do it twice. >> cleaner to do it twice. >> hold on. >> 6798 i move to uphold the order and hold in abeyance for 60 days to accommodate permitting and work to be done. >> i second that motion. >> what about. >> we have to move and vote and i'll do the next one. >> uphold the fees. >> yes. >> i vote on 6798 and move to approve upheld the order of abatement and hold in abeyance for 60 days during which time the board needs to be permit and finished. >> i second that motion. >> there's a motion and second on 6798

and the roll call vote president chich. >> commissioner mar commissioner mccray commissioner mar commissioner lee commissioner mccray commissioner walker that motion carries unanimously 6798. >> i move on appeal number 6798 to uphold the order of abatement and hold in abeyance for 60 days and uphold fees and they will get a permit and do the work. >> i second that motion. >> motion and second for case 6798 president commissioner clinch arrest commissioner melgar commissioner mccray commissioner mar commissioner lee commissioner mccray commissioner walker motion carries unanimously

on to item f request for rehearing case no. 6795 originally heard on 2014 action requested by appellant request for rehearing and department the department will come up first. >> for the hearing. >> i think usually for rehearing for the appellant goes first. >> okay. you can come up first. >> morning commissioners well, the reason i came is because of the hearing to say it is illegal error to request to goes abatement based on to demand work to be done in a period of time that's not possible to be

done as was evidenced by the previous during the previous hearing. >> the report points out out for the code there needs to be new evidence so forth over and over a illegal error do you have any argument further about the illegal error. >> well it's the same as previous arguments during previous hearings just it is illegal i believe - well, it's illegal mistake to demand the correction for repairs within the period of time that was demanded if me

first place. >> and i can add that maybe i haven't stressed it enough during the previous hearing that had the department building inspection inspirations were properly done i won't probably have to be here in the first place during the intieksz the thing was signed off incorrectly for instance plumbing, electrical that the department failed at that recognize shouldn't have been signed for instance close the walls i was out to sign off it was before fire sprinklers were installed as requested by the planned for instance so i doubt well - that's my

argument today. >> what is your - how much time would you need to get the work done. >> well. >> if you had continuance. >> i'm in the process i already scheduled the previous hearing i already scheduled the neighbors meeting but the rest is i don't know how much the permitting take would take place i need to do the major say for instance another major issue. >> commissioner walker. >> we're hearing on a rehearing we don't need to hear the facts unless there's new facts not present asking for more time is

not appropriate at this point just because we haven't granted the new hearing. >> okay. >> so i can ask a question. >> please continue. >> okay thanks. >> you have 7 minutes. >> you asked me to how long it about take a it's a matter i already have the general contractor to do the work it requires permits and one of the major issues the redesign is actually almost completed as well so permits i don't know how much minded would require to for planning and dbi to approve because there are quite a few of the issues 42 but i'm basically ready to. >> question for our attorney what's our role if he's claiming

legal error what's the burden on us and them. >> you'll have to show that the boards decision previously was incorrect not necessarily outside our jurisdiction or or ran contrary to the law for instance if he presented you evidence that facts were not present. >> we haven't heard evidence of an illegal error. >> that's for the board to decide he's asking for reconsideration reconsideration reconsideration as opposed to pointing out out illegal errors. >> well, the law can't impose

finances or penalties for something that can't be done within the requested period of time i'm a layperson i don't know how to put the legal statement any better. >> through the chair correct me if i am wrong one the reasons you didn't perform the work awe you saw this site as some sort of because it was in legislature or litigation we were instructed you couldn't precede forward that's your main testimony the last time you were here with regards to what happened in a month i remembered at the last testimony you were saying it was still ongoing. >> for the appeal.

>> right so at this point what you didn't have the testimony you had new did you make testimony that last time. >> no, i don't. >> so the last time you're saying there's been drawings completed and new design you're ready to submit for permit correct. >> correct we've schedule on the 31st the neighbors meeting. >> i'm not sorry on the 31st. >> the neighbors meeting before submittal it it requires neighbors hearing. >> so okay. are we to understand legally everything has been done and moving forward or you moving forward on your own. >> no, i'm moving in particularly i royals the permits needed to be done with

time so i'm moving particularly to this. >> the litigation is ongoing. >> under appeal yes. >> so commissioner walker. >> yes. we have not voted to rehear this this is only reconsidering things from the previous one i don't see any new facts to allow for a rehearing. >> commissioner walker the commissioners is allowed to ask questions. >> i understand but this is reconsidering. >> we're not reconsidering only asking questions. >> those are facts that were known at the beginning are we going to revisit every case where someone - >> commissioner melgar. >> b will it be appropriate to make a motion at this point, i make a motion we not grant the hearing. >> we need the public comment and commissioner mar was going to make a point and i wanted to

