px devices. >> commissioner. regular hearing for february 12, 2015, i'd like to remind members of the public that the commission does not tolerate disruptions of any kind and please silence all electronic

devices. and and when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. i'd like to take roll. >> commissioner president fong and commissioner wu councilmember sharp sxhun commissioner hillis and commissioner johnson and commissioner moore commissioner the items for continuance item one at 1546 on market street draft environmental review continuance for march 25th and next amendments to the planning code for the special use those in lieu of open space work definite continuance and item 3 for x anothers 888 howard street downtown project authorization for indefinite continuance and c

on bush street conditional use authorization is promoted for indefinitely continuance expirations under our discretionary review we've received a request to continue this case dr p at 26 hodges alley discretionary review to march 12. >> is there any additional public comment o on the items proposed for continuance. >> good afternoon. i'm a resident which san francisco i wish to speak an issue it the proposed legislation by jim in the open spaces. >> sir the only thing you can any public comment? to say the continuance itself not the actual legislation

>> my understanding i'm sorry is the commissioners have the option to talk to the turns or actual address the issue underlined. >> they could take up the 345er9 but at this time you can only talk about whether to continue or not continue the matter and i suppose my comments are premature. >> you want us to not continue it today. >> actually, that's quite helpful i mean, i'll strongly ask you to not continue i do so for 3 reasons the excessive. >> that part was it. >> all we're voting on whether or not to take it outside and mare it today or continue it if we take it off you have to we are many public comment. >> i'll vw ask you to discuss the this. >> any public comment on the

items proposed for continuance seeing none, public comment is closed commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i have a couple of questions in regards to item 3888 howard which is the alteration it alteration of the conditions of the existing hotel not constructing another won those are murder together do we have any idea of continuance. >> we're not we're in discussions with the supervisors and the property owners policies and procedures they've asked for a continuance. >> nooiblg i'll ask to continue item one to the date specified and two and three indefinitely and item 4 and continuance and item number one number 14 to march 12. >> a second. >> commissioner johnson.

>> thank you very much okay. so i second the motion and then to the public comment in jeopardy we're not going back and forth the items proposed for turns any time we don't get the materials in our packet for today, if an item is proposed for turns it's hard to pull it off the calendar we only have it not in on the agenda. >> commissioners there is a motion and a second to continue items as proposed. >> commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards commissioner wu commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and places you under commission matters item 5 - >> the television is not working. >> the sfgovtv has some

consists conflicts there are two super seated we're record but not televised their recording us in the back i apologize for the inconstituents convenience. >> commissioners questions or comments. >> commissioner antonini. >> they must be extremely for important if in their superseding us (laughter). >> i was embraced by what we learned paul the captain of the european repaired came up that took part decided to stop at a beautiful beach and park his car and walk up ocean beach to have lunch and came back and broken into his clubs were stolen instead of practicing she she's he's spending all day getting new clubs this is a major

problem in san francisco and the land use part reasons you didn't why families move to other areas is that about crime and the punts are less than i cannot for car thieves get 10 days and that's one the captains from the stations said it's ridiculous and boosters get even less there's no reap not to graek into cars in the daylight he ever your caught you're not going to have nothing done so that's the reason why we're lingus families and prop m 2u for the critique for the memo we got it's not a calendar item he wanted to ask some answers succeeds to be respond to by staff the first i wanted to find there if there's any idea to get

an opinion from the district attorney's office from the part of the office annual limit that are under discussions mr. taylor the intufbt of the amazed u amazes i amounts that have been dmertd to 23407b office use they're not no office anymore and this has to do the demolition the building and the new building you have to take out the new part and not the demolished 0 office space i needed an opinion on those two things thirdly a little trouble parking today, i wants lucky to get a space garage has best practices terminal he ever since puc the spaces are not allocated for puc this is the depay any attention if you don't build parkinson's

people from puc have plenty of cars she should have put parking in the building and many of us in the court house which are not being able to park and have a difficult parking because of our lack of planning and finally i visited summit 8 hundred i toured their units i was impressed but just to give you an idea of the costs involved the unit are from under a million dollar up to $2 million but they're very nicely designed about that minimum of 13 or 14 hundred square feet and up all of them have the master bedroom at least on a different level all two level unit and they have two car parking for each other and most have 2 1/2 with the

