10 we find the process give the property in relation and the fact they've completed a roomgsz in an effort to have a space better now the three children are out of the home we are not allowed to do the same the dr requesters have expanded 40 feet beyond our home in fact, many of the conditioners around light and air and privacy for example, per slide number 5 and 10 light is currently blocked their he dining room by their third story yoigs edition and the residential design team confirmed this is self-inflicted

we've accommodated the design it does not accommodate 9 code compliant roof deck we've made good faith effort and the design accommodates the dines this is our 8 rear yard set back it is 3 hundred square feet and incorporated a design that is 2 stories or in 9/ceda and 3 on the north side matching the properties placing our allowable deck space is 16 foot and third story office was removed no north sidelines and no south side rear windows in the master bedroom it mitigate privacy views and the third floor deck was reduced in length and width a ground floor was put on the south side and it is important

to clarify that prior to the dr hearing scheduled on december 4th we contacted the planning department we'll be spending a lot of money on the renovation and it is for your offer sees family we worked to have a less impact to the dr requester and asked. a continuance we've made compromises a summary the third floor is built to the proper line and we had originally a 3 foot gap this change allows functionality for the master bedroom and bathroom the second floor deck is 10 feet and now projects 12 feet it allows a 15 foot that our deck will allow 80

us to enjoy this with our children the slides were the stairs will have a 5 foot set back and together with the drs requesters side deck 12 foot wide allows a 17 foot set back between the dr requesters this set back didn't trigger any he xooerl or exceptional finally, we hope to accommodate two chairs the result is the design we are extremely excited and supported by i did residential team and the design does not create exceptional or extraordinary six >> thank you calling speakers

in support of the project todd and ryan brooks. >> good evening commissioners i'm todd i'm speaking in favor of the project at 435, tenth avenue i'm a 20-year resident in the neighborhood i've known them for years and my 4 children go to school with their kids i've reviewed the one hundred and 20 page summary that is fitting within the current planning code and aifld it's my understanding that is not an extraordinary project dipped it comes with the recommendations of the planning department to proceed as is it should be need this process took one year to date that

individuals into the previous projects today and it's a long time lastly in summary nick and sidney have made concessions to their property as the neighbors have clearly wanted and have continued to provide a nice fascinate it is said the same for in a i my neighbors thank you for your consideration good night. >> madam chair and others we've known the holly's man and our children play with their children they're good people we talk about exceptional and xooirld with the exceptional the amount of concessions in good

faith the holly's man's have made if you look at the paperwork the first premise they went above and beyond what the code will allow and above and beyond what people do they've both minded an office and eliminated the offense and eliminated the deck back to 12 feet and said the windows on the side of the house but respected that their neighbors if not someone peering into them and wanted a backyard to have their 3 kids play and i believe this is well been within the guidelines and fragrance i hope you will look at that and see the extraordinary exemptions and read the well written staff report i'm going an attorney

from a high-priced law firm they are not either the dr their honest people that want to build a home and live in san francisco and give the same opportunity to their kids. >> thank you. is there any additional public comment in support of project okay dr requester a two minute rebuttal. >> hello and i just want to point out a couple of issues that were raised first of all they talk about no extraordinary circumstances because of light this construction is occurring to the south of the building the architect made a attempt it was a promotion about in building on the third floor of ms. west's home that is impossible that's

on the south side which the light is occurring the window is asking for a minor set back two foot an 8 and a half foot wide at 1-800 feet they're getting all the imply square footage they've raised comments there's a raised deck there's not a raised deck that deck is 9 feet tall that will offer look into the rear yard was 9 feet and expended it is disingenuous so is they've made compromises all the compromises they offend were all taken back no-go compromises made by those we've asking the fact they've extended further in the back lower level we will support a variance it's the deck

and stairway if you can't remove the deck relocation 9 stairs so it is further away so there's less activity and privacy intrusions on this situation. >> i'm here to answer any questions. >> project sponsor you have two minutes. >> thank you in terms of you know the testimony we've heard we've made a whole bunch of accommodations in terms of not building to the moment to not having a 17 foot set back from they're living area i don't know how much further you have to get away from they're living area or

