i wanted to get that out of the way for the blame so having said that i want to bring up a critique and great, thank you. >> do you want to come on up. >> you want to speak on the one to our right that one. >> i own the restaurant. >> at 346 o farrell street and i'm here to apply for a permit formal more extended until 5 clock last meal. >> why to 5 you have it to 3 right now. >> we have - okay go going back in a furious we recently

basically trying to extend it for the reason when we started this extension of the business we were somewhat - we were mislead we had a loud place we were scheduled to the customers that were drunk like 1 o'clock they were coming in we catered it in a manner that was not sufficient to be honest with you it took a while to realize when i got myself into i took 3 steps back this year i've discontinued the music that is called the loud music distancing and this and that that's continued about 6 weeks now i took that discussion because i'm trying to cater to the

audience that comes if the xyz clubs but i was doing something wrong i was catering to the customer worship not spending anything at my restaurant i was getting a bad reputation it took me quite some years to years i executed the line at 12 we have a cue if somebody times to come into our place we serve only food they will pay and get seated otherwise you're not going to get into my restaurant we have two security guards it help us wonderful now we've build a cue and people are very nice in san francisco i've had come across zero can't say 99 of

the club has changed very nice people they come drunk and in a cue i've seen them go back to the corner and wait in the cue that's definitely a good choice because i want to carry out to someone that is at least stand goobl they need to come back in a half hour and if that half an hour 45 miles per hour a their sobered up now they can have a meal if a person is intoxicated they need help i want to be that facility that gives him something that was not necessarily we're a food place and going to serve food and if there's a place called for

microscopic we don't do that no longer we strictly serves food if someone needs help that's also part of my job once our in my store i take that serious so we have calmed the music one hundred and 45 people i'm telling my examiners look if you guys want to come to my restaurant you're going to get your order taken and if someone want to make froubl in my place that's not happening no free in my place we've having had zero cultural of trouble in my place to the cultural as changed along with me and if you guys permit it that will be nice and if, if you would i would feel very, very happy. >> we have a few more questions

commissioner joseph. >> so just staff this application this is his current application 2015. >> that's an amendment he always has the previous application i didn't put the whole thing. >> okay. i guess i have to ask you this is the one that was submitted in 2012. >> yeah. >> i get it in 2012 under item none 10 it says describes our plan to control the crowds on the sidewalk of streets he says there's no lines we're a restaurant we don't endorse the noise a that's 2, 3, 42012 and now i am assuming you enforce no smoking on your line; is that correct. >> i request endorse no smoking

we're endorsing 20 feet of our area we're 20. >> i don't know last time i received from the city is 20 so we do enforcement. >> can i sky a question you're a business owner and know what licenses you need to run our business how come you didn't pay tax. >> i've been very bad at reading the lawyer said please start reading so every time i went out to pay a fee i don't know until what kinds of things are listed into the business permit i've been only operating the business licenses and some taxes are paid i don't know

first of all i'm not involved in the permit process so i have no way to know until the city contacted me i took an action and i'm so sorry if i if but moving forward i found out i take care of and in some being attendant to the city i had started my business in 1997 on third and jones. >> i need you to answer the question you didn't pay our fees because you didn't know. >> my correct language would be i wasn't aware of such fees that i had to pull the permits because i've been in business for the last 9 years i didn't have no one to tell me. >> when they sent you a renewal in the mail you don't read your

mail. >> at this point, i think that ms. she had - and e lashed. >> he was built in 2010 and 2011 and he paid and then 2012 2013 he was billed and display pay any of the licenses and can be and paid those are licenses the extended licenses. >> i understood that he was receiving a renewal in the mail like all the people like we are for all our licenses and paid nothing you didn't pay it because you didn't read our mail or you didn't read well enough is that it. >> i didn't know it was supposed to be effective on this form. >> they sent i something and i didn't understand it. >> so the two years you received it and paid for it how

did you not do that the next two years. >> some point the officer i can't remember his name's an officer's came out to check if we have an avenue, however, permit i said we have permit and i - sins e.r. since i've not received what happened along the way that when those officers approached me for the hours the job part so i said okay. so i came to see ms. cammy i'm trying to remember. >> okay. i think we understand that the stipend hours permit you're here for doesn't show up on your original billow you went to cammy we understand that but other builds for the tax collector you didn't pay we're trying to understand how well,

you run your business whether there are an annual fees to pay to the city you haven't. >> in addition when you got our extended hours permit to 3:00 o'clock you were given a permit and paid a fee and had that permit correct and when the officers came to ask you to see your permit did i refuse to show them the permit? >> no, i didn't. >> you didn't so the officer that submitted this to us didn't he will tell the truth. >> in my point of view. >> not our point of view you did it or didn't you refused to show him. >> i have - >> when the city official asked for your permit and i've not said that mime answer is i'm