you'll the sleeping unit on the upper floor with a choice of condominium sharing the upper floor or row of house and fascinates which i assume are somewhat detached you have to be realistic when we look at projects and people i keep saying you have to build it for less and price 2 lower when the economy at scale their probably selling these things as low as and possible can and they have to build for less if you're doing o a project with if one or two unit you can understand how expensive if you can't spread the psychologist i was happy to see it begins to address some of

the shortages working hard or regarding homes that are acceptable for family that have adequate parking and i think they have a big demand and continue to build all the rest of them commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much so just for the i was reviewing the eir 1546 market street and 1564 market street and just really quickly one the things it is awesome there's a map that shows the project area as well as all the new muni or other picking up public transit stops within a half-mile radius we questioned a map for allocations within the authorization we were looking at for a decision i'd like to request that staff or through the chair request it staff provide a similar map of public transit for all large

projects thoogsz with the map we're currently getting. >> commissioner moore. >> i'd like to report to the commission that the subcommittee for the rules met together for the first time and time was much too short we'll be meeting again on march second and report with more detail. >> march 5th and march 5. >> what did i say oh, march 2. >> thank you for your time on that. >> next item, please. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further we'll move on 0 department matter directors announcements. >> thank you, john good afternoon i was going to mention the memo regarding the prop m the current prop m allocation numbers happy to discuss that further we wanted you to have

the last number the updated listed projects currently in the cue commissioner antonini i don't have a timeline typed we're kind of in a lot of discussions on the issues you're raising and hopefully, we'll be able to come this summer with more details. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. director ram i neglected in my comments the other question i noticed the number of projects that are approved but not been built and probably have discussions on those as we move forward i this think we have a policy after a certainly amount of time with the conceiveness it would be great to have reasons why they're not moving forward. >> that will be part of the discussion when we come back. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further we'll move to that to item 7 review the past events of the board of appeals and historic premise.

>> good afternoon aaron starr in contrast to last week's there's no land use committee hearing and at the full board this week did signed ordinance reasonable accomodation ordinances and article 2 and urban forest plan and the zoning amendment for portland all received their second reading to the mayor's office and the office conversion landmark this supported by supervisor cohen has the interim controls for the mc district west of octavia it passed no introductions. >> next and the board of appeals met last time and 3 items to brief the commission the appeal of the variance letter for 312 green street heard by the doctor dr in on-the-job decided not to take

discretionary review and the board appeal with a 2 to one to uphold they needed 3 votes by default the variance was upheld and the second item is one 25 crown terrace that is an appeal of the board of appeals the permit setting out to change the method of construction when this was before this commission several years ago it was an entertainment commission permit not to be considered demolition as you probably are aware in late december of 2013 there was a cat tra to from the the building shored fell and as per planned the building collapsed they substantially revised the

application the project stayed the same 9 end result the same and the board of appeals they had to remove more of the building to salvage as much of this and demolition under the blad the section deemed this is was anyone centrally not affordable because the seated value the building collapsed the assessment was based on on the assessment of the land and the date of the collapse of the building that exceeded $1.056 million administratively it was reviewed and subject to section 311 no discretionary review filed but an boil last time the broadly uphold that permit and that moved and lastly

over the past few weeks and months an uptick a dwelling unit oftentimes at the board of appeals hearing it is subject to 317 or the mayors directive their single-family dwellings that have a illegal second unit and not subject to the mayor's office executive directive so i wanted to make you aware we've had a couple recently at the board of appeals and let you know that i'll be happy to answer any questions. >> thank you. >> commissioners director ram good afternoon carl president of historic preservation commission thank you for accommodating me on this your own appearance by basically, we only community through letters normally you don't know i don't think the

letters fully describe our backgrounds of discussions and sort of direction we're taking care of talking to i want to come specifically today, we have a policy paper we're going to be voting on between the commission i want to talk about briefly on the draft environmental reviews coming out and he preference alternatives we're seeing more and more of a fruition where the premise is messing with any part of the building is significant we see let's say they'll have one hundred or one hundred and 50 units if there's a building on the property they have to chop the property in half that's from a lack of preparedness we see 1 on pine street they took

out the building they could have put into the facade but some semi ambulances of what that block looked like you've got another project coming up with two towers if they safe any part of the this one tower goes away we want them to build as much as and, and save the significant knows it's frout u frustrating our letters it's touch to go into a full explanation with a preservation in that report so that's why i'm here to say there's a lot more behind it and commissioner president fong and commissioner wu and i were speaking it might be smart to do a check in with each other a

