are you represent hotel workers are tell me supposed to live in the central valley i want to see this map and convene and looked at who's here it's all men and they're all white i'm shocked if you're going to convene men. >> thank you yourself time is up. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> the following is a splice between 2.3 molester and not revolutionary a brief return to our business analog the business can ignore the complaint or address why the service isn't working additional services to customers we often see there's

discord in our community they speak because there's discord between the community they want to live they. could ask the question will we see the years of top down planning or a progressive approach the role of government it so address a product is this an opportunity to engage the public in answering the question of our time homer wrote it and paul wrote the co-sponsor thanks and charming wrote it the round top and jfk wrote about a coconut this is a splice within the

alexander and they laid out our socially accepted district create equal opportunity to live in different areas of the city and a desirable income in all district and allowing the growth and challenging the district in items such population increase and the income equality and water consumption and energy usage and transit on roads and the people write the script in the department they can guide and develop a as opposed to planning or government thinks development should occur. >> is there any additional public comment okay seeing none public comment is closed. i'll started off with a couple

of ideas this is the kind of information that is difficult to cover in 20 minutes that's an existing piece that's an ideal time to look at san francisco what it might look like in 2050 and commend director ram for putting this group in charge and actually ms. hester we were talking about prop m u prop m the legs that were mend on the transit mobility around the building and housing i know those 3 principled are firm they're listed in this and taken into consideration who's is going to work and think in san francisco that has been talked about the 4 challenges we'll get to next session how we tackle

the board appetites bring back the challenge individually and i'm sure you have the way to tangle those and commissioner president wu. >> thank you. i want to thank mr. kelly and director ram he's been waiting and excited about the conversation i'm disappointed about the people in the audience we'll remember the day we have a transit plan and charge la on the same day and had 5 increments and 5 folks i encourage you to take this to another public forum make maybe a presentation at the city college or maybe some sort of public location where we can make this kind of presentation and they're there or in another

forum for the purposing public there's a lot of interest we've been hearing all year there was not as much confidence in the planning department it's hard we're regularity in one position but i want the department and commissioners to put the vision together i'm interested as commissioner fong said how those challenges relate to the 5 will that initiated or we wanted to do an action plan for the 4 challenges or an upcoming work plan by the 4 challenges i think we want to dig in dope what goals do we have every year on the four challenges i welcome the opportunity to come back every 6 months to update us

on the specifics of 4 challenges i have a lot of interest in there was one piece that said affordable housing in every neighborhood we're setting the right goals sfooit for housing but i know be we're challenged by growth only happening in our neighborhoods if the inclusionary is our main strategy we have only housing growth overall so what about preserving the senior hubs that's an important piece in the transit and the access and mobility section there's really great work happening in julie shop she's been doing an quietly shop and commissioners pointed about a joint hearing this is

getting into the weeds what does quit mean i'm excited we're hiring the two folks working in the community of color or both that has the skills and experience that brings justice to that work so thank you. >> commissioner antonini. >> thank you for a very good report i have a few ideas on things one of the most port important parts of the report we're not an island we calculate it in city and county of san francisco water on 3 sides trying to meet our needs in 48 squirrels is not good we have workforce projected to grow to 8

hocking hundred thousand people by 2040 so caltrain and all other agrees that bring people into the work area that's been created and growing but it isn't realistic to think you can house everyone in the 48 skwiemz the air metrological is maurlg were a separate city everyone didn't live and work in the boroughs the manhattan so we don't have the advantage but just ourselves search warrant one area without you looking at the joining county we need to persian hard in marin and san mateo couldn't have been reticent to allow which growth this their community and some decree to alameda county in the

challenges of housing i think we have to the other challenges is transit that's the other thing creating jobs and other things we need to invest no our housing our for fathers built places in their own right-of-way a small dense built out area we're fooling ourselves by thinking we can provide attractive and forecast transit and dealing with all the other interests in our streets and neighborhood we have to look at things like tunnels and subways i know those are expenditure at a time going to move people from one part of the city to another and more desirable to ride you showed in a picture buses closing the streets it is go

that is subway is built underneath t we have to partner with bart and caltrain and other transit agencies it seems like everybody gotten ton its own muni is putting a subway and bart maybe a sectional campgrounds about bart to the beach and, of course we have caltrain to the terminal it's an enter challenge of trying to serve the city can we together rather than separately than a talk about place making i think with creating public spaces that are saefshl and desirable i've seen this over accident years unfortunately, the city builds

