some of the different things they'll look at their bottle service as far as incidents in the district there was threats by a doorman at the salon on grant street and we're looking at this matter and we'll look whether he has a guard guard to make sure they're properly trained there was aggravated assault on january 17th there was a person hanging out for a couple of hours when we went into the establishment they kicked him out and that point he became violent and picked up an ash tray at the same time the police took him into custody the club didn't do anything wrong but i

would like if someone is a problem outside they're not a patron but bothering the patrons give us a call maybe other issues but we'd like the club to be able to you know have a good time for their customers as well as not have this person out in front of causing problems we had a disturbing the peace the police responded to a noise containment we looked at it 8 to 10 people with loud music going on the owner claimed they were having a private party with family members it was sent to the you entertainment commission and the a l you and at 10:30 in the morning we have an operation of a club we've had quite a few

of the problems with drug dealing and use and a lot of violence based on people being ramp up on different drugs this morning we had an undercover officer to get a drug buy who observed mroornz leaving the club they went around the corner and they went back into the club the undercover officer approached the drug dealer and negotiated a price for meth and the officer declined the drug and it turned bad at this point he said man, you disrespect me you're not going no where we're going to take our money it was going to be a physical alteration the officer took action and shoved the person

away and gave the sign so the team in the area placed him under arrest he said he had a 45 it ended up he didn't have a weapon it's the kind of you know we talk about the night life on broadway but have the moreno a lot of people it's - i'm it's pretty hard to stay up and party all night on booze so people on stimulants one club on on sunday morning and another sunday night any questions or comments. >> in thank you very much any public comment on the police report seeing none item 5 our

permits. >> good evening commissioners we have two tonight the first one is the great start theatre which is located at 636 jackson looking for a place of entertainment permit this is a decades old 80-year-old theatre that's been used for the theatre and chinese theatre they'll like to continue those uses and add other entertainment, however, we've run into a planning issue we didn't have time to continue it on the agenda so mark is here to discuss it. >> commissioner tan and commissioners mark for rosenberg and bloom could we get the overall this is the chinese opera house in 4925 had the

original seats and the ageism per sin wall it's a deep thing going up is is 50 foot fly tougher you can see the proposals up and down it's a historical landmark buffalo place original necessary on from 1925 in chinese so the problem we're going having the planning department and i you know, i want to take issue with the planning department because this is a historical landmark from chinatown been there since 1925 they said well, we don't have complete reported so it's not allowed entertainment and theatre use is no longer or movie theatre is no longer allowed in the district it's going to be i'm assume we will get the permit, however it's taking my clooiz client a lot of

money and time i've been beating around the fire department we have to pretty much show continuance use in the fire department with no longer then than a two year break in permits bruce lee is a famous kung fu artist and the first movies in america where at this theatre my client got a reasonably and for me it's something important for the arts community alu your paging paying about happening half i want to see the planning department use logic it can't be torn down let it be a theater or

let it sit there vacant you know vacant guess so cause a problem it's a great project i'll ask the commissioners continue this for two weeks so we can get something from the planning department their unwillingness to get a permit. >> so your request to continue it. >> to continue it for two weeks until the next meeting. >> you can't take action if we have a denial from the planning department so mr. ray will be working with the people in chinatown so should them there's a continue use so for the february 3rd hearing. >> i know in the past we have not had the ducks in a row but

approve the permit. >> the planning and police are the to me need. >> a motion to continue. >> second. >> there's a second any public comment i don't see any on that motion to continue to the february 3rd and commissioner frost commissioner lee. >> commissioner perez commissioner moshoyannis commissioner tan that motion passes next up is whole foods. >> all righty so this one is doing business as whole food effort to revitalize ocean avenue and do their second sunday event first one in january whole foods times to get in on the action so we have a lady for the live permit here not past 10:00 p.m. >> hi you want to introduce yours and let us know.

