okay. we'll open this up to public comment anybody wishes to comment on item number 6 seeing none, public comment is closed i want to thank the mayor's office of housing and supervisor cowen's comments we have a sympathetic disinjunctive of the nature compared to the 0 neighborhood paralyze if needs to get out of committee today we are going to maintain our state funding here so supervisor mar if you have comments but with supervisor cowen's comments if we can send this out of committee and that's any suggestion. >> supervisor mar. >> i'm supportive of the suggestions from our colleagues supervisor cowen but i did want to emphasize the importance of project and the 64 units that are blow 50 percent ami it

sounds like that will help to house mesopeople that need it especially in this time we're challenged to build the thirty thousand units of housing but so few are not close to the 60 percent of below market rate we're shooting for but especially for some of the most vulnerable and low income people in the city i know the architect david backer has concerned the issues from the live oak school it is an important project given the blow market rate units for especially low income people and the rental unit i'll support supervisor cowen's suggests it is a very good project i hope that supervisor cowen and the project developer and others work together to make it a

successful project. >> thank you can i have a motion to send this item forward with a positive recommendation we'll take that without objection. >> item 7 a a hearing the adaptation of the draft budget 2015-2016 and 2012 for the board of supervisors office the board. >> okay. thank you madam clerk. >> we have this item continued last time. >> thank you supervisor farrell i'm the clerk of the board here with the departments microwave active finance manager in addition to rick our finance deputy and to finalize the gowns and direction for the proposed 2015-2016 and 2016-2017 budgets at the budget and finance committee held on january 28th

many jones ably presented our recommended investment and identified two outstanding tomatoes items which we'd a lot to have the committees direction today. >> on slide 2 here is just a summary table of the costs we've presented associated with each of the proposed budget adjustment today, i'm seeking direction on whether to include those with the budget analyst slide 3 the the additional information for la jolla co-there were a question of questions and we wanted to provide a historical general fund sport and jason ready as the executive director is here in the audience to answer

further questions on slide 3 laughing co-has used the prior year general funds dollars to support the aggregation eligible operations a deeper look on slide 4 takes a look at at the general fund carried forward as you can see laughing co-was looked at $300,000 for several years and developed a notable balance in 2008 la jolla co-has been using this general fund for seven years to support it's 0 non-cpa they estimates the year-end of approximately one hundred and 16 for 2014-2015 will will be carried forward in 2015-2016 on slide 5 the

2015-2016 budget as you can see la jolla 'coz executive director anticipates 20th century $265,000 for the support of 2015-2016 to support it's non-cca expenditures the $900000 plus is the shortfall between the carried forward balance and total estimated expenditures madam clerk just a quick question and mr. freed has volunteered to talk with me this 265 is a non-cca budget. >> that's correct. >> okay. mr. freed if we lived talk about what are the non-cca projects and in 2015-2016 we anticipate them getting launched

they've been step up to the plate e spending the time it depreciates shifted back to two projects we have inform supervisor tang brought us a project looking at the underground facilities there's a project that came to us from supervisor wiener's office to the board of supervisors to look at the elections and those are the two official ones there's other supervisors that talked about other projects we have not come to those conclusions whether to do additional project. >> supervisor tang. >> just adding on given this is specifically just a general fund allocation i do know you mention two projects outside of cc organization, however, i guess my question is we are under the understanding that first and foremost our work is with cca,

however, this general fund allocation it quite significant and so in terms of how you prioritize our work and again, we do know that one of the main components is cca but giving the large projects i want to better understand how it is that you all indicate our work. >> 70 percent of my time is on the cca and the rest at the non-cc s the second half of this year spent on less non-cc organization and trying to figure out how to get that to sync together we've spent a lot

more time on crackers cca if we didn't have that huge report first, the cca and the commission gives other projects two projects currently in the incredibly and others projects that the offices want to have future discussions but not as far as la jolla could will talk about i have ideas this is something that la jolla could can work on but heres other things before you may look at before la jolla could but that is within the la jolla could special studies. >> any other question a 55 thousand dollars allocation for outside xhoultsz can you speak about that. >> la jolla come in 2011 we did a special studies on refugee collection in the city that was