going to assist you because i'm going to get into the process of understanding why we're here - okay eject go if you were to go back a year back there was a person of the badge come twice and part of the files i made those myself once upon a time, there was an officer's with a badge said i is to check our employees i kind of doubted the guy i kind of doubted the guy if you can show me your badge and he took it back and put it into his pocket over here so i said okay. if i want to have a seat i'm busy right now right now right now i left the counter and estimated outside. >> i'm sorry to truth of the matter you but my question

simply was did the refuse to show the officer your permit. >> my answer is i did not say no. >> i didn't say no, but did you say yes and show him our permit. >> i was going to walk him he didn't want to walk. >> he thought asked to be seated and when i came back he was gone. >> he's talking about last year. >> i'm talking about recently. >> he's trying to get us over here. >> i have one more question and let you go you have security at our door and you have another security inside. >> one at the door and one is watching the lines so it didn't people don't break the barricades.

>> so they're both outside you have no one inside i have a report from the police. >> the line is inside the restaurant we're watching the line outside but inside the restaurant. >> i'm sorry, i stand corrected so we have cad reports there were saultsdz inside the restaurant do you center any internal incident reports about those assaults inside our restaurant with the police involved. >> i hadn't come across one that the police discussed with me, i'm aware 6. >> any other commissioners i have a question. >> yes. >> so 2010 2011 i paid the taxes and 2012 you didn't and 2013 what happened.

>> i called the business in his place. >> who what. >> we're when business slowed down in 2012, we get the bills now what happened the person signed the contract we get slow and therefore i was not able to pay that. >> so you were not able to my it. >> i cough this year and i did. >> that's all we want to know you can say hey, i'm in the red or - thank you. >> commissioner perez. >> hello regarding our neighborhood outreach can you talk about what you did in reaching out to our neighbors with this permit. >> i have not done quite anything actually but i have just recalling started to deal with the schools we're trying to get into every single school if we can indicator like today

right and the customer and peers coupling come to spend their money swell have 25 percent debt. >> well community outreach didn't mean you give schools free food. >> it's something that i'm trying to prompt as a whole because i see there's a lot of we can do as a person and responsibility. >> can i ask you just this line of questioning is around people that are effected by your rudolph and operating until 5 in the morning do we know that people are going to be coming in and out of your doors not about being a good citizen. >> can i - >> can i say something. >> if you can come up to the microphone and say your name as

well. >> i'm the manager of the business good evening to you alleyway you'll a couple of points i want to make i would like to start with the things he said about the noise and assaults and the refusals paying the fee by the way i joined the business 3 months ago there were pending charges we made by the way i made those payments myself i came to see cammy and i was obviously advised her i should be going to you know people who are consumed with that like the station in the tenderloin went there and dropped off the copies of the payment and at the in front desk

a requested i see officer flores a off that day i dropped the copies and said can you please a pass this message wife paid the fee and everything and here is the proof of the receipts having said that, i came back and because the business is on quite late i'm not there all the time sometime i work in the daytime and some days and night but every weekend on saturday and friday i try to have someone there we're food providers not a club we are sort of you know facility when you are hunger in late nights and don't see many admin places to go and get food we provide that facility there were

in business 2 this is san francisco sometimes on the, you know there might be incident we have tried to start that issue when we applied for the extended hour permit the reason why you know we want to extend that permit until 5 o'clock the number one thing the permit allows us to 2:30 on the weekend some days we have found ours quite stretched you as a customer come to our food and you i'm sorry you're in the middle of your food and now 3:30 there are two things we don't want to break the law we're only allowed until 3:30 and should we ask our customers to go off the premises and leave their dishes

we we were in a situation we were we didn't know what to do i mean i came to cammy and asked to extend it we don't want to you know losing business so this is the main thing why we want a one hour extension with our customers like it comes like 3 o'clock they have their food. >> on a typical friday or saturday how many people are in our establishment at 3:30. >> you median the customers. >> yes. >> one hundred to one hundred and 50 sometimes one hundred and 75. >> so you're at capacity anothers 3:30 in the morning. >> not one moment i'm not saying that the particular moment but. >> oh, oh the question i'm

asking you 3:30 would you have to kick out 2 or 20 or how many. >> 20 to thirty people. >> that's the information what's the demand between 3:30 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. that helps me know how many people really is. >> our business for the night time kicks at 3:30 and people come at will by the time at troukts it's a busy time for as you us on the weekend by troukts we have 40 or 50 people i remember there was an incident i had to request customers that you know i'm sorry but we are closing down soon i remember i

