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so you would the owners have done the right things going to planning beyond why we'll reverse the order because you know if she goes go ahead and pulls the permit that stops the enforcement but making sure things keep moving i semiemphasis with the owner she's getting help but don't see why we reverse the order. >> she's asking for an additional thirty days for the order taking effect. >> commissioner walker. >> so how long will it take to do the work you're getting permits for . >> i minimal thirty to 60 days so if the tenantable to move out successfully evict her at the end of this month we're talking
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about february 28 days because of the chinese new year i hope that we can extend it to 60 days so the work will be done correctly without you know any corner cut. >> commissioner mar. >> so can i ask the department what the cost are as of right now do you have that. >> the fees. >> fees. >> which are held in abeyance because the permits are pulled. >> there was an initiate fooedz fee of one thousand 20 and the those one thousand 28. >> so about 3 thousand. >> and sorry commissioner mar.
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>> i'd like to make a motion. >> we're not there yet we need public comment. >> we need the department to do their 06 minute rebuttal. >> no more comments thank you. >> ma'am, there's a chance for you to speak another 6 minutes if you like. >> i'm hoping that the fee can be reduced because i mean the work was done by the tenant even though the owner you know the owner on the record has to be responsible the fact that she's really that old and the fact she can't have here attorney to representative her to stand here audio hope the board will be lenient on the fee you know. >> thank you any public comment? seeing none,
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anyone want to make a motion >> commissioner walker i move to uphold the order and hold in abeyance for the permitting and work to be done. >> just to clarify since we have two matters. >> can i really up into one or do it twice. >> cleaner to do it twice. >> hold on. >> 6798 i move to uphold the order and hold in abeyance for 60 days to accommodate permitting and work to be done. >> i second that motion. >> what about. >> we have to move and vote and i'll do the next one. >> uphold the fees. >> yes. >> i vote on 6798 and move to approve upheld the order of
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abatement and hold in abeyance for 60 days during which time the board needs to be permit and finished. >> i second that motion. >> there's a motion and second on 6798 and the roll call vote president chich. >> commissioner mar commissioner mccray commissioner mar commissioner lee commissioner mccray commissioner walker that motion carries unanimously 6798. >> i move on appeal number 6798 to uphold the order of abatement and hold in abeyance for 60 days and uphold fees and they will get a permit and do the work. >> i second that motion.
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>> motion and second for case 6798 president commissioner clinch arrest commissioner melgar commissioner mccray commissioner mar commissioner lee commissioner mccray commissioner walker motion carries unanimously on to item f request for rehearing case no. 6795 originally heard on 2014 action requested by appellant request for rehearing and department the department will come up first. >> for the hearing. >> i think usually for rehearing for the appellant goes first. >> okay. you can come up first.
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>> morning commissioners well, the reason i came is because of the hearing to say it is illegal error to request to goes abatement based on to demand work to be done in a period of time that's not possible to be done as was evidenced by the previous during the previous hearing. >> the report points out out for the code there needs to be new evidence so forth over and over a illegal error do you have any argument further about the illegal error. >> well it's the same as previous arguments during previous hearings just it is illegal i believe - well, it's illegal mistake to
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demand the correction for repairs within the period of time that was demanded if me first place. >> and i can add that maybe i haven't stressed it enough during the previous hearing that had the department building inspection inspirations were properly done i won't probably have to be here in the first place during the intieksz the thing was signed off incorrectly for instance plumbing, electrical that the department failed at that recognize
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shouldn't have been signed for instance close the walls i was out to sign off it was before fire sprinklers were installed as requested by the planned for instance so i doubt well - that's my argument today. >> what is your - how much time would you need to get the work done. >> well. >> if you had continuance. >> i'm in the process i already scheduled the previous hearing i already scheduled the neighbors meeting but the rest is i don't know how much the permitting take would take place i need to
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do the major say for instance another major issue. >> commissioner walker. >> we're hearing on a rehearing we don't need to hear the facts unless there's new facts not present asking for more time is not appropriate at this point just because we haven't granted the new hearing. >> okay. >> so i can ask a question. >> please continue. >> okay thanks. >> you have 7 minutes. >> you asked me to how long it about take a it's a matter i already have the general contractor to do the work it requires permits and one of the major issues the redesign is actually almost completed as