brought mid financial cycle and it was needing to be done quickly it was outside of any action and outside of any workload so we hired an outside consultant to have a quick turn around around the waste management contract they needed to have a quick turn around what i'm trying to do to get our budget in a proper managing way we're independent of the city and county of san francisco we're not part of the city's bucket process once the money is allocated we can't come back and do a midterm fix 24 this is beyond the scope but i have to get the opportunity to do the work since we've been giving back and i will slightly disagree with the way the city is looking at how we do the

budget we in my opinion have accepted the full budget amount and render return that back to the city because there recent a legal way that funding works in order to keep us safe we said we're accepting the full amount and know the city has financial issues this is the first year we've spent gown user down the whole reserve but this allocation especially most focused i should note la jolla co-could has not gone through the process we start in the spring that is more me having a discussion is supervisor avalos and others on the commission to figure out what is the exact fund now we're done with the

spending down our reserve we need to have a proper budget accept for ourselves. >> the outside consultants is a place holder. >> if we didn't spend any of the money in 2015-2016 that is something you'll not be seeing for a line item we don't use it every year but it at the end to come as a point not in the budget cycle so we have a refund it or not do the report at this point. >> thank you. >> i guess my question is kind of centering around outdoors consultant to be frank i don't know until engine. >> did the discussion on glad

grounding that la jolla could did anything so i've not seen anything to have a $600,500,000 budget including this consultant to say we know exactly what our department is doing and thing they're going to work on but we pay our budget analyst $2 million a that year to do the consultant and the budget analyst so i'm curious about this is it is one thing to hire things you've done a great job but your hiring outside consultants it is questionable how we do things at the board

this is not something i can wrap my head around >> supervisor mar. >> i hope mr. freed can talk about the others projects i know from supervisor breed and supervisor avalos and supervisor campos there's been a number of studies done perhaps they can be shared more broadly with other colleagues and also mr. freed and his colleague went to the history of the general fund support for la jollafco just how to say in some ways a continuation of the funding through the general fund support beginning in 2006. >> sure one of the things that we've done this is partly before my time working for lafco so i'm

going be looking other personnel decisions the city and county we get a certain amount lafco was not using the money they're creating a full power system or a cca once those rules come into plays at this point in time the city hit an economic hardship they hit the other reserve we accepted the money and spent down what we had a good portion of the money that was spent down i don't know in lafco w did clerk's office but most of the money that got paid back to the

clerk's office was for a apartment clerk for our h.r. and all the other things it and so a lot of that money has been paid bags back to the clerk's office for lafco, lafco has the ability to work on other projects i've mentioned in all the reports are located on this website and the bigger one the russian hill study how elected officials get represented in other jurisdictions a study on the registering that was done a lot of projects it's been hard for lafco because we've when i was first hired it was solely for cca that's my focus and as a cost sooifk measure we need to have the executive director and having the interims executive director just become legal

council we've seen the savings for that reason and the outside consultant is not anticipating we're to use a lot but we need to have the money for technical things outside of our ability to we need to find american people stewart expert it's a line item ii hope t is not used but lafco we need to have our money set aside separately than other departments. >> when you talk about those outside studies how do we delineate delineate. >> there's a slither 2k4r5e67b8 how we approach the study and jurisdictions there's been time people approached me they've done a report and they've done the report i don't need to do

the record they're doing a section of that report but a lot of discussions outside of that i don't know where they draw their lines what they will and not do but in the utility of underground network interests things we are able to do so i'm piggy backing off that without getting and having them not sitting down and talking what in their perimeters are but it is a perimeter we're outside we can do stuff they don't do. >> it will be helpful to have this discussion quite frankly until supervisor tang did the police gown thing i don't know that lafco did anything forcing

for us as supervisors i'm here and again, you've g done great work on cc organization but that's terrific but a healthy amount there's other consolidates and layer on layer of things stuff i wasn't aware of so it will be helpful during the budget season so everyone is clear. >> commissioner chan. >> along that same line i didn't know about the other outside cca until i saw the work done around vacancies and the country that's when i learned there was something else we can ask for so we don't have to answer this now but i'll suggest the budget analyst office they have a request from various board men's to report they do

