impacts and architectural character when completed will be indistinguishable from the pojt approved under the suspended alteration permit. that project was reviewed by planners the zoning administrator, historic preservation staff and heard it approved by the planning commission and this board. the only difference between the two project iss the technical ratio of existing building fabric to remain compared to existing building fabric removed. there's no procedural reason to and no public benefit to be derived from disapproving the permit now under appeal and sending this half built project back to the very beginning of the review process when it has already been adjudicated in every possible venue. please allow this nine year june toe to proceed to completion and allow to uphold the permit. thank you. >> mr. sanchez?

>> good evening, scott sanchez, planning department, just to respond to a couple of points, first in regards to the concerns about blight, after the collapse of the building, i did meet with the department of building inspection, they had in there -- and inspector duf if can get the terms right there's the engineer of the project sponsor, there was also the enbacker engineer for the adjacent project, there were meetings to discuss this, it was determined that the retaining walls, the foundation work needed to be done in order to stabilize the hillside so that was authorized by the department of building inspection, i concurred with that. it was necessary for safety of the community, that was allowed to continue, but no work beyond what was necessary to stabilize the site was allowed so after

the stabilization was completed, they submitted the building permit application which is now on appeal before you today my understanding they've largely been stopped for some number of months and maybe the sponsor can address that as well. we agree this is a demolition per the requirements of section code 317, we do not make determination of the appropriate permit type, if the board after appeal thinks this was inappropriately issued as an al ration and should be a demolition, that's the determination the board can make, but that is again a decision regarding the department of building inspections determination on the permit. in termser of the notification and communication with the neighbors, ms. woods was interested in this, did follow this along i have several e-mails where i described the process of 317 which allows administrative review if it's not affordable and exceeding

the value of 1.506 before, before the notification went out, i informed them that this would be eligible for administrative review, but despite that, we would be doing a neighborhood notification, so i feel that there has been communication. i did not send ms. woods the decision that we have which is not appealable separately, it's just documenting our sdrition that is an administrative review, i apologize, i hasn't heard anything from her after sending statement saying it's eligible for administrative review, i think all the materials have been provided. certainly the case materials, these were submitted months ago, it was submitted back in may and anyone can come in at any time and request to review these dockets, i was identifying her we were

reviewing the applications, we did the best to apply the law. thank you. >> mr. sanchez, i need your help on this. i'm not sure what this is all hinging on. >> i think the main issue seems to be that the concern that the department of building inspection may have e r-r ed in allowing this as an al ration permit rather than a demolition and construction permit, that's a question for dbi to answer. there are also questions raised about this being a lawful demolition or not, it's something that is ultimately at the discretion of the department of building inspection about whether that is a project that is subject to that requirement and in regards to the planning code requirements which i can speak to i think the concerns stem largely from -- i believe that

this is affordable housing and should not have been allowed the administrative exemption you know, i just believe that given the cost of the land and the cost of the work that was done, this is not affordable housing, i mean, i think it's arguable that this ever really could be considered affordable housing. it doesn't meet any planning code of affordable housing, it's not restrigted in any way of people of a median range it's market rate housing, the building that is built will be the same one that was approved by this board a couple of years ago, the end result is the same, the change is how much material remains in the building. from our purpose, the planning department, it doesn't matter at this point because we reviewed this as a demolition, so if it's one wall or no wall, it's really irrelevant. we processed this as a demolition and again at the end

of the day, it's the same building the same envelope as what was approved already. >> and the proper 311 notification was sent out and *efrp's aware of it. the other question i have, mr. sanchez, is you know, how much resources were used in regard to your department alone? >> but i can't speak to ours, but i think most of the burden fell on department of building inspection who was out there right after it happened and there's been a significant amount of time, i wouldn't say it's exceptional the amount of staff time involved in this, but it's reviewing the same project again. >> okay, thank you. >> mr. duffy? >> commissioners, joe duffy,