parks and public areas and don't maintain them and also, we have to police the behavior a little bit better what parks are plaza to enjoy not an area for housing not a garbage or bar those sorts of behaviors doesn't belong we're going to have rules if we're going to make those places desirable like the plaza and you drive by there and don't want to hang around so that's the issue on that and another area i noticed you brought up the growth in the areas of the southern eastern port of the city here we have a had an to look at the buildings and housing open about family housing everybody want to that built dense and higher we have

to allow families the space on to themselves one front door you know accurate space i think those are areas where that can happen and, of course you tubed seismic that's important the sea level rise we're not sure how much and how fast it didn't hurt to be pro-active in, you know, u you know creating barriers to the water if it rides as we builds something new and to we are a question about one of the speakers talked about who is living here the alumna the builders the lumina gave us comments that's the project they said that the advanced sales were existing san francisco resident and another from the

bay area so i think it's easy to generalize and important to know who is buying the places but someone is buying them we can't control what people are going to do when they buy them it is good to have the statistics but not preclude the things people spend money on one final thing transit crossroads 16th street and geneva those are the place that bring people east and west letsd do it with with the least light rail preferring like a elevated or subway people could get from one place to another they get on and off bart trying to get to hunters point or visitacion valley because the busses are

slow or crowded so the opportunity we've veptd 16th street those are some of any thoughts i appreciate the report it is very interesting. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much for the fantastic work i'll keep my comments brief i know that specific items we're going to come back with information hopefully in the joint hearing with the sfmta but a couple of things i hope to be added generally to our thinking i agree with what commissioner president wu said i love the idea of organizing our work plan and priorities to the challenges i love to think conversant and recite them like the san francisco general plan i think that will be great one thing i noticed i didn't see

as a sort of challenge topic in the work plan is when we talk about equality there was lip service sound horrible but lip service to economic development and some mentioning of the 0 programs that are things around lufld you know other than a grocery that comes to us there are definitely ways to have certainly policies and priorities and other programs part of our work plan we're 13069 nonprofit or other service providers in the job training phase and real making sure they have space and pdr and office development but that's one example of ways we can look at the land use directly look at

the economic development i'd like to see that show up in our program activities it is a nice goal but at the end of the day it's someone's job again i mean, i'll madam chair the plug for transit we had an unfortunate event on the bart station someone committed suicide at the bart station during rush hour the way i encounter that i went to work nobody was in the office because they couldn't get there we need to think about convening to the transit different pieces and having them work together when bart shuts down we should be able to jump on a transit how

can we the next part of the services that's part of the discussion and again on family again family sized unit we talk about two and three bedrooms and above love to see something in the work plan i don't recall commissioner antonini saying something about a proud adult grew up in a tower congressman any of any neighborhoods i think we can providing provide those family services within the confides of the types of everybody else's we're already approving love to see that in the work plan and i know the work plan with the priorities is a little bit of the different track i'd like to see these come together. >> commissioner richards. >> thank you very much i think the first thought you get to

know ahead i'm impressed with the longer than planning and year increments this is a question as things come up we have are new things crop up add them next year to year plan a rolling list of other side for the next 35 years. >> yeah. i think we've tried to deposit some categories with the initiatives so we flexibility if something comes up with the things to some extent stent there will be things within the 5 year horizon we'll accomplish something. >> i know some of the concerns with the individuals that dovetail i'd like to see i'll send any information to the president commissioner fong and

do an lover overlay and do a chart see how much of that gets put into here we have a person from corporate heights showed up and asked a question and took a different approach here you have places zoned revving that are close to castro they're not loud to the build three or four the interesting thing the matthews 3 bedroom units were 35 hundred and half a mile away is 4 thousand square feet so in terms of addressing larger 24 bedroom will be a way to do that that's something another thing that struck me the santa clara county

they're creating jobs ensue people living there - working there are not living there so i use to work in mount i mop up view and for 20 years i commuted when i was there everybody commuted they're getting their tax basis from the residents that are actually living there a couple of thickness on engaging the picking up public i like the way of the neighborhood approach coming out of the octavia plan you see from the number of people attending this meeting today, we're trying to take a longshoreman vision and trying to get short time expansion so this is what is