kwliegs of no voting but here's where we are coming from and heres what we're seeing so much development happening from 9 preservation i want to keep some consistency in the city what this places as looked like for so long thank you very much any questions. >> commissioner moore has. >> i wanted to congratulate you for como this commissions this commission has voiced what you're saying a number of times and meet on the terms you're saying i'd be delighted to see you here or in our chambers. >> commissioner johnson thank you for raising our hand. >> i forgot yeah. as a rather dir i see a lot of what you're talking about it's a question for you so ear recommendations address how you get to the preservation alternative before

the environmental team. >> we actually have sat down with ms. jones and director ram and mr. jocelyn and mr. fry and gone though how to communicate this; right? so in this was we're going to be voting on. >> hey just to add to that what was helpful it is helpful for the staff in particular the environmental review staff to understand the commissions concerns then we can communicate those concerns ahead of time to the project sponsor we're not just reacting to the eir but drafting it ahead of 7, 8, 9. >> 2 will think formally drafted as the historic preservation commission. >> commissioner antonini. >> on the same subject we have situations with the project sponsor or the commission has agreed to the preservation

alternative oftentimes the new project isn't not conceptual you're wanting to delineate but sometimes, it's night and day so it's noting other things to throw out to you guys where the projects we're combining the historic elements. >> absolutely understand that's at&t's an issue as a policy on facadeism because they may not agree with the direction the commission is taking so we may want facadeism to save some of the buildings not to knock them over not everyone is going to agree from the preservation community. >> thank you commissioner richards. >> i'm completely glad you're here i hope we have a meeting to understand what you folks do to

date i've only been here 6 months what's going here so i think a little bit more it makes sense on the time you go on the hpc how many times after the eir is completed how many times it was actually taken the alternative. >> no, we render an opinion to be honest, i don't follow it there are only certain projects i've been 2, 3, 4 contact with the sponsor ask them to please try to save this portion of the building. >> i think it's important i guess i'll ask staff are you aware you how many the preservation all of the elements have been choun. >> no mr. fry a holding you zero. >> that's a track record you're keeping track of that when you

get to one let us know i'm sympathetic with you i saw the 5 m and what it looks like the preservation is doable to see if it gets done. >> we're happy to work with folks i know i help them draft because 5 m we're going to lose the whole feeling of the alley; right? >> appreciate the usual work you're doing. >> commissioner moore any public comment? i'm glad this is happening with the one sloth it's important i want to acknowledge the professional qualifications this group has it stakdz up high >> where i was on the 4ru8d preservation committee this is the most depth of

professionalism we have so thank you all right. that's correct very much we'll see you soon thank you. >> commissioners that places you under general public comment is closed. commission on items of interest injured with respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission for up to 3 minutes. image i have a couple of speaker cards we'll see. >> police and steve. >> the subject matter is 460 fulsome if you want to speak to that matter this is the time. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is a list i'm a resident on district 6 i'm here to speak on behalf of as well as many other residents

xhukd dave osgood in the rincon hill neighborhood group i'm here to raise our awareness of the serious concern that involved block 6 part of the transit district plan the exact address 160 fulsome adjacent to the track bay terminal building across main and spear street the bidder has submitted a proposal for the height limit to be increased from three to four hundred feet the additional 1 hundred feet is against the transit center district plan of which it took a good five to six years to come into play we're concerned this approval will be considered a spot zoning and

sets is precedent for the zones to ignore the city lots we're here to raise our attendance to this matter and it's serious concern amongst the groups we have 8th washington and 45 howard and other buildings where the warriors stadium was being built and many other buildings under review from the planning commission thank you for your time. >> my name is steve i'm here to speak is to the same issue i'm concerned about the 160 fulsome project we believe that shadows blocking natural sunlight in the parks is an issue and the additional one hundred feet of height is not in

the contemplated eir significant increases in shadows will dictate even the rincon hill park and the new park in the transit eir it took seven years to develop the transbay plan and to make it a law we now have a developer attempting to buy illegal height everyone wants to address affordable housing issues truly effective issues this is not the right way transbay has an affordable housing housing ratio at 45 percent that's at better than the 33 percent the briberyy under does the good work you do and not have another manhattan in san francisco i'm asking to support blocking this extra one hundred feet it didn't do