dbi again i don't have too much to add, i probably apologize for not having a more detailed cost of fee, i didn't think the fees were going to come into this tonight. i know there were fees paid for staff time and there was a correction notice issued at the time, i don't have the amount of that. i heard that 1.6 million dollar -- i'm not sure if that's the permit valuation fees on permit valuation or 1.6 million dollars in fees, i just simply don't have that information with me. i do have the valuation that was on issued permits which i typically bring with me to the hear ltion i don't usually take the fees for every single permit, that's something i don't have with me and i'm not sure how important that is, i wanted to state that and just in some of the comments i mean, everyone at dbi took this seriously we don't have this happen. this type of thing does not happen and we don't want it to happen again and for -- i know

people are saying there's this going on and that going on i was there at the time and dbi and i saw the concern and the work that went into going out there sending engineers out, sending inspectors out, there was ocea were involved in it as well, there were other investigations going on maybe still going on i know no one at dbi took this lightly, we don't want buildings coming down off hills and i don't think any of us want to think that's something we're brushing under the carpet, there was a -- it's the same as probably any notice of violation, an incident a notice of violation, this is a permit to correct that and as i said, i'm available for any questions on this permit. the terminology for the demolition, i read out the statement from deputy director

larry and that's the department's decision. they do have the right to make that decision we have the right to make that decision and i know that there's the difference in the planning code definition and building code, we always talk about trying to get that better and we dealt with it at the board of appeals before, tla's all i have to say, i'm available for any questions from any commissioners. >> i'm still wrestling with the practical implications of this, so if it has been determined the demolition permit was needed -- >> yes, by dbi? >> by dbi, can you take me from there. >> of course, that would be an unlawful determination, if the unlawful demolition would have been determined by dbi, a hearing would have been held, and the result of that hearing if it was an unlawful demolition, there is no

building allowed at that site for five years unless you want to put back exactly the same square footage that existed prior to the permit being issued for the work, so basically it's quite a severe penalty. >> maybe that's not the question i meant to ask. the permit here is an alteration permit. >> correct. >> sxit's necessitated by the fact that this effort collapsed? >> yes. >> but the contention is that what should be sought is a demolition permit. >> that's what the appellant is saying. >> so that's where i am if somebody determined that that needed to be sought also, not that it's unlawful demolition but that again based on what happened there needed to be a demolition permit, where does that take you? >> that wasn't determined by dbi to be the case, it was not

an unlawful demolition, it was not considered a full demolition, it would fall under an alteration permit which in fact this is an alteration permit. because we didn't determine it a full demolition, it doesn't require a form 3 demolition permit which you would see if you would tear down an old building rtion we're still considering this an alteration and this was a determination made by dbi and that defers from the planning code where they have their section 317 so you have the differences in both codes and this is where you end up, so it is an alteration permit based on dbi interpretation of the incident or what's left of the building. >> but there's nothing going on that would allow any change to the original plans right? i mean, this is to build what was approved through all the iterations? >> and i would agree yes, it's

dpoing to be the same project, foundation wise, it's going to be a lot more, there's an awful lot of concrete in there now. >> but to the neighbor's eyes. >> the project is still the same, bulk height, mr. sanchez can speak more about that, it didn't change the project or the size of the project. >> okay, thank you. >> same question that i asked mr. sanchez, how many hours do you think the city resources have been used on this particular project? >> i don't have a number but it was a lot of hours yes, and we did bill for hours, we had a correction notice that billed by the hour, our rate, i think it's about $170 an hour, a senior inspector has a comment. >> i issued a correction notice to mr. murphy for ?r in the area of 8 to 10 thousand dollars for work that we put in

directly as a result of that collapse. >> okay. >> thank you. >> and any other questions still remains at this point is regarding the estimated cost of construction for the project. i pretty much assume that's going to change at this point? >> i would imagine so, yes, and that's typical for projects notd in this case extra for the foundation, if the board directs us to do so and i think you are and obviously it's been made aware to me tonight and i can bring that back to the department to review the valuation of all work including the work that needed to be done to remedy this incident that happened so that would be something we could do. >> thank you. >> commissioners, the matter is submitted.

