighborhood parks in san francisco that's a lot of opportunities to get out and thrive so we love the rec and park department and happy to be here and courage you all to get out and get active and healthy and winner you all a happy and

healthy holiday season thank you very much (clapping.) thank you randy. >> our other tag like from the rec and park department we like to say get out and play you said it and so our next partner that helps us is ken weber if monk knows play as you sit here now can welcome ken. >> (clapping.) good evening, everyone what an honor to be up here with with mayor ed lee and phillip and you'll i all those people that work hard to make san francisco whether we love playing on a cell phone or tablet that's why we're proud of our partnering rec and park department with the san francisco parks alliance

on behalf of as you sit here now gases more than one thousand based employees we want to wish a safe and happy and hopefully happily lit holiday season. >> one piece of business left what is that. >> the lighting of the tree. >> we're going to light the tree. >> actually, my wife is boggs me around (laughter) before you before we do one thank you to two other organizations here tonight the ferries is the san francisco parks alliances two folks are here thank you to them (clapping) and also who i saw in the crowd representing the hard working who take care of our works vince

from the local. >> (clapping) we're now going to light the tree our swiss is in the back there so there's a switch that is going to light the tree and the mayor is going to pill the switch and joining him a syosset who is here i asked them to come up i met yvette before the ceremony stated she's with her own parents talking about this is a generational connection she's been here since 1969

come on up and join the mayor on the sign. >> yeah. i think the switch came from candle stick park we want to make sure it works mr. mayor 3 may not be the best example. >> here's our switch and she's here with her daughter and husband mark all right. and also lilly come on up and i like to ask the kids co-to come up and surround the mayor in pulling the switch kids to the high voltage zone and special shout out to literally will i her joe is an employee he lights it everyday so let's give

a special shout out to joe landlord/tenant so will you all count down from 5 5 example 4, 3, 2, 1. >> yeah. happy holidays everybody may there be lots of love in our holiday season and get out and play and enjoy our paradoxes thank you very muchyour paradox thank you very muchparadoxes thank you very muchaparadoxes thank you very murparadoxes thank you very muchparkparadoxe musparadoxes thank you very muchparksradoxes thank you very mu thank you very muchdoxes thank you very muthank you very much