meetings, we did hear at the january 5 meeting some concerns about translation of documents and translation services being provided. at all of the meetings there have been spanish translation available. since that january meeting, we have started to reach out to chinese language speaking partners to help us with translation of documents for outreach. we are working on that right now. we obviously have the news or update or statement about our withdrawing our permit application for implosion. that just happened on friday. so we are now working now that the new work week has started, we are working on

enlarging the territory beyond what is required of the permits for notification for construction start related to the demolition that we will be using. we will be translating that document as well. that will go out to the community at large so we heard that concerned and we are taking steps to respond to that. >> one more thing, bronson also alluded to the community meetings we've had to date and some regular ongoing ways people can get updates about the project in general. there are some mechanisms in place already. that people can utilize. it doesn't mean we can go beyond those things but i think people need to be aware of some things. we make regular

presentations to the [indiscernible] residents meeting on the first monday of every month. those meetings are open to others beyond [indiscernible] so sometimes other residents, and the community is invited to those meetings as well. we also make regular presentations to the shipyard [indiscernible] both to the various subcommittees but in this regard and this context, the second monday of every month at 6 pm at oakdale. >> thank you. >> i have a couple more questions. first of all, thank you very good to hear that you

are listening to the community but it sounds like some of the feedback and public comment, it seems like there is still a few things that need to be done to improve the communication. there was a comment about language appropriate access, translations which you referred to and recalling the attendance of the community in this commission meeting, there was someone who said the highest number of residents in this area [indiscernible] communities so i was wondering aside from the online indications of scheduling of your community outreach, how else are you putting this out? do you do mailings? phone calls to the community? to make sure representatives of the community are [indiscernible]?

>> in my comments, i referred to being responsive to what we heard around the chinese language translation. that communication will be mailed to people. we have also reached, the san francisco police department does a regular lingual monthly meeting in addition to the regular captains meeting so we reached out to the captain to be a part of an upcoming monolingual meaning. to participate in that and have translation at one of those meetings. i've also reached out to the apa to be a part of an upcoming meeting in the valley that is monolingual. we know now that that communication would be different

than some of the meetings until this point because we were talking about the two methods of demolition and information about both. now that we have made a decision, the presentations would be different in nature but still trying to provide people with information about the overall project as well as specific information about the demolition method we have chosen. >> i also wanted to say, because you alluded earlier that you have interpreters are translators. i don't know if you are aware but the city of san francisco has a department that has immigration services and they have a list of interpreters and translators. if you need one. they are usually on call and the other pieces, i don't know if you've done surveys. of how many of

the population of this community because it is available with the city. i was in the district task force and i know that departments elections for example have numbers of where the people are, and how many what the populations are. i want you to be aware of these resources available and to have maybe improve the community outreach methodology through community so that there is representation and they know what's going on in their community. >> thank you. i think you can't do what i do for a living alone. community fairs are just that. you cannot do this and appreciate not appreciate the importance of the community voice so it does speak to organizations or companies made up of people and it speaks to

care for the community if we heard the community voice and heard a decision that was heavily a part of that decision. >> thank you. >> i know [indiscernible] for very long time. she was president of the bayview hunters point business association and a board member of the [indiscernible] association and i'm sure she will do a good job during this committee listening to the committee and what they need. >> thank you. >> i have a couple of questions about the local hire concerns that were raised. maybe i should ask the question, i'm assuming this work is subject to the agencies local hire program? >> it most definitely is and we

meet with [indiscernible] when she joined the oci team we meet with the staff on a regular basis to talk about local hiring and we meet with them on a monthly basis. they provide us partnership and oversight to the project with local hire requirements. there is regular meetings with us and with the training organizations that serve the neighborhood so that we can make sure our contractor is in compliance. obviously, the developer [indiscernible] contracts and then the contractors hire but we partner with the contractors and provide oversight just like oci does them to regular looking to make sure we are in compliance and those good faith efforts

are strident once. besides local hire, our small business policy [indiscernible] we have any [indiscernible] and we can make presentation to the commission at any time that we make regular presentations on our status to the cac on a regular basis. >> thank you for the information. >> if you give me a moment. we need to see the executive director wants to say something. >> thank you. to speak directly on that, do you affirm what miss walker already said? raymond lee is also here, our compliance supervisor and we are not due for another quarterly report to the next

