myself as a mother -- how this is so important in all of the conversations happening in the meetings at cpac so that definitely brought more interest to me. i am a mother of two beautiful boys. i have -- my six year old is part of the school district in emently and my youngest is going to a co-op in a private preschool i have dealt with the challenges and the successes with child care and i have been a big advocate for my children. i have a child that went through the process and transitioning to a different program with the school district and i have gone throughout navigation of the system and it's a challenge and being that i know -- i can be an advocate

and i know about my rights and how to navigate the system a little more it brought to my attention well how can i give back and support parents that don't have -- you know, they don't have the background in the field or they don't know, and they need that extra support, and i think this is the way that i could give back to families a little more and bringing that knowledge and making sure their voices are being heard and up front. a lot of times when there's policies and there are regulations sometimes the outcome which is always the focus of the paren -- parents and what the outcome is and the needs and it could be watered down at times and i want to make sure that the voice of parents is always up front. when there is a decision making and process at cpac that we're thinking about that outcome first and how do we navigate the policies and regulations so i think it's

key. i want to be able to accomplish in that time if i am appointed to make sure that the priority is to communicate to parents any decision making and changes that happen and how can we make it user friendly, easier for families to access quality child care and early education and i thank you for that and i look forward to working with cpac. >> thank you very much and i am happy to be supporting you coming in. one of the issues that is really strong or a major issue in the district is space for child care. we have a lot of family day care providers but we have a real shortage in space for center based care and i am hoping we can work closely together to bring that to the level of city hall's attention that we have a very large 0-5 population in district 11 but we don't have the space that is

needed so i hope we can work together on that. >> yeah, i look forward to that and especially in the position as a parent looking for child care and the work that i do. i know the data and the challenges. there is not enough supply for the amount of children 0-5 so there is definitely work to be done there. >> thank you for representing -- for wanting to be on cpac. >> yes, i feel honored. >> all right. any member of the public that would like to comment on this appointment? please come forward. >> good morning supervisors. i am erica maybellm and work with the child care planning and advisory council and i am here to speak on behalf of cpac and district 11 candidate claudia quinonez. she is being considered under the consumer child care services -- in other words a parent or guardian and across the state this is the hardest seat to fill. as

claudia mentioned she attended several meetings just as a community member. she articulated much of what i wanted to highlight today but i can say that not only am i confident she will bring her experience as a parent of two young children, her familiarity of a parent and the understanding of challenges of immigrant families and the role as resource manager. she talks everyday. she talks to parents and works and hears from to connect families trying to figure out the best child care resources and programs for their families. claudia will bring the strong voice as a parent and as a member of cpac she will be a tremendous asset. because of the role she will be a conduit to bring the perspective and

share any changes she hears from parents across the city. i am absolutely confident that claudia will be a great fit and i thank you for your consideration for the district 11 seat today. >> thank you very much and thank you for working with claudia to come forward with her application. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> okay. seeing no other member of the public come forward on this item we will close public comment. [gavel] and colleagues could we have a motion to -- >> so moved -- i move to move claudia quinonez for seat one for the child care planning and advisory council to the full board of supervisors. >> and i would like to second that motion. >> seat 11. >> i'm sorry. seat 11. >> thank you. and colleagues we can take that without objection. >> perfect. >> okay. [gavel] next item please. >> item two is a hearing to consider appointing one member term ending february 1 2017 to the park, recreation and open space advisory committee. there is one seat and one applicant. >> okay. we have one seat,

one applicant. molly park for seat four. >> good morning supervisors. my name is molly park. i am here today to apply for the position in the park, recreation and open space advisory committee in the sunset district. thank you. i apologize for my nervousness. i am here to apply for the park, recreation and open space advisory committee district 4 position. i am excited to be here today as a representative of the sunset community. i decided to apply for this position and become involved with the parks and recreation committee. previously i was attending as a community member for the meetings and i work for the public trusts land and a parks conservation known nationally and known for the park space development. i was hoping to get more involved in the activities that i have lived

