se my father taught me that there's no excuse you run your business you need to know what you need to do to run a business not only ordering food when i had any club the most important thing was the permits including my as an absent permits that's how i had money to operate on the permits and also the lack of outreach to the community any part of the community is is a negative for me as well and the fact that the applicant felt that he did not have to answer any more of our questions and stuff we're a regulatory agency and very friendly to business and the questions we've asked were not out rankle so if this

comes up for approval i'll not be voting for it. >> we have to act on that we'll have to continue it but any more comments or points of view we put out there before entertaining a motion. >> all right. >> just to clarify this request is for the additional time between 3 and 5 it doesn't in my way impillage upon their ability to continue until 3; correct. >> correct. >> i think there's a lot of permits in the city and a lot of paper to get across and some would say there's too much and we can't blame a brrn amendment

from the burden from the city i'm not trying to excuse i would like to have seen for straight answers to our questions we didn't get tonight so you know, i want you guys to succeed we all want you to succeed on top of that i remember the first time we were dealing with our permit there were incidents you were not addressing like speaking out it's not good to see us to continue because ultimately we're the ones that enable you to run our business so the buck does stop i with you but the neighbors and other agencies and from the neighbors that exclaimed we hear and we have to deal with that if we're going to extend a business to

run until 5 in the morning or 6 the truthful permit allows you, we need extra responsibility because the city services are less and there's fewer police out to respond to call so you're in a bind when you're not showing you you can be responsible with the permit you currently even have so - i don't know if people are ready to move to deny this that means they have a year before they can come back to us we can continue it i don't know what will happen if you want to see more neighborhood outreach or potential to meet with another communicated organizations or we can approve it so we could approve it with many conditions

those are our options. >> someone has to make a motion. >> and someone massachusetts has to make a motion or sit here in silence. >> or we can continue this until march third so have no more time to craft a permit condition. >> i'll make a motion to deny the permit. >> okay. the motion to deny a second? second >> the motion and second any further discussion someone want to punish. >> your permit is like you have to consider it like gold if we take our permit away you canned serve fast food i don't know why

an operator i know there's a lot of people that go to our place south of market you've got a great after-hour service i don't understand the disregard of that and so if we deny today it sound like we're going to do that we have a year for you to productive it to us but right now i have no confidence. >> just for clarification i'm not entirely sure if the year holds a permit we know this is an original application is denial would be a year before you could reapply i'm not sure whether that holds for an amendment to a permit so i can found out but not this evening. >> reapply in 6 months.

>> that's possible so as far as the intention of this commission or the wish of the commission take a look at and see if you go ahead and do something we find out shouldn't have done this will bring this back to you to make a change it seems like i don't know the answer try something that feels right to you and fought the consequence. >> maybe not a year but at some point in time so we have a motion to deny and second that they other comments? or the let's take it to a vote >> all right. on the motion to deny the amended request for this permit commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner moshoyannis commissioner perez

commissioner tan. >> that motion passes which means the it's done. >> the more i think about this is a condition so you have just simply denied the amendment of the condition i don't think the prohibition of the years is really. >> actually - >> in play when we are talking about him coming to you, in fact with a change of condition you said no which is in our right to do that but i don't think he now is barred from coming back to you in summary. >> he can come back. >> he can reapply and come back whatever. >> i hope he comes back because i'm sure we'll be up there watching and driving by the restaurant more.

>> to say to you guys if you're able to reach out to your neighbors and do proactively community outreach show us you can work with folks in advance of those hamburger i tinting intend to get the community feedback and put in the time and energy and effort neighbors to neighborhoods it is going to reflect better. >> it is meaning talking about with what you plan on impacting the neighborhood okay. >> sorry we can't talk anywhere i recommend you work with officer torres to see how you know kind of work with the police especially around the issues of the - so we are going to move on we don't have any more time to discuss that item 78 a hearing on a rule change

all the commissioners received coordinates over e-mail it is fairly mosaic active cleaning up up the language and words that needed to be cleaned up. >> for the purposes of being clear with record there's. >> memorandum on page dated the second of february there is a draft a clean what we're calling a clean draft of the rules and the red line version showing the changes that were requesting that you approve tonight for again, the rolls and procedures for the rules of entertainment the extended hours and limited live performance permits simply put since 2007 when is the last time those rules were in front of the

commission there's been 3 changes to the code sections we work windfall tax police code one 09 that was fairly steven and refined and processes for the permit extensionss another in 2010 to expand the grounds for revocation and lastly in 2011 to create this new thing called the live performance permit the code the police code the sections 1060 and 70 are our bicycle those rules promulgate more in a specific way how the commission precedes in terms of hearings when someone comes in front of you to you know be suspended or revoked and so