may want to work on perhaps a progress that lafco may want to look for other cca work. >> that makes sense and so in addition to the in depth look we want to give you an in debt for the fund that the cca has granted slide 6 show us the lafco figures for 2015-2016 lafco as spent approximately $1.6 million of the initial 2 point plus million dollars priority by the sfpuc and has a remaining balance of 4 hundred and 89 thousand the relationship authorizing the continued work order was set to exterior on

june 2015 bus was extended to 2016-2017 unless the committee has follow-up questions on the lafco matter i'll move to the budget analyst request. >> thanks for the discussion i want to have it discussion around all of this and again if it's another resource of the board it's great i have no problem but have clear lines defined and also to make sense with the budget and also, if it's the case i'd a lot to if there were a more practical approach hey, we're approving a $200000 specifically for the cca what would you like to have i guarantee a lot of my colleagues don't know that's it. >> thank you supervisor

farrell. >> i have 3 more quick slides slide 7 is the final outstanding item a formal request if the budget analyst for the fiscal year 2015-2016 contract i have asked mr. rose and beven to be in the audience in case there's questions the committee will recall on september 16th the board of supervisors approved the bust services on 2014 resulting from a in a 2.2 percent increase to the contract in 2015-2016 which is set to be unanimous listed 3 percent in 2015-2016 on november 15, 2014, the budget analyst joined. >> the have you ever known pales in comparison and submitted a

new request to the fiscal year 2015-2016 contracted to become effective october 2015 this colorado lo la results in a 50 thousand plus e.r. 2.44 increase to their $2 million $60,000 contract in 2015-2016 and would substantially be annual listed to $650,000 plus in 2016-2017 slide 8 shows the budget and budget analyst contract amounts it was a 2.3 percent cola i wanted to present it, it's entirety and the prior year approved amount slide 8 or 9 shows the contract

amount from 2006 7 to 2016 you see in fiscal year 2003 and 4 to excuse me. fiscal year 2015-2016 and 2016-2017 amounts include the cola previously approved by the board but as you can see 0304 approximately $1.7 million and reduced down to $20 million we've kept it stable for several years until last year when we approved the cola increase or the year before i think it was annual listed in the current year final slide shows the outstanding items i want to make sure that the new committee had

an opportunity to review and consider the departments graft budget as we presented it to a different committee in addition to the general fund appropriation for lafco and the cola increase for the budget analyst that concludes my presentation. unless you have further questions >> that's correct madam clerk colleagues, i welcome questions or comments i'll say the cola for the budget analyst mr. rose and the team i'm very much okay. i know that you know their subject to outside rents as everybody is and had a massive increase in terms of their rents for the office space and they do an invaluable service and the

lafco i'm on to it but we need clarity and the different rules and to me that has to come a discussion i want to continue right now and commissioner chan. >> thank you. i i would say say for the 3 items the outstanding items we've proposed madam clerk i think that most likely probably outside of our budget and finance our colleagues want to weigh in so if there's a way to including include the decision for all members that's would be best. >> thank you supervisor katie tang here's any recommendation if i can make one because the property budget we're submitting today moves to the controller and the mire the final decision will not have to be made until june if it pleas the committee we'll submittal those to the mayor and controller and have

this conversation over the next couple of months and in june make the decision at this time. >> it's imperfect fine and if we continue those discussions certainly i'll do my best and supervisor mar. >> thank you for recommending that that gives us enough time to get clarity from mr. breed for the cca and non-cca activity i think from one of our last presentations the youth commission staffing is excellent and the cola to the budget analyst is longs awe awaited i appreciate it and strongly support our budget. >> thank you, supervisor. >> thanks very much madam clerk why not open this up to public comment seeing none, public

comment is closed. colleagues can i i'd like to continue this item to the call of the chair and bring it up if we need to can i have a motion. >> so moved. >> motion by supervisor tang we'll take that without objection. madam clerk, any other business before this committee? >> no, mr. chair. >> thanks everyone we're adjourned