in the sunset community and this committee to me really does represent how the neighborhood members can have a voice and the development of open space and the activities that are brought to the community members. how we can all participate and have a closer knit community with more resources for each other. i hope to bring some of the voices to the committee about the issues as a resident -- as a female resident in the neighborhood i think that we're hoping to have more safety and more concerns addressed with open space issues as we have continued population growth in the area, and that we will continue to have support of supervisors on protecting our public space. thank you. >> thank you. any questions or -- okay. thank you for your presentation and your interest in the seat and he we will open

it for -- we will open it up for public comment. please come forward. >> good morning supervisors. i am nick belonnie, the other district 4 rep. i have seen her at meetings and i believe she will be an asset to the committee and i wanted to point that out for the record. >> fantastic. thank you. >> no problem. >> seeing no other member of the board we will close public comment and this item is open. >> thanks. through the chair i am happy to have appointed and selected ms. park. her last name is park to the park recreation and open space advisory committee. i can't think of a more perfect person for this role. not only just in her professional role but really genuinely expressing an interest participating in the meetings even before being appointed to the committee and i had a really good conversation with her prior to the appointment and i look forward to working with her in this capacity so i would like to appoint molly park to the seat

four of the park, recreation and open space advisory committee and forward it to the full board with recommendation. >> second that motion. >> okay. motion and seconded by supervisor cohen and colleagues we can take that without objection. [gavel] very good. congratulations. if we could call the next three items together, four, five, six -- three, four, five. >> these are motions approving or rejecting the nominations of andrew wolfram, richard johns and karl hasz to the historic preservation commission for those seats. >> great. we will take these items in order. i believe all of the reappointment folks are here and start with wolfram and go on to public comment after each presented. welcome. >> thank you supervisors. my name is andrew wolfram and i am

up for seat two historic architect position and we preserve historic buildings in san francisco because they really help create places that have aws then tissity and character and i have spent my entire professional career working on projects that have help knit the city together. i had a leadership as an architect on a very large complex project as the renovation of the ferry building and the old telephone building that yelp has as its headquarters and worked with the historic preservation preservation and an association a raising the importance of preservation and its role to help create community. i have also through my professional career realized that it's a very -- planning and preservation issues in the city are really complex and important to balance a lot of competing interests to understand what is the best way

to move forward. on my terms in the historic preservation commission that's some of the things i am most proud of that i believe the commission is a very reliable and redistrictable body. applicants coming before us know they will be treated fairly; that the outcome is one that is very understandable to them. i am also proud of some of the landmark distribution s that -- designations and including several areas in the city and in the sunset district and we're looking at all parts of the city are represented in the landmarks program. in my next term i hope to continue with our reliable and redistrictable and understandable process and i would like to focus on raising knowledge and awareness about historic resources in the city, and we can achieve that partially by -- if we focus on

a survey of the city of the entire city we have an understanding of what are all of the historic properties in the city. that would be helpful to the planning process especially to homeowners and property owners and developers if they understand when purchasing a property what its designation is whether it's considered historic or not it's going to be an extremely tool and so they don't have to hire a consultant and go through a long and arduous process. if we get information out front that would be useful and if we had an earkt or disaster important to have the survey and all of the documentation would be a helpful tool in a post recovery in terms of historic resources. i would like to focus on more interpretation and education for the public both for residents and visitors so there is a better signage program about

historic buildings and landmarks that we have a tools and website and good to promote it to the city at large and the tourists and visitors and what makes san francisco great. i am here for any questions. >> thank you. colleagues any comments or questions? probably a couple of points i will ask all of the applicants what is your familiarity with the city wide resources study? >> i am familiar with kind of all aspects what is happening in planning. the city wide resource study is something i'm not actually familiar with that particular document. >> okay. it's recommended by heritage and spur -- >> i'm sorry. that's the survey i was talking about. i thought you were talking about a previously done -- >> [inaudible] >> yes, that's what i am promoting is something that i think we should do.