those steps you take are outlined in those rules and in 2007 maintains in 2015 they didn't so the clean version in front of you simply makes the changes so they reflect what the sections in the code say and i'm asking kindly that we approve those. >> thanks for putting that out and cleaning up up house. >> so commissioners are are there are clarifying questions it is pretty straightforward any comments on this. >> comments thanks for the work reading it was kind of i imagine you trying to write it. >> you can they can our st. >> i want to make a motion to

approve those changes. >> moved and seconded is there public comment i was sometimes i forget that no public comment public comment is closed. >> let's take a vote. >> commissioner perez commissioner moshoyannis commissioner joseph commissioner lee commissioner frost commissioner tan and the motion passes we're going to move on to item 8 commissioner questions or comments this is a free-for-all commissioner joseph. >> i'd like to take this time to offer a closing this meeting in memory of eddy bell cookie dough cookie dough was an iconic san francisco person who spends his time not only entertaining

people in san francisco but raising money for charity and other causes eddy passed and i away this past thursday in port authority advert they're still raising money at go fund me to cover expenses he died in port authority 51 art they have to bring his body bank serves on march 4 to once again i'd like to adjourn this meeting known to us as cookie dough. >> thank you commissioners other comments? all right. any public comment on this lovely memorial meeting no our final thing any new business

items item 9 agenda for march third or future dates >> commissioner. >> i want to tell you march second at the regency it is the cocktail the show starts at 7:30 and you can begin with a party that is nor the public as well you can buy our ticket at 90 awards.org see you then no agenda items if i have any let us know any public comment no one that means our meeting is adjourned have a again night ready to begin

and good afternoon today is february 3, 2015, this is a special meeting of the building inspection commission i'd like to remind everyone to please silence all electronic devices. the first item is roll call arrest commissioner mccarthy commissioner vice president mar commissioner president clinch commissioner lee commissioner mccray commissioner vice president melgar commissioner walker we have quorum and the next item is item 2 discussion and possible action on a proposed budget of the department of building inspection for a fiscal year 2015-2016 and 2016-2017.

>> good morning commissioners deputy city attorney for the department of building inspection in your packet you have two items and both of the items from january 21st meeting it is did budget that excludes the memo from the director duffy giving a highlight of the budget and also prepared kind of a high-level power point summary i'll go over to be in the on the same page i'd like to go over some highlights of the budget and then especially i'm happy to answer any questions you may have. and an update on the fee study you've talked about with the controller's office i mean that that fee study impacts what will happy with the budget. >> yeah. so why not get started first of all with the budget goals for the 2015-2016 and 2016-2017 and so the proposed budget funds

positions training and supplies and outreach and it projects this is the department of such reviewing the plans and the license in compliance with the state regulations to provide state codes and standards to protect the occupant rights and deliver the highest level which customer service as well as efficient and effective administrative practices o are similar since it has been in existence if focuses on the salaries and it projects and training as well as community outreach so the budget guidelines so in the prior years submitting a 2 year budget that budget is for 2015-2016 and 2016-2017 and because last year, we submitted

a two year budget for 2014 we actually have an proftdz 2015-2016 bucket so basically that budget serves as the base going forward and the mayor's office instructed all departments to have the 2015-2016 funtsdz e.r. funds at that level as i said that doesn't impact us for the special revenue funds because of the everything that's going on with the economy this is good for citywide this is the first time at least three or four budget no calls for the budget reduction so at dbi our budget instructions in many ways similar to the mayors budget instructions i'm sure you're aware of we've been in the midst of a few studies back in mayor

or march of 2014 and as a special revenue department accurate revenue projections determine our budget we don't get support from the general fund so we're waiting the completion of the fee study he know there will be recommendations for reductions in our fees we are president to wait to kind of get an idea of our role revenues 0 how much fund balance so given the final revenues as well as the fact the departments budget has been increasing we've decided to basically separate our budget at the baseline budget we talked about that before so if you want to look at the next slide basically, we have budgeted revenues and as you can

see we are projecting our revenues to go down by $9.7 million and the reason being we've just basically, the discussions we've had with the consultant we trying to gage whatever our reduction a 5 percent renewals e restriction that means we'll bring in $58 million in revenue we know it's a balance out 9.7 balance to balance that budget once again i keep saying this again and again again, we don't know what the revenues will be but at this point we'll wait for the fee study aid once we get a fee study registrations and the schedule we'll rise that on the expenditure does the good news is that we are not

