green tariff program bass a customer could scale to match a greenness that our light green program would have. it's a factor for us to consider. with that i'm happy to answer any questions you may have. >>supervisor london breed: thank you, colleagues, any questions, seeing no names on the roster at this time. i would like to open this item up for public comment. if there is any member of the public who would like to comment on item 5, please come forward. >> good afternoon, eric hurts. san francisco clean energy advocates and california's for energy choice. one of the coordinate ors that helped fight on ab. the rates really need to be challenged. right now the

cheapest electricity in california and in much of the country is natural gas electricity. okay. renewables are getting a lot cheaper but they are not cheaper than natural gas right now. so we have to be very clear about this. we do not need to wait for pg & e's green tariff rates to come out before we set our not to exceed rates because they are not going to be below their brown power rates and we know what the brown power rates are and we know that we just like marin and sonoma county are going to be charging brown power rates. pg & e is not going to be able to beat that unless they go to a really anticompetitive posture which will be very challenged by pg & e and not be able to get away with it. this idea that we have to wait until pg & e sets it's rate, they are

trying to set it up so we wait for them to do that so we don't start our program and we wait until after the election and there is not enough political will to get this off the ground. i have to say this talk to wait until the end of the year to set our basic light green rate which is the rate that will establish the entire program, again the hundred percent green we are going to offer is just a separate and small thing. we can set the rate and start the program now and in nine 9 months we can get this done in september and pass. >>supervisor london breed: thank you, next speaker, please. >> hi san francisco resident and ratepayer. we are waiting for pg & e's rates. i'm not aware this is a general business practice that you

wait for a competitor's product to set their prices to make your pricing. the other part of the question because i don't know the details of these proceedings can we not set a rate and change it later. there was reference earlier to change rules to contracting rules to be successful in a new endeavor. changing times calls for us to be more flexible. let's be flexible to see what might be possible to move forward perhaps more like a private business might. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> bruce wolf, i won't announce what i'm affiliated with. the reason why the rates weren't passed the last time, the plan, let's talk about the plan, the plan was not moved on last time was because the reason we were

all told that the rate had to be set first. because the rates hadn't been set we had not moved on a plan. so i'm a little concerned about the message that we are receiving today. i would try to urge you commissioners, all commissioners, both entities to really knuckle down and this is in your lap right now. this is not in staff's lap. it's your decision and it's time to move now. >>supervisor london breed: thank you, any other members of the public? mr. rad cliff? >> public speaker: yes, the cloud on the california puc is going on now. i think we should do what we need to do and move on because i don't know what they are going to do there. looks like somebody is going to jail. thank you. >>supervisor london breed: thank you, any other members of the

public who would like to provide public comment. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner crews? >> i have a question, on the small scale projects that pg & e are planning, has the city of san francisco or the puc actually partnered with them or beginning discussion about possible sites or is that down the road? >> barbara hale, sf puc. we have not had discussions with puc about projects. we have been shaping the proposal that they put before the california puc as an interested party in that proceeding, but no

discussions about projects, no. >> okay. i think my question is leading me to the thought that if there were discussions about site, for example, solar sites that we would want to be sure cleanpowersf has priority over pg & e site. that's something that the green tariff made me think of. thank you. >>supervisor london breed: thank you. so seeing no other names on the roster. i will like to move on to item no. 6 at this time. city clerk: status update on the san francisco boerndz ordinance electing

to study the feesibility implementing a community choice aggregation program by joining marin clean energy. >> jason fried. i have the information provided. since the memo was written on tuesday, supervisors avalos and members of the board of supervisors introduced an ordinance and looked through our own going through the process and given the recent developments happened this week is where the city is going down the road and creating our own option. >> thank you. it definitely looks that way. any other comments from any other members here, if not, i will open to public comment. are there any

other members. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> madam clerk, please move to item no. 7. city clerk: amendment to the memorandum of understanding between the san francisco public utilities commission and the lack local agency formation commission for the power enterprise community choice aggregation program to extend to the duties. >> i will leave the packet. so folks are aware the puc has a resolution. lafco would do it by a motion. lafco would need a motion to instruct staff to sign an amendment. >>supervisor london breed: okay. seeing no names on the roster. i will open this item up to public comment. are there any other members