hot tub again, we live in san francisco at a 25 foot lot and 17 foot is not enough i'm struggling with that concern right there in terms of the light down the side of their houses they've got a canopy sections to the property line unless f unless it's tough for our design to mitigate the light designs of the hanging of the window thank you thank you. >> the public hearing portion is closed commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i have a question for mr. syncot at that i'm going to figure out the light it looks like the location maybe you can put up our plans you had up there before. >> those are actually, the

plans of the project sponsor. >> yeah. but you've been using them that's adjacent to an existing part of the house not adjacent to the area where you want to have it 2 foot set back i don't understand where the light is coming from. >> there's the problem a loss of light and this structure this whole edition is being added to the setting this this south of united states. >> i royals that but the sun is to the south of that that unites you might get evening light but other than that. >> the point is we get minimal light now and creates an extraordinary circumstances for the less light of the edition. >> you say that was something they agreed to early on. >> yes. and great now i want

to ask something of the project sponsor please i'm looking want same plans that looks like you said dollars 17 feet between the deck on the second level deck and their property; is that correct. >> that's correct. >> okay. so this is a significant area i don't see people peering over the fence your 17 feet away that's a pretty big area. >> sir, i'm sorry you need to speak into the. and show on the - with our finger or pen >> it's 5 feet and this set back here back here with another 12 foot. >> okay and that's 17. >> i think that's pretty significant, however, i do have a question in addition to that

not that you have to do this is there any differences on the stirs at an the other side of the deck if they have the stairs other than the other than the one side. >> your deck will remain the same side and there will be more of a separation between you and the neighbors. >> that will mean the side of the deck is 5 feet as opposed to - >> no >> well, that's the deck on this. >> it looks like looking at this picture of the stairs it looks like the stairs must come up to the deck there; is that correct or are those stairs to our deck on the deck comes off the bedroom. >> i think what he's asking our

stairs there's no deck if you move the stairs into the 5 foot set back on the other side could you do that. >> i guess the thing we could do that in order to get the same deck we'll have the deck on that side. >> put-down the deck in the empty space. >> right there but then those that will butt up to our next neighbor. >> it's better to stay where you're at. >> that seems like it makes sense i have my questions answered the third deck two projects the dr requester the difference between 3 foot and 4 foot projection is pretty

minimal you want to put a chair there i don't see the point in that one i'm not per swayed the sent did you agree to it set back to allow the light earlier and it of the initially built without the set back our talking to the dr requester we talked about bringing that in and that way we're at the hearing now it was not agreed b upon by the hearing requester we went back to talk to our architect and because we lost that office space we left it off the back of the 3 story we move that space back in so optimize or make the space for optimal.

>> but it could it is a concession i could make a have a fairly good-sized office what's the square footage of that room if you cut off the 2 feet. >> we lose it is jetting in making the bathroom aushgd. >> that's the bedroom and part of the master bath i see what you're talking about the deck comes down off. >> i have a pretty good idea of what we're facing. >> i'm sorry may i respond respond to one comment commissioner antonini the 5 foot set back besides the deck are code required set backs the stairs for instance will be relocated into one of the set backs you will need a caesarean.

>> right we decided not to ask for that mr. syncot do i want to add. >> only the stairs on the earlier one in september had the stairs not think the other side but on the back it was further away and so thank you sorry commissioner moore. >> it's quite all right. we need to focus what is the in front of united states this has an sensitive and sue the residential design team and it is an expansion of the home and sensitive to and indeed a setting it compromises in a major way so i basically move that we don't take dr and support the design team to the project in front of us.

>> second. >> commissioners is there a motion and a second to not take dr and approve commissioner wan commissioner johnson. >> commissioner president wu so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero and places ion item 13 arrest at 238 presidio avenue your last discretionary review. >> good evening again comblirgz i give may presentation there are additional materials simpleminded by the dr requester we will pass out this is for a discretionary review at a project on presidio after a property located mid block own each side of the

street at the western end of pacific heektd it is constructed in 1941 the subject property and the two property are one hundred feet in depth and 2 and a half feet in width in the zoning district with a 42 height limit project consists of a set back 15 feet from the building wall and 15 from the proposed rear the horizon edition expands the ground floor and the third floor by 3 feet the existing rear wall the existing third floor is 2 feet beyond the second floor rear wall and includes the bay

