ntioned we need to look at the disproportionment it i think some of the things we've tubed is prevention and intervention with the concept when we see that you can when a principle sees they may have to suspend a student if tare call on superintendent trout and kevin and saying we're trying to fought we want to get to prevention and intervention before someone has to call the police so we have a responsibility there are 27 students on the list and to me it seems like that's 27 students that should be getting leave attention one thing we should report on the diversions if tares arrests i don't have the do not we had the data of what

it looks like whalts happening to the young people that's been arrested and know you want to look at diversion where and how are the kids doing i encourage everyone to think we've got to 27 young people here and do this to make sure they get the help. >> thank you for the public comment it is closed questions or comments commissioner shamann walton and then splinz. >> thank you commissioner president murase just a couple of questions looking at battery cases what usually determines whether or not beater versus a regular school fight that explicit involve american people arrest are the police. >> a school fight is handled

that i the school administrator battery when a student happy been hit or punched and most of time wants something done or the parents if it's. >> mature thing it can be handled at the school site level on the an arrest is in the marking two more follow-up questions the recommendation for the development with green booushgz where do wrae stand and where do we stand for the schedule mr. chief and mr. trial court. >> we're trying to set up the training with dr. burk and also the center for wellness is putting a focus group together where. >> couple of officers that work in schools and some of the

housing officers are working together on the curriculum so binge bring outs to the school personnel working with kids that are traumatized with a lot of violence and the effects on the students. >> any timelines when that motive roll out. >> i was hoping awhile going ago it's a great need in light of the last month with the number i have shootings in the community and the number of kids that are impacted with all the violence that is going on in the community. >> we work with c north america deepen with school health programs and burk hayes and we can also as we've done in the past with professional

development we've started the country responses we can invite the officers to ours and work with sliu.s. hearts i said they were having their own professional development with her and the date with the chief schedule days that the superintendent and i and colorado lien and bill sanderson is the day before any real birthday on march 12 march thirteen is any birthday. >> commissioner shamann walton is that - >> splinz commissioner wynns

we've had dense reports things that are not successful to get this in this kind of format i'm interested in the question i've discussed and that is to be what are redoing to collect data about and whatever we're doing to make sure that kids that all students have a apartment with them or sob the administrator was supposed to have an administrator in the school district so no kids are questioned by the police without having an apparent or adult i know that a few years ago you

were not here colleen was getting away from us we failed excuse me. coping up our training e.r. e.r. let it slip a little bit and the school administrators were not comically where the fidelity so. >> i'll let colorado less than talk but meantime there are a police report where the incident report is coming mraeld to the superintendent and whether the secretaries get that report they physically take to any assistant if i'm there i read it i can tell you the last interrogation without a parent was last year

i've not heard of one this year there were several before we were tracking down when the practice was not followed we've communicated that is one the main priorities we're looking to make sure that students are not interrogated without their first name member or if they choose and a family member not there they're given the option of having a school administer present with them for support. >> i want to hear what colorado lebanon has to say but the term interrogation i actually was avoiding using that but what about other students that's one of the things we weren't to careful when people are asking other kids whooped and police

you know we wanted to make sure that things don't accidently happy that no one wants he want to appreciate that the commissioner asked that question that's one the tensions we had at the police department especially, when we had school police officers on the school plus or minus to that but frankly a lot more i think and, i.e. members the school board thought of things unfortunately, that gets into the police arena unintentional i don't think driver's license was an intentions on the part right of officers to crime list behavior it was a culture differs any theory if it happened inside the school on the school grounds up

to the privilege that was up to them to decide whether it rose to the level of a crime outside in of the school it's not our business necessarily though we'll disagree i was for the most part that it is important to make sure we keep those things out of the criminal just system it at all possible. >> nate's that's what we try to do but ofrpts it is a third party or maybe small business in the school staff and principle are police thinks it can be handled in house or if another way the schools hands are tied

especially the criminal threats we need important training to add school personnel and the police officers that's one the benefits of having the police officers in the schools knows which kids may act out or when the kid gets upset it didn't have to be a prison charge we're on the same page by more training on that poise. >> commissioner murphy and commissioner vice president haney. >> thank you for this report i had some follow-up questions to it i want to know do we ever get the number of police reports gets the number of times police