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well so permits i don't know how much minded would require to for planning and dbi to approve because there are quite a few of the issues 42 but i'm basically ready to. >> question for our attorney what's our role if he's claiming legal error what's the burden on us and them. >> you'll have to show that the boards decision previously was incorrect not necessarily outside our jurisdiction or or ran contrary to the law for instance if he presented you evidence that facts were not present. >> we haven't heard evidence of an illegal error. >> that's for the board to decide he's asking for reconsideration
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reconsideration reconsideration as opposed to pointing out out illegal errors. >> well, the law can't impose finances or penalties for something that can't be done within the requested period of time i'm a layperson i don't know how to put the legal statement any better. >> through the chair correct me if i am wrong one the reasons you didn't perform the work awe you saw this site as some sort of because it was in legislature
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or litigation we were instructed you couldn't precede forward that's your main testimony the last time you were here with regards to what happened in a month i remembered at the last testimony you were saying it was still ongoing. >> for the appeal. >> right so at this point what you didn't have the testimony you had new did you make testimony that last time. >> no, i don't. >> so the last time you're saying there's been drawings completed and new design you're ready to submit for permit correct. >> correct we've schedule on the 31st the neighbors meeting. >> i'm not sorry on the 31st. >> the neighbors meeting before submittal it it requires
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neighbors hearing. >> so okay. are we to understand legally everything has been done and moving forward or you moving forward on your own. >> no, i'm moving in particularly i royals the permits needed to be done with time so i'm moving particularly to this. >> the litigation is ongoing. >> under appeal yes. >> so commissioner walker. >> yes. we have not voted to rehear this this is only reconsidering things from the previous one i don't see any new facts to allow for a rehearing. >> commissioner walker the commissioners is allowed to ask questions. >> i understand but this is reconsidering. >> we're not reconsidering only asking questions. >> those are facts that were known at the beginning are we
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going to revisit every case where someone - >> commissioner melgar. >> b will it be appropriate to make a motion at this point, i make a motion we not grant the hearing. >> we need the public comment and commissioner mar was going to make a point and i wanted to clarify the focus the conversation on whether weeping we'll have a rehearing and also hear from the department because i think that's the process and then public comment. >> we'll have a question for the city attorney what's the process the appellants perpetrate it there rebuttal from the department or can we simply make a motion. >> ask the department if they want to make a rebuttal and make a redlks to grant the rehearing and move into the next phase unless it's denied.
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>> we'll have the - is there anyone that has questioned or the department to add anything. >> the only comment i have is the appellant has not use up all his time is he relinquishing all his time. >> unfortunately, we had a lot of interruptions. >> there were questions asked. >> mr. burger you have 2 minutes and 30 seconds if you want to come back up. >> thank you anything else from the department. >> if you haven't decided i'm done. >> is the board making a motion. >> follow-up on public comment. >> seeing none. >> to restate the motion not grant the rehearing. >> second.
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>> there's a motion and second to not grant the rehearing roll call vote president clinch. >> yes. >> commissioner melgar commissioner mccray commissioner mar commissioner lee president mccarthy commissioner walker. >> the motion carries unanimously unanimously. >> item general public comment is there any general public comment for item in the items not listed on the abatement board of appeals agenda seeing none adjournment is there a motion to adjourn. >> i move we adjourn. >> second okay all commissioners in favor. >> i. >> we're now adjourned it's
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voter in san francisco before each election you receive a voter information pamphlet in the mail it has the digest for each local proposition on the ballot how does a context sometimes proposition get semido if i had. >> inning. >> i don't know the specific process. >> it's done by a committee a ballot tim simplification. >> 3 steps the city attorney's
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office create a working digest the ballot committee holds public meats and creates final digest the simplified is published in the guide let's look at how this work after a proposition has been approved the sxhoofz drafts a city digest each digest we prepare has a couple of different saektsz the first is the way it is now provides an overview of the state of the law before the measure goes into effect addressed the second section is the material turn of the measure and finally at the bottom there are two sections one is called a yes vote and no vote means and if prep those we try to tell me the voters if the measure passes are not passed uses the city