>> excellent. and then what do you think how well the historic preservation commission has done on being consistent with its rule ?tion. >> i think it's done a good job at being consist afternoo i -- consistent most are unanimous and it's rare that an applicant has a surprise when they get to the commission and something happened unexpected so they're pretty predictable and consistent. >> so there might be differences where you have a ruling on one property and opposite on another. do you see that? >> no. that would be pretty unusual. >> okay. and there's -- are you familiar with some of the controversy around the academy of arts university? >> a little bit. they have not come before us with any applications but yes, i am aware of that. >> do you have any specific

goals that you have in mind in looking at we're able to preserve property any way when it comes to a property -- i know the academy of arts -- [inaudible] >> if they're landmarked or resources we're always looking for them to follow codes and the preservation codes so that would be my goal is that they meet all applicable codes and guidelines. >> so one is -- i think there has been property that has been tenant oriented property, rental property that has taken off the market and applied more for students at the university. do you see that as an issue? >> it could be an issue and we have been working with the planning department to have additional enforcement because we're sort of at the front end of the entitlement process but what happens later it's difficult for the planning department to do enforcement of what is actually done so they

add staff to do additional enforcement and that would help that the owners and what they say they're doing they're actually doing. >> i think many people in san francisco want to know how to preserve housing for san francisco residents and not cutting that for other purposes as well. >> i agree with that. thank you. >> supervisor cohen. >> my comments are broad and not just to you but the other two. first i want to acknowledge and say thank you for the work that you have already done on the historic preservation particularly helping me protect pdr space within district 10. specifically you may recall the two henry adams. it was a pretty significant controversial issue that really i think has an opportunity to change what san francisco looks like, so the preservation of the businesses is very important. the other thing i want to acknowledge and

your willingness to meet with constituents. often i direct people to speak to you directly. some of you have been helpful and taking the meetings and listening to some of the concerns even if it means rehearing an issue that your body had made a determination on prior. also one of the things that's very important to me is maintaining not just the understanding the historic -- maintaining and preserving the historic structure of a building but paying close attention to the cultural contributions that the communities have contributed to san francisco and recognizing it and for example sam jordans has been designated as a historic resource and i think you were in on that decision and significant to the african-american community and i want to continue in that vain and recognize and landmark buildings that have that level

of historic value. now at the time african-americans and probably many of the minority communities were not necessarily building them and few were born in the buildings so i am looking for more like the elastic clause and the definition of what is, what demonstrates and what is historic relevance so you have done a fairly good job and i hope if you're repointed you will move in that direction and as san francisco gets older looking how the lgbt community has contributed and pacific islanders. there's a lot of cultures not recognized in san francisco and i want to continue to work with you on that. >> thank you. >> thank you. we will go on to the next reappointment person. >> good morning supervisors. my name is richard johns. i

have been renominated for seat four the historian seat on the historic preservation commission. although under the charter the historian is to be -- the seat is to be an historian with specialized interest in the history of the san francisco bay area region i believe that as a result of the unhappiness over the last appointment the state -- not only the court of appeals and the attorney general have i believe laid that to rest. i have been active in preservation in san francisco and in the history of the city for at least 25 years. i am an active member of the california preservation foundation. in the last term that i just finishing there are

certain things which really i'm quite proud. one of them has been touched on earlier, and that is when i joined the commission there was a great deal of rancor. that has virtually disappeared. we are as commissioner wolfram said decisions are now over 99% of the time unanimous, and this has the wonderful effect of allowing both sponsors and opponents of projects to have a clear understanding of where we are likely to go on any project. it is allowed the staff to be able to predict and therefore better advise both proponents and objectors to projects. our hearings are usually quite efficient. i believe that it has been a tremendous benefit.