>> commissioners, the -- i think it's time to put this one to bed. the question of whether it should have had a specific type of a permit and the technicality of what was perhaps kind of a misnomer in the way they filled out the permit that there was no demolition is -- to me doesn't rise to the level that we want to have more process. i believe that the appellants have had their day in court, due process has been provided to them and i think it's time

to put this one to bed. the issue from a non-technical, from a non-procedural and a non-legal basis is what happens if the demolition permit is overturned? the building is gone already. there's nothing left, you know. i'm sorry but there's nothing that would be served by going through more process here. >> [inaudible] wishes to address the board much. thank you, commissioners, scott sanchez, i have information in materials of the permit cost to this, it's under the building and inspection report if i can have the overhead and this was submitted in the appellant's brief. so, the initial construction

estimate of october 11 was 60 thousand dollars for the work, it was subsequently revised by dbi to 300 thousand as part of the permit review process, it was again revised to 610 thousand dollars in 2013, this is prior to the collapse and then after the collapse and review by dbi, principle engineer the construction cost was up to 1.57 million. >> does that imply in which the base the fees would be -- >> yes, the fees would be based on that revised construction cost. >> thank you for that clarification. >> so where was i? >> so rudely interrupted by the zoning administrator. >> i think that's it for me. i'm prepared to move forward from this point. >> i come to the same ending, but i have some issues with the

process here. i don't mrao*ef the neighbors deserve to have anymore process as my fellow commissioner has stated, i mean, what's the use if we establish this as a demo? do i believe there's been some benefit from the so-called calamity? i do. would i expect more from someone would was a president of a dbi commission as well as a current commissioner in the city? i also do. unfortunately, our system is not set up for this type of situation and i believe that it is in the benefit of the neighbors as well as the city to move forward with this. >> do you want any comments? i'm going to move to deny the appeal and uphold the permit. >> on the basis?

>> let me restate -- let my think about this for a second. on the basis that the dbi's determination is sound and not in error. >> there's a motion on the floor from commissioner fung to uphold this permit on the basis that the department of building inspections determination is sound and not in error. on that motion president lazarus? >> aye. >> vice-president honda? >> aye. >> and commissioner wilson is

absent. thank you, the vote is 3-0, this permit is upheld on that basis. >> president lazarus, there's no further business before the board. >> we are adjourned. (meeting is adjourned). >> i'm your host of "culturewire" and today, here

at electric works in san francisco. nice to see you today. thanks for inviting us in and showing us your amazing facility today. >> my pleasure. >> how long has electric works been around? >> electric works has been in san francisco since the beginning of 2007. we moved here from brisbane from our old innovation. we do printmaking, gallery shows, and we have a fabulous retail store where there are lots of fun things to find. >> we will look at all of that as we walk around. it is incredible to me how many different things you do. how is it you identify that san francisco was in need of all these different services? >> it came from stepping out of graduate school in 1972. i wrote a little thing about how this is an idea, how our world should work. it should have printmaking, archiving, a gallery. it should have a retail store.

in 1972, i wanted to have art sales, point-of-sale at the grocery store. >> so you go through the manifesto. with the bay area should have. you are making art incredibly accessible in so many different ways, so that is a good segue. let's take a walk around the facilities. here we are in your gallery space. can you tell me about the current show? >> the current show is jeff chadsey. he is working on mylar velum a smooth beautiful drawing surface. i do not know anyone that draws as well as he does. it is perfect, following the contours and making the shape of the body. >> your gallery represents artists from all over not just the bay area, an artist that

work in a lot of different media. how to use some of what you look for in artists you represent? >> it is dependent on people are confident with their materials. that is a really important thing. there is enough stuff in the world already. >> you also have in his current show an artist who makes sculpture out of some really interesting types of materials. let's go over and take a look at that. here we are in a smaller space. project gallery. >> artists used the parameters of this space to find relationships between the work that is not out in the big gallery. >> i noticed a lot of artists doing really site-specific work. >> this is a pile of balloons something that is so familiar like a child's balloon. in this proportion, suddenly it becomes something out of a dream. >> or a nightmare.