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attorney's office delivered it is to the 5 member committee created in 192376 the members are nominated business the leak of women voters two members are appointed by itself may and 2 by the board of supervisors the committee holds public meetings for two weeks before each election arrest you the chairman has the sterilized ability to direct the meeting and lead the discussion. >> there's no politics involved at all because we're all journalist or people that worked with communications that has our goal the free right to communication without agenda or boys or political involvements all. >> before the commission meets each member reviews the digest
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along with the material. >> we get the protective technicalities and the actual yaurgd background and letters from different departments and from the advocates and perpetrate for the meeting sometimes for and 5 days in japs sometimes someone will sigh did you understand it no one understand those bond measures of one hundred and one hundred owe 25 packages down to three or four had found words. >> amendments and the general obligation bond members it is marred to explain what a general obligation bond is. >> wow it gets interesting sometimes. >> we'll talk about it but we talk about it in session we don't talk about it before we get here. >> the committee acceptance the city attorney's draft or edit it. >> the reason we rewrite the
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city attorney's digest is because it oftentimes in more legalize than the voters see understand we're quick to ask questions we don't is this is the way it's going to be we come in as journalist questioning exactly which that is to put out into the digest exactly what the legislation means. >> the committee may hear from drafrt of the digests and they consultant with the committee educational specialist to make sure if meets the requirement to be written as closed those as possible to the eight grade level. >> we say is that really an eight grader words sometimes yes and sometimes grab the addicts and find substitute and it
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requires the city to maintain all the golden gate park. >> during the editing of the digest it's displayed on large monitor. >> there's no mystery of what the public sees. >> they hear outline your discussions they know what we're thinking and after the committee makes the changes the proceedings radio on inform the public for comment. >> poach have a right to voice their opinions in democracy people come before us are dead serious depending on obtain on the side and their passion is strong. >> july 4th with 9 committee there's a lot of airmentd argument pro and con and well, you could take out the voter initiative. >> i want to address someone that was mentioned. >> i take exception to the previous comment.
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>> 0 hopes 0 provisions thank you. >> after public comment the committee discussed all the points in an open session. >> sometimes, we change our draft sometimes, we literally tear our draft apart. >> after the possible changes made the committee takes a final vote to adapt the digest. >> i move we adapt the measure. >> at least 3 members must agree. >> all in favor, say i. >> the public hearsay twenty-four hours hours for the submission of a reconsideration to the department of elections. >> the following week the committee meets publicly to discuss the appeals and take public comment and decided wloovr whether or not to adapt the final digest. >> what we really want is for the voter to think for themselves read what we say and read for
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themselves and look and make up their own mind we're in their corner ready to fight for them and the administrations fight often it didn't matter your obligation is to the voter we want them to be able to look at it and understand it. >> learn marrow missouri bhr the committee at sf election.org before every election find a ballot simplification in the ballot it is rankle 1 english chinese spanish and filipino it is mailed to all voter and can be found at sf election.org.
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andrea ashbury and electronic devices. completed speaker cards and documents to be included should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the january 27th board of supervisors agenda otherwise stated. >> we're joined by supervisor president tang the second item on the agenda item one. >> a resolution authorizing the real property from bridge way for the nominal cost of one dollars and supervisor cowen is the author of item one. >> this is a good today, i'm excited colleagues thanks for hearing this this gives the city to inquire raymond avenue as the visitacion valley community
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center for over washington, d.c. years the city is an important asset to the community especially the seniors we unfortunately lost the building to foreclosure over a years ago and it's been a tremendous long road for the last two years the committee has participated in that any he meetings i want to thank all the committee members dedicated to thirty this vision and this is not about reclaiming a building but reclaiming a symbolic place that hold the community total and the city's ownership of the building means you are resident burglary have a safe and healthy place to gather it means we'll be able to have our families and children to thrive in the
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community a big thank you to john updyke and the mayor's office for this property this is been difficult i want to knowledge your hard work i'd like to go ahead and answer questions if the colleagues have questions. >> mr. updyke. >> oh, forgive me i thought we heard a lot about that. >> thank you chair weiner and supervisor cowen for your rashes john updyke i don't have a lot to add we're receiving the property for one dollars gift from the currency owners that acquired it through a trees sale we place a plaque on the property in honor of family members that gift is made in their honor, and, secondly to invest in the property
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