are called to the school that would be helpful to see all at once and also i've been out to the school sites when i've spoken to the school administers they've radical they were hoping that the station captains can work more collaboratively with them if things happy in the neighborhood they're not there the captain didn't include them their notice communication about it there's a big event or something you know and they feel as administers they should be be sure aware ever it to anticipate what's happening in the neighborhood after hours and also on weekends a lack of communication when i was a pta president there was a lack of communication between the police officer and the school sites so

it looks at as though it was years before i was president it was something we can work on better and also we've had a lot of violence in our neighborhoods i know that we enter into this mou in order to handle the predicament and secondary what's the plan outside of school where the families live i feel liquor it is sort of a check list attended and meeting but what happens during the meeting are we working collaboratively as a group and then i also just want to ask if any of the sro's are attended any of the restore practice meetings. >> let me start by answering

the first question calls for service the number of calls for service after a few minutes i'll enter it and i get the mostly report. >> what's nice we check against and own records police call the sites we motive not known of we want to know if a school called the police 15ments over one student why and why is that happening and really the job of the police to play ball with the kid; right? so this is part of our responsibility were clauven and your defined and our defined role you know. >> before i come out with the numbers i will take a look at it oftentimes the calls maybe small business calling if the school

for something that happened after hours or whether there's vandalism not related to the behavior of the student on campus and that's good news so basically the number of reports and the reasons for the call i think that would give us an idea of what we're talking about we should be talking about two in a year you know who i am i don't have an idea. >> i know i'll look at that i have to say with our it department we've worked very hard to get a data collection system in place not only for the reports we give to the board but also to be able to look at what school is having certain attach

of problems and having multiple reports reach out to convene and say we need to check up on the kids so, now worry goable through our prim data warehouses and a new data system in place to add flirlts or sort through the flirlts to collect 9 data we may want to find break it counsel that i time of the day or day of the week that definitely helps you moved in identifying problems before they become for serious. >> we're going to talk about the calls for service we talked about it with lauren also i don't want to set an unreal expectation the number of times where a possible stungs and call and arrest i'm i don't want to

set that unrealistic expectation you'll think those calls are going to be analyzed and see how many are you can't possibly do that it's becoming unwe'd like i have a stack of calls for service on any deck i haven't had the time to categorize them for the report we're busy looking at arrests and spungz so i don't want to set the unrobotic expectation the task force we are going to sit down and look at calls for service and see the best way to collect the information and report back without making is require someone to have it as a full-time job and commissioner vice president haney and commissioner mendoza-mcdonnell.

>> so i believe that. >> the second question around the plan of the community violence. >> i introduce to work i have a hard time with this i meet about the school officers every thursday we trice try to bring in other people to meet with them last week the mayor's prospective team this thursday we're going to have a number from the gang task force and couple of the probation officers to talk about their service and the meeting every other tuesday the school officers are included the department is putting on city-state it's state law the officers that work in plain clothes officers to if you do

what's happening outside to impact our schools you are try to go to the wednesday more than meeting at city hall talking about the shoots in the community and aufrld we'll discuss you know where the greatest tensions are and what we need to do about that i work hard to try to keep any finger on the pulse that's some of the violence love violence in the community we want to try to find out who is doing what and how can they can related to the schools and come up with a plan that's definitely a priority we're i've tried to talk with other stoift whether lieutenants or boyer or mission we talk about daily about can see that

maybe happening to really get a handle on what could happy and again working with the students about what could be and potential for involved in things we'd like them to be but have an idea where the problems are before that he become serious. >> you're developing the plan. >> not developing the plan it is our plan communicating that information back to the school officers and investigation team the new plan beacon hill the new meetings where the citywide units and the sro's are being included identify working with the violence team and that's something happening on a daily basis if we need to last week,

we had the menu task force out there to help with the transportation location or hubs around the school those are things on a daily basis so we're not putting that plan in place it needs to shift the priorities at the time and the priorities to work with cohen with the information he may get and anyone else from the school so we can put the right resources in the right place. >> we have this group of social workers, etc. that are month to month we had a dinner and met at the sausage factory it was great but it was a - we got to sit and talk about immense situations that are happening in some of the neighborhoods and christian put it together and condone use it was attended by a lot of people and it's the first of a