>> may be a nightmare. >> this one over here is even harder to figure out what the initial material is. >> this is made out of puffy paint. often, kids use it to decorate their clothes. she has made all these lines of paint. >> for the pieces we are looking at, is there a core of foam or something in the middle of these pieces that she built on top of? >> i'm not telling. >> ah a secret. >> this silver is aluminum foil, crumbled of aluminum foil. her aesthetic is very much that quiet, japanese spatial thing that i really admire. their attention to the materiality of the things of the world. >> this is a nice juxtaposition you have going on right now. you have a more established artists alongside and emerging

artists. is that something important to you as well? >> very important in this space, to have artists who really have not shown much. now let's look at other aspects of electric works operation. let's go to the bookstore. >> ok. >> in all seriousness here we are in your store. this is the first space you encounter when you come in off the street. it has evolved since you open here into the most amazingly curious selection of things. >> this was the project for the berkeley art museum. it was -- this is from william wiley's retrospective, when he got up onstage to sing a song 270 people put on the cat. >> it is not just a bookstore. it is a store. can you talk us through some of your favorites? >> these are made in china, but

they are made out of cattails. >> these pieces of here, you have a whale head and various animals and their health over there, and they are jewelry. >> we do fund raisers for nonprofits, so we are doing a project for the magic theater so there are some pretty funny cartoons. they are probably not for prime time. >> you sort of have a kind of holistic relationship where you might do merchandise in the store that promotes their work and practice, and also, prince for them. maybe we should go back and look at the print operation now. >> let's go. >> before we go into the print shop i noticed some incredible items you have talked back here. what are we standing in front of? >> this is william wiley only

one earth. this is a print edition. there are only eight total, and what we wanted to do was expand the idea of printmaking. this is really an art object. there we go. >> besides the punball machine what do you produce in limited edition? >> there is the slot machine. if you win the super jackpot, you have saved the world. >> what about work? >> the right design, it was three volumes with lithographs in each volume. the cab of count dracula with 20 lithographs inside and lined with beaver fur. really special.

>> let's move on to the print shop. >> ok. the core of what we do is making things. this is an example. this is a print project that will be a fund-raiser for the contemporary music players. we decided to put it in the portfolio so you could either frame at or have it on your bookshelf. >> so nonprofits can come to you, not just visual are nonprofits, but just nonprofits can come to you, and you will produce prints for them to sell and the profits, they can keep. >> the return on investment is usually four times to 10 times the amount of investment. this is for the bio reserve in mexico, and this is one of the artists we represent. >> you also make prints for the artists that you represent. over here are some large prints by a phenomenal artist. >> he writes these beautiful

things. anyone who has told you paradise is a book of rules is -- has only appeared through the windows. this is from all over coffee. we are contract printers for all kinds of organizations all across the country. >> thank you very much for showing us around today. i really appreciate you taking the time to let me get better acquainted with the operation and also to share with our "culturewire" team. >> the annual celebration of hardly strictly bluegrass is always a hit now completing itself 12 year of music in the incredible golden gate park. >> this is just the best park to come to. it's safe. it's wonderful and such a fun time

of the year. there is every kind of music you can imagine and can wander around and go from one stage to another and just have fun. >> 81 bands and six stages and no admission. this is hardly strictly bluegrass. >> i love music and peace. >> i think it represents what is great about the bay area. >> everyone is here for the music and the experience. this is why i live here. >> the culture out here is amazing. it's san francisco. >> this is a legacy of the old warren hel ment and receive necessary funding for ten years after his death. >> there is a legacy that started and it's cool and he's done something wonderful for the city and we're all grateful. hopefully we will keep this thing going on for years and years to come.

>> >> > >> good afternoon. city clerk: supervisors avalos,