happening we have a packed house buses 2 o'clock we have fewer people so getting the public's attendance is key i think west of twin peaks should have a role and couple of other commissioners said i think two more comments i like the monitoring and the follow-up that is incredibly important to commissioner president 134 west idea of having 6 months of a check in the the devil is in the details and lastly two things if you look at the last 35 years when was true than about planning and what is 35 years ago boy that was crazy want to make sure in the next 35 years we're not engaged in the same mental planning and we talk

about the sea level rise and it bores the heck out of me the earthquake that's also coming but it's incredible work thank you. >> commissioner moore. >> thank you i agree with many of my fellow commissioners comments particularly commissioner president wu you laid out the charter and the devil is in the timing and the details i'm in support of commissioner fong's charge to how we do things that line items in you engage and royals the work plan come forward about an important topic and we many times need to hear about policies we're discussing urgent what we do today effects

what we do in the future and the future effects today, this characters our passports we're sdrikd disconnected and looking at a project out of context and how we've dealt that enough of that type of speak i want to actually, i want to ask that you come back frequently and often and that you indeed do take on the retail discussion we feel stuck with regional discussions and regional mandate where this city jumps be afraid to do things quickly while the rest of the bay is mum about affordable housing and the responsibility of taking the burden of housing

rather than making the city only a lifestyle choice rather than a commitment we've seen the residents in the city in the last thirty or 40 or 50 years we support the projects and the consistency and exclusion in which the roll for the future rnth on what we say and thank you. i am done. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much just one quick thing i forgot about the work plans definitely agree with having a challenge around public realm improvements that i thought i saw nothing that touched that we're this candle stick all those things but the third street the thoroughfare that connects the southeast back to the rest of

the north of san francisco and noun of the projects talk about third street or talk about the other thoroughfares like caesar chavez those will be more i know there are conflict we talk about third street vs. the conversation about pdr space that's the pdr spates but there's got to be a middle ground between having nothing you know between you know third street and 16th and all the way down to like caesar chavez there's got to be a middle ground i'd like to see that show up as a project or initiative and the other thing this is funny commissioner richards comment we don't want to be in a place likes this side of the aisle years earlier that's crazy how people live it's

unrecognizable today yet the planning sort of reflect that i went real quick that one hearing we were looking at the zoning map and one like in 19 hundred a big map that had only two packages o a zone important old ladies homes the name the zone if you just you know in was how they thought of people as they angle third time put in those categories the ways they were treated and that's unrecognizable to us sometimes, we say we have to change in the future we're going to laugh at. >> commissioner hillis. >> thank you a followup on kind of i know you talked about how we looked back we did a lot of neighborhood and eastern neighborhood and market and octavia what do we do to look

back and is what's worked or not worked i went out to a neighborhood the proposed potrero hill and you know some of the people that are concerned we've already built we should have built and bumped up and the transit is not coming and the parks are mother coming how do you look at that and a formal process what is working and not working. >> i'll take a stab i think you're asking the right question in terms of what we do now. actually you're putting your finger but there's a lag time particularly in public prospective between early development and the the promise to the public transportation we're an activist communication we have a process in the eastern

and the market and islamic e octavia we collect that prioritizing the allocations that fund for those areas is growing because of the hayes development but designing and implementing the projects is something i guess that has to become more ann of a conversation the other piece you're talking about how do we stand back and see things whether their public or private are we suite the needs have they did quality we need we need to make that process for rigorous more on and accountable and transparent i don't think we've developed those formal mechdz

and it will be helpful to see what's happening in market and octavia we talk about the design in what projects have worked and sometimes, i feel we benefit from the year analysis kind of 25k9 a look back on the designed they work well, for the neighborhood and feel like you know they're more a part of the neighborhood than anothers sometimes, i that we get a lot of benefits from the feedback with the individual projects getting our input and analysis on that and just overall looking at what has worked in terms of how they've evolved and where it's a good neighborhood feel and what we want to tweak versus

octavia and market so i think that's a valuable thing >> it's right to bring this discussions here. >> okay. >> alice in wonderland was reminding me in the case of market and octavia there was an obligation i think what you're talking about what's the public discussion around those. >> right and you know i'd like to see a look at some of the areas in projects that actually, we think are good and well-designed in our neighborhood serving who's living in them as opposed to so getting specified about what is happening or in the parks that are built and which ones have worked c park is a small park but a greatest utilized park you take this parks on the waterfront they're n