>> i'm the store manager on ocean avenue and we are applying for the permit to senator of o m a and revitalize our cultural in the neighborhood we did the test to program with the painter last month and our customers like it we would like to add live music as well. >> can you talk about the type of entertainment and i've been to this whole foods. >> the last one took place in the cafe it will probably stay in the venue we can use the top window at the top of the ram for folks to buy groceries and have a shopping experience not anything loud or crazy it will enhance that experience as well

potentially continue to support other businesses to maybe get folks to come in and venue hope and maybe buy diner. >> you looking for more than the second sunday. >> because your permit will allow you to. >> we will go crazy with it commissioner perez. >> hi i live in the excelsior i go to our store so glad you're participating in the second sunday's project and providing live entertainment ocean avenue it's well needed there thank you for being part of the project. >> oh, our pleasure. >> i have no more questions or comments. >> great it why don't the - the police have not here to speak on

it. >> the terry bell station provided their recommendation and couldn't be here. >> great i think that's all the information i need why not have a seat any questions on whole foods. >> i'm with the ocean avenue association last sunday was our first second sunday event a good time actively e actually, two sunday's ago we had art and basketball as presbyterian church and but the most successful activities were the music's performances two from limited live performance venues we got the last time i was here the at bar and the bog lifter cafe a jazz try and had a

variety of events they were you know packed it was a lot of people there a lot of people buying food and could have at the 0 fog lifter that's what we want to continue doing with whole foods jenny is great to work with and a marketing person at the store we were talking about footed events like sometimes samples actuate the whole store a great place to have a second sunday's event i support them getting the permit. >> any further public comment? >> good evening, commissioners my name is steven fan i want to echo neal and he's been a

integral part of connecting merchants and customers to create a synergy i found out neighbors are talking to neighbors and keeping a captive audience so neil and no mr. weaver and all the other folks are really out through connecting people and i can see a bright future for ocean avenue thanks to their efforts. >> great is there any additional public comment public comment is closed. commissioner any motion to - >> i motion to approve i know it's kind of cool that finally corporate is getting involved with entertainment you know a lot of save ways have their delis and their food things and seems like starbuck's and he

applaud whole foods to have limited live is very unusual it maybe start a persistence around town we'll get more entertainment for the shoppers in the afternoon i'm going to approve this. >> second. >> let's take a vote. >> on that motion commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner moshoyannis commissioner perez commissioner tan. >> all right. good luck with that. >> we're going to move on to item 67 is the discussion and possible action 0 for the approval of the special action jocelyn. >> yes. that's me another memo that looks like lee the other memo on this item just to be brief there's a part

of 1060 that was passed some years ago actually that allowed this commission to create a special permit for certain things this conversation is going to center around which dates and understanding what we mean by this procedure ultimately breaks down to the city gets busy on certain 40i8dz this is a holiday so and there is especially new years eve the intendedcy for people to do parties in odd places and people to do thing you you know a little bit last night they ought to that trickles down to our office and the police department in various points to respond with our permission implement a special procedure for whatever

days you think are appropriate so we can approve with conditions we don't normally approve or disapprove and again this is coming from a code section that is attached if you want to read the actual code section behind the memo that allows you to do this no one wants to disapprove a permit but there is common places not giving advance enough or stressing out the sources that the city has a particular night you can allow up to 12 days we've got them out to 9 device if you're counting it is really 9 and, you know, there could be

more but those are typically what we see and st. patrick's today not syncould demay it is new years eve really the ticker so the law requires before november one this b be approved we haven't had the ability to do it since 2010 i i think so bringing it to you to have this conversation and then you know impose our will how we implement it so the law contemplates 40 day cut off and it also requires sfpd

occulttion i sent it to the lieutenant and asked if he has any comments we might ask him to come up and the outreach is important as well as but obviously if the population out there that applies for things doesn't know those are required we'll do our best using the e-mail list as well as the social media and any commissioner wants to assist us in getting the word out so we don't disappoint anybody if you have - i mean it's that simple to give staff direction and we begin implementing that. >> so are you looking for us to determine cost and like the last

deadline is. >> i don't think your - cost it is not in our purview there's a way in the memo to change or in some what you add costs to late permits sort of late i'm looking to the various folks inside the light wells to see if that's allowed it is difficult the rules around - this is supposed to be all permits cost recovery so the work we do is covered by the fee so we might have to provide more extensive description of the kind of work to expedite something that comes in late and justify my own that will cover this is about you allowing us to

create a special procedure what things you think are appropriate and then oozing us implementing and cob to you with some report as to whether you know we've had bumps from the road this has or not worked well in is part of purview of the entertainment commission. >> you guys are on the ground day to day i don't feel like i have enough information is it a cut of 2 weeks or 5 days we'll have to have the extra resources do they get committed i have a bunch of questions why don't i formulate those questions and see if other commissioners have comments. >> commissioner lee. >> you're saying 40 days.

