>> if that happens inadvertently we're like oh, they didn't it up to give their side at the task force again, i think we're mostly under we're concerned with the small percentage it's not clear that the people knew you know they had the obligation to respond to particular allegations. >> was if we modified option 3 if you add fend if the reversal

letter indicates that the respondent was given notice of all of the what's it's not of action is it of action. >> a allegations. >> all the allegations that were made against he or she if the task force represent that to us we can treat it depending on which chapter with the proper difference and the respondent can say that's right but or no, that didn't happen and we'll consider. >> sure. >> i think that is fine it is did comment i was going to provide as long as we on our end have requirement that we provide that we include what notice is provided on what date to whom

and what if that's that in our referral letter that deletes all confusion. >> we started doing our administrator has a complaint history form we'll be tracking matters like this so that when we refer matters to you not for that reason but for institutional history we sometimes see the cases over and over we're determined to build a database but a history that has that kind of information that helps insure we provide proper notice notice. >> okay any other questions or comments on this issue? public comment an issue one?

>> dpooin in a i'm the custodian of records for the human services agency i have been in that capacity for the last two years i've responded on behalf of the human services agency to sunshine issues we have filled one hundred and 25 sunshine requests this year in part because it is stopping proposed shoplifter in the bayview hunters point area we're trying to build for homeless people so we get a lot of complaints and it is not also clear i know my frustration with the task forces process is it is not also clear by the complainant what their complaining about and complaints

have begun forward with little information to the human services agency they griefly failed to fill our requests but without a clear explanation as to how and certainly not who did it and that information changes findings of the testimony that goes to the task force allegations seem to change and the findings it's unclear at one point we had a quality assurance person in the department named by the sclant i tried for months to get that person off the complainant they're not the responsible party we went through hearing after hearing on it went back several times

and that person was fearful and i don't know if you know if you're not typically in front of those tvnlz tilts hard to go forward thinking you're being accused it is feeling not clear what the allegations are not clear who their against and it changes at the end and you know having spent part of my career 10 i couldn't see at the office was citizens o citizens complaints it is clear up front when the initial work what the allegations were and always a defining line of unfounded to you know exactly what happened with the complaint that's not happening here. >> thank you

any other public comment on this matter? any another comments from the commissioners? is there a motion to adapt option 3 as amended >> so moved. >> second all in favor, say i. >> i opposed? okay. that motion passes move to issue 2 and it appears for issue 2 that the task force and the staff agree that we should adapt option 3 and 4 ; is that right. >> i think the task force i don't think that they were the option 4 was added after the

draft was circulated so i think they agreed on option 3 i'm sorry, i forget let's see - >> option 4 is the one you can bring a complaint against the city department for non-violation that's the one that the task force was not able to weigh in an because the amendment they had didn't have an option. >> okay. >> so maybe we can start by having the gentlemen address option 4. >> a that's fine that is the first time with my personal immediate reaction mr. washburn can agree my only primary issue

with option 4 ufbtd the violation against the city department it does little to encourage ability i think that often; right when there's a failure for transparent it misses you need an accountable person to respond to the findings of a violation against them so i'm not sure what good a will full violation against the city department in fact i'll be clear our response to this issue two all options 1, 2, 3 were under various crooks