series of meeting we're going to have with when we get together a talk about the tense situation and how the schools are dealing with them some of the things that students bring back to the schools and so that's the first time we've duplicate anything else and colorado lien was with us this is what happens when this comes back into our schools we're having that discusses our next meeting at the civic center coming up in a couple of weeks so - so i'd like to do a little connect with any commissioners after 10:30 commissioners if you have questions or comments of our speakers that can be handled outside and not discussed in debt tonight this is an important subject perhaps

bring that back to the committee and next is commissioner vice president haney and commissioner mendoza-mcdonnell. >> try to be quick i was going to praise you judge a highlight to you thank you four putting the chart up i want to recognize the amount of progress that hats taken place and colorado lien you are in this building with our office we're looking forward to working with you and hopefully over at sfpd recognizing the importance of our role to the district you ronald reagan are all of those we're vice chair for i want to say in terms of a comment is that the deposition is important

to how many of those students are having criminal charges and then ended up in going to y gc do highlighted that as or as the relationship between or responsibility to the students both when we go there and come out and keep an eye towards that and you know without going into it we don't want to have this conversation later but i want to say as by reverend brown we obviously are concerned with the disproportionate it to commit to that and look at that as not the new normal as it is the way it is but do everything we can to aid that that's it that's all i'm going to say thank you for

your presentation and all your work. >> commissioner mendoza-mcdonnell. >> great thank you. >> i had a couple of questions so on the very last page where you have - oh, challenges easier have to improve that on the next steps which is which? so task force composition and is that a challenge or a next step? they're all of them we've had challenges with the task force i could go into it improve the composition the task force and having challenges getting the administrators getting involved that's why i characters it >> i see is that true for all of them.

>> yes. >> i do think that we've experienced a challenge we want to improve that on that and so we have a play in the indexed steps to do that. >> okay and then i wanted to understand for example the incidents that happy at oc or what's the engagement that happens because of the mou in terms of coming out of the acidity and dividing the work or how the respect kind of happens using the mou? >> can you clarify that i don't know what you're asking all when we have an incident at a school for example when a weapon is retrieved is that a call to you and the pd or it falls under one

the categories i'm trying to understand what to my left point does pd come in based on the mou. >> the mou when it's a public safety issue like what happened at o'connell there were two information was forwarded to security yes there was a school officer on site there once that information was out the officer put it out to departure dispatch then i building they were met with school personnel prior to detaining the kid they got descriptions of the subject look with the school personnel the school searched them and began

their investigations so the school officer was obtain site. >> so the communications happy delve so authors it or there's an finding you guys have been called i guess i'm trying to understand any kind of of a miss existence because of the mou process that happens when you guys get called and not being called separately by someone else it is coming from the site both communication and cooperation once you arrive. >> it's the mine piece and you know it went well but there were lessons learners and again in the situations where the students at possibility of a weapon the officers have to respond if a certain manner and

that may not be the same manner where they follow a protocol but the administrators and the security were there at one time we have been knows what everyone was doing a lock-down occurred so if a student a possibility a student has a gun the officer respond and kevin knows that years ago usually the school security or administrator i believe it's so on and actually guides you 80 up to the classroom that's officers on site now with a lot less of officers it maybe from distribution personnel i don't

believe they're aware the mou but the officers in the school program understands a mou everybody is supposed to be trained the officers and all have an understanding of it. >> i may not be a little bit narcosis they should know about the mou the point we need to make sure that the pd is aware of the mou and that our t tens are aware and our personnel are aware the mou i presented to captains and lieutenant they were give him an e-mail when i say they should i know and gave out any responsibility to dismate that information we'll make sure that gets followed up on this is critical if you have cars responding that do know

there's an mou you'll get a different response and any two last comments i'm grateful we participate in the straight violence regular meetings that is really a way to identify if any of the young people or anyone that we're talking about are actually belong to us and enables us to think collectively being what to do next and also grateful that greg excuse me. chief suhr has continued to do his outreach and established emphasis relationships personally and goes out and speaks to the young people about staying in school i wanted to continue to encourage that not only monthd the chief but amongst the officers given the rip relationship piece is