clarify the focus the conversation on whether weeping we'll have a rehearing and also hear from the department because i think that's the process and then public comment. >> we'll have a question for the city attorney what's the process the appellants perpetrate it there rebuttal from the department or can we simply make a motion. >> ask the department if they want to make a rebuttal and make a redlks to grant the rehearing and move into the next phase unless it's denied. >> we'll have the - is there anyone that has questioned or the department to add anything. >> the only comment i have is the appellant has not use up all his time is he relinquishing all

his time. >> unfortunately, we had a lot of interruptions. >> there were questions asked. >> mr. burger you have 2 minutes and 30 seconds if you want to come back up. >> thank you anything else from the department. >> if you haven't decided i'm done. >> is the board making a motion. >> follow-up on public comment. >> seeing none. >> to restate the motion not grant the rehearing. >> second. >> there's a motion and second to not grant the rehearing roll call vote president clinch. >> yes. >> commissioner melgar commissioner mccray

commissioner mar commissioner lee president mccarthy commissioner walker. >> the motion carries unanimously unanimously. >> item general public comment is there any general public comment for item in the items not listed on the abatement board of appeals agenda seeing none adjournment is there a motion to adjourn. >> i move we adjourn. >> second okay all commissioners in favor. >> i. >> we're now adjourned it's 10:25 a.m. we'll reconvene

. >> good morning everyone. welcome to the san francisco budget and finance committee meeting for january 21, 2015. i am mark farrell. i will be chairing the meeting. i am joined by scott wiener and david campos who are filling in for eric mar and john avalos this morning. i want to thank the clerk and the members of sfgtv with this meeting. do we have any announcements? >> yes we do but before that

would you like to adopted the motion to excuse the supervisors. >> yes. can i have a motion? okay. we can take that without objection. >> please silent cell phones and devices and files should be submitted to the clerk and items will be on the january 27 board of supervisors agenda innocence otherwise stated. >> thank you madam clerk. can you please call item 1. >> item 1 is for the recreation and parks program to accept and expend grant for $6,352,275 for the state of california for the department of housing and community development for housing related parks projects for the grant standard agreement for a period of november 17, 2014 through june 30, 2016. >> thank you. >> i am tony moran and with the recreation and park department and the item before you is the legislation to accept and

expend a resolution for the 2013 housing related parks program grant from the california department of housing and community development in the amount of $6,352,275. this program is a formula grant based on the housing permitted in the city during a period of time and in this case it was 2010 and 2013 calendar year. additional bonus dollars are granted if the park projects that are developed through the funds are in disadvantaged communities and park deficient communities. at the time of application the city staff that worked on the project determined that they would only select projects that were going to secure those bonus dollars so all the park projects funded by this program are in disadvantaged communities and park deficient communities. the application was prepared by the

planning department, mayor's office of housing and the rec and park department. staff submitted the application for the housing parks grant. and in february the board of supervisors adopted a resolution that authorized the department to apply on behalf of the city and apply for the grant. we were notified that the grant was awarded, 6.3 million dollars to construct various park and facilities and we have rdd parks and we have mayor's senior community projects and two are planning projects, planning department projects including acquisition of dagid park and a temporary installation the

living zone located on market street. both the mayor's office of housing and planning department also supported two of the park prrksz, 17th and folsom and hill top projected. they will administer the grant on behalf of the city and we will enter into an mou with the mayor's office of housing and the planning department so i am recommending -- i am requesting -- recommend to the board of supervisors to accept and expend this grant. >> okay. >> we have project sponsors available from planning and mayor's office of housing to answer any questions that you may have. >> thanks ms. moran. first of all congratulations on the grant. it's a big deal for the city. colleagues do we have any questions at this time? at this time. we don't have a budget analyst report on this item so we will open up the public comment? anyone to comment on item 1? seeing none. public comment is now closed. can i have a motion to move this

forward and we have a motion and we will take that without objection. thank you everyone. madam clerk can you call item two. >> item two is a hearing for ending hiv infections in san francisco with brief advocates and with the goal of eliminating hiv in san francisco. >> thank you madam clerk. this was a hearing request requested by supervisor wiener and campos and i am joined with them today and we'll turn it over to them to hold the hearing. >> thank you chairman for allowing us to hold the hearing today and i want to thank supervisor campos for cosponsoring this important hearing where we will be talking about and receiving an update on the very aggressive and successful efforts to move us towards eliminating new hiv

infections in san francisco via the getting to zero strategy. it's a very, very exciting effort under way they think is going to bear significant fruit frs our city and potentially for the nation and we're. >> >> the world if we're willing to support it to make it successful. ing colleagues as you know san francisco has been at the epidemic of the hiv epidemic and we were hit hard during this time and the castro my district, was profoundly and determinedly changed as a result of this epidemic but as san francisco is subject to do this city fought back hard even when the state and federal governments were no where to be found and devoted incredible resources to save our

community, the community pulled together, and this city really innovated and adopted methods of care and prevention that are now models for the nation and for the world, and we have been incredibly successful in terms of giving people access to care when others in the country don't have access to care. we have been very successful in reducing infection rates and adopting very aggressive and innovative prevention measures but with that said we continue to face challenges. in addition to the 15,000 people living with hiv in san francisco some of whom are doing very well, others continue to struggle, nearly 400 people a year are zero converting and becoming hiv positive in san francisco. 50,000 people a year continue to become positive each year in the u.s. and over