>> that's what the section actually says specifically i don't come up with that the code section says 40 and the process in large part does the police department you know your big partner in a lot of those events have adequate time to figure out where resources have to be supplied especially on some of the bigger event days. >> i think our two commissioners that 0 do those kinds of event are more apt. >> what is motivating it did we see a rise in request this year or more of them unusual in the last 40 days i want more information from the office to know if we feel - obviously you

feel like there's a need to enact this authority i want the information that substantiates that. >> well without the exact numbers i feel that really this is the only time we're going to have serious positions - i think in 2014 i'll say as halloween this year and new years eve every year as halloween gets closer to a weekend it generates a tremendous amount of activity that looks like new year's eve i know we've recorded there was a lot of events i don't know if halloween was on a tuesday or wednesday if this is going to happen but new years eve it also happens other than that this request i'm sort of coupling to

you with does that impose this procedure on this dates it allows us to implement if we feel for whatever reason there is an e no matter amount of activity expected and without your approval to you know obvious this power we can't in the office so i am not i'm having to come back to you and say yes there were this many special events requests for this new years eve and that new years eve and this halloween and that halloween i'm going to ask you with the instance we'll trigger that and knowing around 11 years it is likely to be new years eve and one other you know holiday

it end up 0 getting into close to a 3 day weekend. >> it's about the trigger and if we're going to make a policy for the public to know if you don't do it within 7 days you'll get it out right or have to pay 50 percent more of the fees that would be more predictable and helpful rather than feeling it out year by year i get the broad authority so is florida this occasion arises i want predictability so if i don't complete it by this date my event is not happening or more costly so i'm opted to giving you that authority candle stick park you have anything.

>> so we form a task force or have decision by next week. >> this is required to come to you for this conversation but there isn't necessarily a timeline i don't believe there is the first one designated here is st. patrick's day unless the pd will tell me mime wrong this is stressful there are typically the same events we know about so no there's - if you'd like to form a task force and be formal that's the only way the pd can get together i mean, i'm on this is just a - >> your first pitch. >> commissioner lee and even a commissioner frost. >> just to follow up the timeframe there has to be a cut

off because they get a lot of last minute requests there's a a dewy sent festival you have to have more planning if the event is last minute the fees will be outrage if the public accepts that or do we set a standard you have to have your event in or subject to a lot more money maybe we can ask the lieutenant his opinion i know in the past they get inundated with last questions and suddenly there's a crazy number for expenses so we should streamline it a little bit. >> it's good to know within the

staff and commission what's the threshold not necessarily the number of events but how many people do those events represent so at what point does sfpd dermatitis capacity has been reached so i mean obviously sfpd staffing levels vary from year to year but what is frustrating maybe being told yes one year and next your costs are going to double because the staffing is not there you don't have that clear delineation for the staffing of the city services so providing guidance to say this is where we tap out this is the number of events and the number of people at those critical times we can afford to cover and beyond that that could be cost recovery

kicks in those additional cost permits kick in that will be an easier way to handle this at least it's more transparent. >> commissioner frost. >> that makes sense but when our talking about year by year this doesn't effect that because we're talking about anyone that is filing within 40 days of event and i know from first hand experience the police department requires our captains to have their plans made a month prior to new years eve depends on about the other ones it's not that big of a hardship on the ones that do it year after year they will know it i'm guessing the lieutenant is a plan explain this i don't think the department has a formula it

depends on where the event is being done and all the things that gone i think this is a good thing 40 days out it gives us our staff this guidance and teeth to be able to enforce what's going on i don't think 0 they're going to say no, because of the 40 days and as far as the cost recovery i've heard jocelyn the only way we can charge more for the people if it cost more for the permit there's no cost recovery the police department has to put more officers and muni has to run more whatever they can ask for that money that won't be - but. >> but the folks are the most

problematic are the folks that did know what they're doing and haven't planned or are planning within the 40 day period there's the most problem they'll be the ones at least likely to plan ahead i think you should need something ahead. >> any other thoughts i think we'll hear from the lieutenant from the police department again our authority is with the commissions ability to permit not the police department. >> campaign and others i'm dave from the san francisco police department i want to say this is beyond the scope of what we were working on today what the purpose let me