proposing inform make kits based on what we budgeted on 2015-2016 last year we're geological going to keep it at $72 million from the mayor's office last year so because we're like $72 million we won't have to worry about cutting at this point in time for 2015-2016 we can keep the budget as is and basically use fund balance to balance the budget so for expenditures the basic reduction in the budget is a major reductions in professional services because of a lot of projects and basically a reminder projects go projects are the budget will be taking money from the annual budget and we'll put the money aside not to

revise is it is ongoing because it is for the multi year in 2015-2016 owner the past two years so much money in project funding we have money set aside and so we'll not need as much money in 2016-2017 so for authorized positions once again we're not proposing to make reductions last year when the budget watsz approved it included one new position for an it position in 2014-2015 we had every year new positions if you look at the trend we're down from 209 authorized positions to 3 hundred and 13 for 2015-2016 and those are authorize positions we've been steadyly going in the construction

industry so basically i'll go over our budget summary for the functions we have a lot of money in projects like i said for it projects we've quota money for the disaster recovery and hardware updates and our italy's manager has submitted a low budget for 2015-2016 to get the department up to speed for technology and that coincide with us going little we have funding a about $7 million in technology be projects that are budget that money lasts over a few years to we could not have to slide on the it projects we may change the training to improve the customer service similar to 2014-2015 our largest non-slayer was work orders about

$10 million for the various departments including the city attorney and the controller's office dpw and purchasing reduction that's our largest non-similar month departments that will be salaries we maintain the supplies in 2015-2016 but in 2016-2017 you'll see a slight increase next cycle comes in if you look at the next page you'll see basically this is the high-level of the department and where the expenditures are you'll see basically salaries we have salaries and premier pay and there are no changes from the base to what we're recommending i've said before so basically in 2015-2016 request about $72 million the same in

2016-2017, of course by 78 we have a new fee study out we'll be before then before planning for 2015-2016 we'll make adjustments so conclusion and next steps the department is focusing on the base amount allows the department to plan for new fees they've got balance budget and approved funding for it and the buildings improvement and once the fee study is approved we'll have an estimate that is the summary of the budget i want to follow up with the two overriding questions about our budget and had to do with the rad program i have an update

we've had an opportunity for it met with the market values to talk about the project we met about a week ago they're planning on the review i believe the projects over the counter it looks like we will be able to accommodate them in our normal project working with them we'll have someone they can work directly with but not we have a major inputs on the inspection side we inspect the hope is that there will be start spuksz and have permits by october we don't know if that is going to impact the inspections i will - he was in the meeting to give you more details he'll talk about the plan restriction and rosemary

talked to them how 0 do we balance the community outreach with the same organizations it's my understanding that only one organization is going to be involved through our code enforcement outreach program and in addition our meeting it looks like a lot of what is going to happy the residents will be relocated we don't know if there will be as many complaints so baselines that meeting discussions for now we do not - we're not proposing to add anything to the budget it can be magnitude in and up in the air but i mentioned earlier we have vacant positions including the building inspector and plumbing inspector and housing inspector we see have a lot of inspection

vacancies and engineer vacancies and have positions that are vacant in the projects that is actually better in some ways we don't want to staff up once the works goes away we have project positions we can also use things around at this point in time we're going to bet the budget as see and we can make adjustments later. >> you commissioner walker. >> thank you very much for that update i know that several of us have concerns about making sure the transitioned happy so it is also connected because it is one of those with are requires both building and housing to work together with the recent slate of fires that have been going on in some of our apartment buildings those are not the

residents holes overview hotels we've focused a huge and very effective program but some of the older apartment buildings and maybe we need to look at do we need to inspect them more frequently i know that we don't know what the issues were but there's like three or four large buildings that have been on fire and some concerns about making sure that we inspect frequently so i hope he can look this together it is making sure our housing inventory that's aging is safe there's a there's a there's a willingness. >> and an update on the fee study pat stevenson from the controller's office and the goal

to come back on february 8th to the commission we - i had a chance to talk with the controller's office and it appears the fees we normally charge haven't been studied there's a round 2 work with the staff to come up with some time studies on certain fees that will have to be thrown in the mix i'll get an update probably next week they'll scheduled to come in on the 18th but not sure about the level of detail with not all the fees that needed to be included i'm happy to answer any questions you may have. >> commissioner. >> do we have a qualified list of fees. >> we do. >> we turned them over to the fee study people they missed some and