2 million per year worldwide, so despite all of our strides and all of our successes we have work to do and we do have a path to ending new hiv infections and so we know how we have to do that and we're going to hear about that today. there is a consortium formed a year ago called the "getting to zero" consortium, a wonderful coalition of government agencies and department of public health and ucsf and community based organizations and i know my office and supervisor campos' office have been involved and we will hear about the strategy today to end hiv infections . we know if we get people tested regularly so that people know their status that when people do become positive they're immediately connected with treatment to quickly suppress

their viral load making it less likely they will transmit the virus to anyone else. we know if we can keep people consistently in treatment so they're healthy and have a suppressed viral load that will reduce new infections and we know if we continue to promote prevention every times, including traditional prevention efforts like condoms as well as prep which is an incredibly important newer method of dramatically reducing the rate of hiv infection. all of this allows to have a future where we have no hiv infections and if we do it right here in san francisco it will spread to other the parts of the country and the world, and we know in order to make this successful we have to put the resources behind the effort. this doesn't happen

for free and we know in saving this community and the community saving itself through the height of the hiv epidemic this city did that because city government even when there wasn't the state and federal support, and we continue to get more federal cuts today even, this city put the resources behind these efforts, and we need to do that again today making sure that people have access, not just to testing, but also to treatment, and also to prep, and i know we have to continue to do a lot of work to make sure that we're expanding access to preexposure prove axis and i asked to be assigned to the budget committee because i know we're all working hard to come forward with a proposal for the next budget to make sure we're funding some of these getting to zero efforts so it's exciting and i look forward to working with everyone and move forward, and i want to offer supervisor campos the opportunity to speak before we

get to our wonderful list of speakers today. >> thank you supervisor wiener and i want to thank the chair and the committee, budget committee for hearing this item. i think it's important to have this hearing as we're beginning the process of completing a city budget. i think that the issue of hiv/aids needs to be a critical part of the equation as we put together a budget which ultimately reflects our priorities as a city. i also want to thank the provider community that is here, and look forward to the discussion and presentation. one thing that i would say is that i think our goal should be that we eradicate hiv infection here in san francisco that that to the extent san francisco has been a sanctuary for so many different people and issues that we are a sanctuary

city city for immigrants that we should aim to be a sanctuary where there is no hiv/aids infections here in san francisco. i think that's the objective. i also think that you have to put the context -- provide some context for what is happening here. we have come a long way, but we still have some ways to go, and there are still many disparities in certain communities, the african-american community, the latino community, the transgender community, and i think that the reason why san francisco has been so successful in leading the way is because we're not afraid to try new things and that's where i think this new focus on prep has come in, and i think that we have taken an important first step but it's only a first step. i think a lot more needs to happen for us to really pat ourselves on the back and we're doing everything that we need to do.

the last thing that i would say, and i would encourage the folks in this room and people who are paying attention to hiv/aids funding is that for hiv/aids funding to be successful it cannot exist in a vacuum. you cannot talk about serving those living with hiv without talking about the other issues that impact their lives. housing is an important issue and we have a housing crisis in san francisco and let's be honest. city hall has done very little to build affordable housing. we still have a large number of erks visions. the ellis act evictions are down but overall they're up in san francisco and in the mission, the castro a lot of people, including members of the lgbt community are being pushed out. access to health care on so many levels is unequal in san francisco and

then we have a large number of the lgbt community who are homeless, and more people are living on the street. many of them are living with hiv and the fact they're on the street does not help the situation, so i hope that as you're coming to this building to make sure that hiv funding is protected that you also take the time to advocate for other funds that is critical to the communities you're trying to protect so i look forward to the presentation. thank you. >> thank you supervisor campos and before we get to the speakers i want to thank adam taylor and my office for the work and representing the office for the getting to zero consortium so we have several different speakers today. first we're going to hear from several participants in the getting to zero consortium and then the department of public health and

then from happen, the hiv/aids providers and when dph presents i am interested in knowing what the likely federal budget cuts are going to be in the next fiscal year, and it's sad that we have to assume they're going to be more cuts but given the insanity and melt down in washington, d.c. which impacts many different things we know every year there are millions more -- although i think it's less this year and ryan white and cdc funds and the mayor and board has been great in back filling the federal cuts and we're doing beyond that in terms of moving forward with great prevention efforts. i want to start with the getting to zero consortium and followed by the aids foun