wall and two other plus feet beyond the floor. >> a deck is proposed below the ground floor and it is populated to be filled in with light wells to match the adjacent neighbor's house 3 letters have been submitted in support of project since the materials were simpleminded the dr requester submitted a - the dr requesters owns and residents of 232 presidio the property adjacent to the north of the subject property the concerns are the following that the project scale is incompatible

with surrounding buildings in terms of height and the neighborhood character the project will obstruct eliminate and air ventilation the design team reviewed the plan and prior to neighborhood notification and found to be consistent point residential guidelines the residential team reviewed the project following the submittal of the dr requester and ask the railing be set back to address the concerns by the dr requester the project sponsor substantially revised the plans requested by the design team this is date december 2014 is included in the back of the packet the proposed vertical position is appropriate and

therefore compatible with the building scale up the street and at the middle block the depth is comparable with sourld property it is of similar height and didn't stent he extend into the dr requesters property this addresses the light and air and privacy and the dr requesters light well has been matched the project does not create any exceptional or k350er8d circumstances we ask did dr be grant. >> dr requester your team has 5 minutes. >> good evening, commissioners

my name is angel arguing man a real estate licenses person from 1991 to date i've visited many homes and the style of this city we are proud to call home i'm here are my husband to save our home on presidio avenue from the innovation by our next door neighbors to the south john and janet on presidio avenue this renovation includes a new rooftop view room for a powder room and two decks to the west and east pr the likely use of those decks for entertainment in this quiet residential neighborhood turning a traditional roof into o a

rooftop party place we object according we present 10 signed petitions if neighborhoods specifically in support of denying the fourth floor edition we were that the planning department has two hatly determined the applications meets the standards our block is a residential neighborhood under the planning code and designated by the general plan as having views and it is good it invites careful consideration it is my duty to give you a brief history 232 and 38 built if a lot sub

deprived each lot 22 and a half by one hundred feet those homelands were built 20 with one car garage 2 thousand plus square feet each and harmonious those have shared walls from the front to the middle and located think a hill a set back 3 by 12 foot from the middle to the end of each house separates each home and provides a corridor for sunlight and air to the center of each not to mention quote and privacy we've owned our home since 1973 our children grew up here and had 3 prior neighbors since 1990 and each family had three young children they need

the renovation from 1973 never an issue that couldn't be revolved in a neighborly way no prior renovations have married to double their homes even given the limited lot size of 22 and one hundred by 9 immediate neighbors we ask the four story be denied we ask the existing set back be keep the permitting a flow of fresh air and welcoming the sunlight into our home the requests has been to create a four story high dark

minimal light well dear members please give our petition due consideration and they'll add more than enough square footage to their home we wish them well i'd like to read quotes from the petition we've received from our neighbors quote this change will be a huge mistake and ruin the lovely views there i can't minimal the city will allow this extension quote why a more hormones sign can't be imposed with the adjacent homes is unclear consideration should be given to neighboring property when designing a renovation quote the renovation will detract from the neighborhood and the street by

disrupting the semi thank you for your time. >> thank you very much >> thank you are there members of the public that want to speak in support of dr requester. >> madam chair and members of the committee thank you, thank you for your time i know that's a long at a for you i'm trying to be brief 32, 3, 4 clay street i'm east west backwards to the two lots i've just leader by a nearby it was an informal meeting to discuss the project my - i

understood the owners on prosecuted were going to build sticks on the roof in order to give us more significance of the project i understand they everybody wants to have a wider home only thing i'm saying this will present for us to have a sun special in the wintertime and the light and peaceful set back of yards thank you very much. >> thank you is there any additional public comment? good evening commissioners i'm allen am architect and being retained by the arguing men's to review the plans and hopefully

support their dr request >> sir as part of the dr requesters team your opportunity to speak is contained within the 5 minutes, however she can afford the 2 minute rebuttal at the end. >> you'll have two minutes if she wishes to give you. >> okay any is there any additional public comment okay. i'm sorry. project sponsor your team has 5 minutes. >> good evening commissioners i'm greg hear on behalf of the project sponsors i do have a digital presentation so if we could bring that up please project does comply with the planning code and the residential guidelines we had a project and