meeting but he is here to speak on the status of the local contracting subject to the 50% both for contract, subcontract, professional services as well as hiring. >> compliance supervisor, for clarification, the programs under lennar or program implemented our subject to the compliance programs both for small business contracting as well as local workforce. of course our small business contracting is at 50% and local workforce is at 50%. in terms of contracting overall, lennar has exceeded our contracting requirements in terms of engaging small businesses. in the next quarterly report i can provide specific details in terms of engagement of the hunters point businesses. in terms of local workforce, they are currently at about 46%

overall for both shipyard and the hunters point area but i want to say over 33% of the workforce hours are currently deployed by hunters point residence for the demolition infrastructure projects. >> thank you. >> i must reiterate to lennar and oci that the reason why we are having this conversation is because the committee was not involved and overall conversation and outreach until the community brought the outreach to the forefront to have the meetings that were had. now that we are on the road to

having a substantive dialogue and that lennar has made the decision to not implode, it's important and i cannot say this in a stronger, that the dialogue with the community to find out what the community wants. don't rely on the oversight community or the dph. the community requires that you sit down and talk to us and this is how we are going to forge a relationship with lennar so that they can hear what the concerns and they can get their project on board because until that happens and having a monologue and going through the department of public health and having this dust study done without including the community, it's just not a good sign that they

want to have it robust conversation with us on this. so, i beg the commissioners to implore lennar to talk with the communities because their concerns, they are residents who are here today like myself who live right next to the park. i walk my dogs around the park every day and i understand what happens. i took the pictures that dr. thompson showed you earlier. i know that there are violations out there that we need to not bring this to your attention in this forum. we need to have a conversation with lennar in a neighborly effort to try and hear us and resolve are concerns and not run to report everything we find that we

should have that relationship to discuss this stuff with lennar. when the [indiscernible] were in town and they had 30,000 cars they're all at once it was difficult but the one thing we did have with the 49ers, we had communication. we had game day, communication. momenta moment communication. we had, there was a telephone number and a groundskeeper, a pr person at the beck and call of the community to address any concerns that happened around the stadium. it workeg very well and this is what we are trying to forge with lennar to take them out of all of the oversight and talk to us about what's going on. >> i think that's an excellent

point. i would invite that dialogue. >> one point for clarity. as you refer to these documents and the dust abatement program, some of the same flaws i discussed previously in the presentation to you, the same methodology being employed, air studies from the san francisco airport is what's being judged in terms of air flow for hunters point. we need micro climate studies of the airflow. if you go home i'm an old teacher so here is an experiment. getty hairdryer and put some confetti in a bowl, take the hairdryer and blow it at the level, you see it will swirl around. get a stack of books, take a bigger bowl, put it on top of it, put confetti

around it and put the smaller bowl beneath it, then take the hairdryer and blow it. on low speed. you see the turbulence that flows behind it and you see the air being transferred in the lower bowl. these are the phenomenons we are talking about when we talk about [indiscernible] the geographic and conditions. this is what we want measured. when you get to weather report at night, you notice the wind on the ground is different than what's in the hills. same thing but it is a microclimate. the despairing nation and shift in wind can determine which direction of blows and. we would also like to see the monitors in the community. with the swirling effect with the land causing just like if you go out here

and you go by the fox plaza, the wind will be blowing here differently. the same phenomenon in terms of a microclimate and the increased exposure where the particles settle in the neighborhood is not measured in the documents i see. therefore that brings possibility of greater risk to exposure to particulates in certain areas and climates within the community. these micro climate factors have not been into consideration and any documents. i find that as a grievous shortcoming that we wanted to sit down and scientifically in a constructive manner, rather

than the three minute dog and pony show, presented and see what the best method and dust suppression method we use that we would like to see adapted in formulated at candlestick. we are talking about long-term exposure, low-level accumulative affect. thank you again. >> i do think this is the nature of the directors report. it is not a regulatory hearing where regulatory body. but i would like to get information back from the department of public health, third-party monitor and what are the responsibilities of those agencies and entities to get a sense of debate, do they become a partner or can we enlist their support in cementing a dialogue kinda bridging the gaps between the community and lennar. i'm interested in what

they can do. does that make sense? >> yes. the representative could not be here today to participate in this discussion but we would be glad to facilitate the discussion with lennar dph in the community constituents to make sure the dust control measures are in place. and certainly the communication, if there is room for improvement. >> if i may, we are already working on setting up that meeting with the public health department, lennar and members of the community set up through golden gate university. >> thank you. i think that concludes that item. there is no action by the commission. can you call the next item? >> the next order of business is commissioners questions and matters? >> do any of the commissioners have questions or matters?