of the public who would like to provide public comment on item no. 7. please lineup to my left. mr. brooks. >> public speaker: yes, eric brooks again. first of all speaking strongly in favor of this motion. there is still a budget left crucial. i know the history of this that the relation between the sf puc and the lack of moving this is crucial. this mou needs to continue. now i want to get to the specific work that needs to be covered by one or both agencies. either one or both agencies and that is the enernex report is great. the plan that it lays out or the framework that it lays out is excellent and itd would be great if we passed that. however, i was quoted in the examiner today and other people were spoken to about that

examiner about cleanpowersf and we need to make sure that we not only make this program great but spectacular and make it serve local workers and local union workers and local communities of opportunity and community of color that need work. the way we do that is to do the one thing the enernex report was not able to do because the data isn't there yet. we need to set the rates first and get to the process of figuring out the behind the meter local distributed generation assets that we can build because that's not clarified. if we figure that stuff out. putting solar panels and efficiency, that will bring the 9920 jobs and probably upwards of 12,000 jobs if we flush out -- putting it on local roof tops. it's crucial

we take some of the money and staff on both sides to make sure we flush out behind the meter components and efficiency components because they are not cooked yet. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> public speaker: hi, jed. i think it's very clear that none of us would be having this meeting today if the mou had not been in effect last year and given all the discussion today it's very clear that there is tons of work that needs to go on. i hope this would be a very

>> david. sierra club. we want to definitely support extending the mou and get that cleanpowersf rolling. and we'll be a state leader on this and set an example for the state for a big local build-out and energy efficiency. get those greenhouse gas out of here. >>supervisor london breed: thank you. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> colleagues, is there a motion on the floor? motion by supervisor campos to direct staff to enter into this mou with the puc seconded by commissioner mar. without

objection from lafco commissioners. this item passes. >> commissioner, ann caen, would you like to do the honor to introduce puc. >> thank you. the item in the packet is a no cost extension of the existing memorandum of agreement and i recommend it for your approval. thank you. >> okay. may i have a motion from our commissioners? >> so moved. >> second. >> is there discussion on this item? >> i do. i have a comment, madam chair. i think it's appropriate to recognize the value of staff of lafco specifically jason who i worked with for the past several years. jason's wealth of knowledge but most important he makes himself available to any of the public utilities commission. as i

move forward i'm going to find his time and willingness to sit down to be invaluable. so i'm fully in support. >> further discussion? i call for public comment on this item. seeing none, i will call for the vote. all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? the motion carries. >>supervisor london breed: all right. with that we are moving to item no. 8. >> item no. 8. general public comment. >>supervisor london breed: are there any members of the public who would like to provide any general public comment on items not on the agenda today. >> public speaker: . jeff brooks. this is sort of a related item very important and coming up as an imminent issue filling of the final seat on the sf puc by appointment. that final seat is the seat that is required to have a

person that has ratepayer or consumer advocacy experience. and i think it would be, i'm pretty much directing this at lafco. i have a feeling this won't be entirely wrapped up by the end of february and it might be a good idea to in case it's not resolved why it to schedule an a discussion of proposition e in 2008 whiches the proposition that gave the board of supervisors power to vote on this. the vote was loud and clear in proposition 8 that we want the public utilities commissioners. for example commissioner vietor has clear environmental just -- justice experience. i have to put on

my consumer activist hat we have to do more digging. we may apply for a different sfpuc. we must honor that ballot measure and if we get to lafco meeting time next month, if this decision hasn't been made. it might not hurt to have a brief discussion about what that proposition is about and how we should be honoring that proposition. we need badly for the help of cleanpowersf to have a ratepayer advocate and stay on stop of it. >>supervisor london breed: thank you very much. any other members of the public.. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> with that, we are at the

end of our meeting. again, thank you all very much for coming out today. thank you to the advocates, to the mayor and everyone else who is going to continue to work with us all to make sure that we launch clean power this year. thanks, again. this meeting is adjourned. [ meeting is adjourned ] >> >>

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. >> welcome to the smraul business commission meeting on monday, january 26. it is 2.09 and we are starting the commission meeting. this meeting is televised live and we want to thank sfgov tv for televising the meeting. please for the public turn off all cell phone and pagers. item no. 1 is roll call to order. commissioner adams, here. commissioner dooley here. commissioner dwight, here. commissioner ortiz-cartagena said that he would be running a little late. commissioner yee-riley, here. commissioner