sent almost 15 customers back we didn't take their orders we want obviously we're in the business you know finance and the situations of the business is not as if it was 5 or 7 years ago there are so many expenses and so many things to pay the wages everything is going up the menus maybe the whole day we've worked and those ten or 15 customers are the profit we're taking home so we want a window where we can you know accommodate that you know because of a bunch of customers and serve them now going towards the second thing which you've been told we refuse to show the

permits our permits is on the wall last i mean, i was started from the day i paid and came to see cam new and dropped the copies to the front clerk and requested her can you please something like that this. >> the night before. >> to do that. >> can i ask you a question. >> did you ever look at the permits on the wall don't they have an expiration date. >> no. >> so the tax from the tax collector you're telling me didn't have an expiration date from february to february of a new year. >> you're talking about the permit. >> the tax permit on the wall

does it have an expiration. >> does it have an expiration date and it says the issue data one time permit and allows you to work as long as the fees are paid. >> you get a tax permit from the tax department to the best of your knowledge does it have an expiration date and i on, on january the 13 when i made the payment i was given a receipt and told you'll get that in our mail i've not received as of yet but i have for the initial permits which you might have in front of you. >> i understand that so when you got our expended hours permit in 2012 they never paid

the tax collector and got a tax card; is that correct. >> ; is that correct to the best of your understanding. >> to the best of my understanding it looked like they paid that wince actually, when i think happened now that i'm looking at looking at it again, i don't think they got it on their bill the permits the tax license that shows you when it expires they might not have received one from the tax collector. >> what about your business licenses do you get one every year from the tax collector no? you get you get - a health permit >> it has to be renewed as a an expiration date. >> i was trying to say yes here

according to my understanding i mean the entertainment commission auto can i say something basically, we're trying to establish is your responsibility yes. >> okay. those permits had a date okay they're supposed to be postoperative the wall when an inspector comedian the law enforcement or entertainment commission wants to see your permit it's right there. >> right >> they have an expiration date whether or not entertainment or not they have an expiration date from 2012 because you didn't pay there's something up there that has an expiration date i know it's expired. >> look i think my focus not to go there anywhere what we've done we have provided the fees and everything we already have explained ms. cammy explained why it happened

we all human we have to look at each other everyday errors happy if our end and the department i'm looking forward and told what i've told you're welcome to do what you want to do and i'm not - we've done a good job you've listened well, thank you very much i don't want to play the blame game i think i've spoken it make sense and you guys have spoke up and it makes sense i'm sorry from my end and trying to correct it i have corrected it moving forward i'm trying to do this because i want to build a relationship moving forward what i've left behind i'm not concerned when i left behind. >> but i'm so sorry for

everything. >> so you're saying from this point forward based on our past track record we're going to get you that credit ability to not extend your tax next year you want that burden upon us to make that choice upon what we're heard tonight; is that correct. >> you don't have to answer that, we still have to hear from the police and the public utilities p public comment so i think we have comments as well. >> i actually have one question and it goes into the security issue in reading a little bit here on our application i want to classify your security is basically your manages and counter staff. >> no. >> that. >> reading it back to you it says and it's old. >> since this application

there's a security service not the special patrol police but your oppose. >> we get the security from the gentleman from around the corner and send a professional one by the city. >> all right. thank you. >> commissioner perez. >> i just have one question about the operation obviously right now your crossed other 3:30 on the weekend do you allow people him or her what time do i cut off people to come knowing you have to close at 3:30 to allow people to sit down and eat at 310. >> what time is your last order. >> i'm thinking if you extend to 5 sea allow people to sit down at 445 to have an operation to make sure that people can sit

down. >> i'm not going to lie to you it will maintains to you give the circumstances i was in i was abusing my right but when i was doing trying to keep up with everything else that dpopz when you have a line you want to do a wonderful job it stays under i had a line okay i have a very good line i've spoken for the customers that have been coming in it was something lacking in my part i was doing something wrong i was giving them music and it drove it down for all of us i've taken that responsibility to answer our question i was trying to max out any business such a as i

could i didn't buy a risk when our about to ludicrous. >> what time is it. >> it will cut back him or her. >> 325. >> when i was closed and somebody's is knocking at my door for an order to be picked up i'm going to have to definitely on up the door and give me a number what time. >> at friday we dine at 3 o'clock so saturday innocent a little bit longer than so like the gentleman said 3:30 we had to get people out of there for the past 3 months we've been very generous they've been generous but i'd like that i