>> since we are talking about community outreach, our commission, our oci is communicating the notice of meeting to communities? do we have a list? is it online? do we email? >> all of the above and we also are exploring based on [indiscernible] you gave a while back what other channels and other opportunities exploring new technologies like a next-door. we are exploring project manager staff level for ongoing meetings so other people who are not on our list don't ask to receive this the emails or online. we also partner with a number of organizations such as the

southeast community facility commission who distributes it widely both online to an email distribution list as well as hunters point shipyard citizens advisory committee, several hundred members. they are both in addition and redundant to our own efforts. >> i would like all to also suggest we contact or collaborate with the integration agency, it is a long name of the agency because they have a very extensive list and have lists of many minority organizations. that perhaps we could ask them to forward. >> we do have a list but i wanted give it to you [indiscernible] of our commission meeting. thank you. >> next item? the next order of

business is item 10, closed session. there are no clothes session items. >> the next order of business is item 11, adjournment. >> the meeting is adjourned at 4:13 pm. thank you. >> you didn't call the commissioners questions. >> i had a brief comment. on the record because i thought you were going to call public comment on commissioners questions and you didn't. i wanted to point out two things. one is with regard to the commissioners question about language communications. i would think tagalong would be an important language and it doesn't sound like that's being dealt with. also on all

construction issues, the history with the department of health especially in other departments and especially with the department of health, we have found on issues like the hunters point shipyard and other construction issues that they have been terrible on these health issues and claim things that are safe that are not safe. so, i would say you is a commission we cannot just ask them but give them direction because the past experience on all of this stuff has been terrible. >> that's why i want to know what the scope is. >> as an example, claiming there are safe levels of is best us exposure when there are not. the epa and health department both got up and said there are okay levels of asbestos exposures and there are not. so that's the kind of thing we need you to be vigilant with them about. thank you.

>> thank you. >> on that note, the meeting is adjourned at 4:15 pm. >> >> bonnie banks. bonnie banks. my definition of noise is uncontrolled music. without format. pretty simple affair. pancakes, and you're --

people get up on sundays around noon, weekends or whatever. should not be too hard to walk into place. have your audio alarm clock go off for two hours waking your up while you are eating breakfast with many interesting visuals once in a while. improvisation. listening or not to the person you're playing up against or people or machines. trying to get as many different people in as possible. different genres experimental noise electronics, dissonance some drums.a tiny bit of ambient --

the first noise pancake shows, 1999 the first waffle noise, 2001. god-waffle noise noise pancake came out of cubist art, place on mission street, brutallo where the church -- opened up his house and saturday morning cartoons. a big space. you can have everybody set up and barely move equipment around; small room for an audience to move around, walkover and get pancakes without getting burned up in the kitchen. there's like people in their hard-core gabber;

people into really fast death metal; black metal. people who don't listen to music at all. guy like larnie bock (sounds like) set up huge, motor driven harp. i don't know how to explain it. 40 foot of motors that he had running over strings and wires. and then played each string individually with the mixer. there is a feeling of euphoria

when somebody's really good at what they do. experiencing a buffer, pushing your bowels out your rear. different. a lot of noise. you don't play clubs with a cleaning schedule, a guy coming in the morning emptying the beer bottles. you play the warehouse. if you travel around you will see the exact same kind of weirdos doing their own thing. it is like in the bay area it's even more absurd. there seems to be more people that in a place like new york or tokyo. we did a show in new york, i didn't think that anyone was at hardly, and people come up and said i saw the show. i wish they had some kind of

breakfast noise going on over there. i think a lot of people were being, walking out of the shows. that was incredible. i can't believe it's over already, after two hours. if you are reluctant to enjoy something like this it will probably take a mass of peers to sell you on it. it's fine if you stay away. most of the people that come to the shows are pretty happy to be here. you may not be one of them. which is fine.

. >> chairman nolan and cristina rubke we have is quorum item 3. >> ladies and gentlemen ladies and gentlemen ladies and gentlemen, our meeting has gone. >> all matters listed under the consent agenda are considered by the board be enacted by one resolution in the form or forms listed below. if discussion is desired, that item will be removed from the consent agenda police know these