the public frequently finds historic preservation commission a mysterious operation. i took the lead role when we revised our rules of procedure. the working title of that document for me was how to succeed at historic preservation commission? they are now clear. they are now very transparent. we have told people in those rules how they should present what they're going to present, so they give us not a lot of extraneous stuff. it gives the commission the facts that it needs in order to render a decision that they would like us to render. we can't always say that everybody gets what they want, but i believe everybody feels they have gotten a fair

hearing. in the last two years we've started to focus on cultural assets. president hasz made a committee and i am not on the committee and perhaps i will be but i attended every session of the committee and attempted to fill in what the supervisor cohen may have been referring to is we need some elasticity because many ethnic groups that had a substantial contribution to san francisco didn't build the buildings and they rented and moved from place to another place and their contributions are vital and we need to address them and i suggest we do this by expand our website so people that want to find out about these things have an easy way

to find out about them, so i hope to participate in that committee in the future. i think that another thing that we must do is expand our outreach to the community so that everybody knows what benefits historic preservation can have for them and their property, so that we eliminate the greatest extent possible uncertainty and in connection with that you mentioned the city wide survey. it is enormously important because if we don't know what we have we cannot intelligently move to protect it, so i hope i've answered what questions you have. i did submit a number of letters of support from all aspects of the community, and i hope that you will consider those and vote favorably on my reappointment. >> great. well thank you for your presentation and you did

touch upon some of the questions i have but i will ask a couple follow up questions and supervisor cohen can ask questions as well. let's have hen human go first. >> i want to. >> >> >> i want to acknowledge i was a new supervisor and one of the controversial votes to support you and happy to support you today. i am glad we worked through the fears that other people had in your nomination and ultimate with the confirmation of you to this body so i think that's a testament to you and your professional employ and i appreciate the comments about the cultural aspects and the significance to san francisco. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. i did ask a couple of questions of mr. wolfram and wondered if you could respond too. if touch upon the resources, the study but what about the question of

consistency when you see the historic preservation commission has been inconsistent in terms of its principles to one side. do you think that's an issue or it has happened before? >> if we have been here two years ago i would say that was a very serious issue but it's not two years ago. it's now and we don't have those problems. in the past people had an entirely unhealthy interest in other guy's issues. they wanted to redesign projects on the fly and that lead to i think chaos for everybody and that doesn't happen anymore. we have tried to be extremely consistent and predictable. >> that's great to hear. could you give examples what happened as of two years ago? what were some of the issues? >> yes, one of the ugliest ones -- well, there was the redesign on the fly of what

used to be the uc extension center where the windows kept getting moved around which is -- i thought was bizarre. we had a particularly difficult meeting when it came to the opera house and what would be done there because the veterans and the trustees of the opera house had been fighting since 1932 over that that building, and the commission was faced with trying to attempt to make changes in the design when we had warring factions in front of us which is no way to try and deal with as important a resource as civic center, so those are just two examples. i doubt either of those would happen today. you did mention the academy of arts. the academy of art and its

approach to housing and land use is all over the lot, but we really deal with the exteriors of buildings, preserving buildings, and changes to them in historic districts or when they're landmarks and those issues haven't come before us because whatever they do behind closed doors over there they seem to keep the outside of their buildings in pretty good condition. now it's a real problem. it's really more for the city planning or enforcement agencies, but they have treated the exteriors of their buildings in a way that has kept them from our purview, so it's a problem, but it's not one that that our commission deals with, and i will tell you supervisors i am

very leery -- i think we should push historic preservation as far as we reasonably can push it, but if we start to encroach on commissions or departments and try to expand our territory i think it's bad. it's bad because we don't have the expertise in land use planning to make the kind of policy decisions that i think supervisor you have alluded to with the academy of art. it's a problem but doesn't deal with that. >> you don't see an intersection with historic preservation and the historic use of a building has been? >> if a question -- if it's an eir or a problem with the historic use of the building, yes, we can sometimes get into that if there is a permit to

alter that is being raised, but many of those buildings were always residential buildings, and they continue to be residential, but of a different kind than in the past, but we don't -- unless they want to alter the building it doesn't come before us, so we don't have the opportunity to be able to do anything to preserve the use of that building. that kind of preservation is really within the purview of other departments and they have the staff and ability to go in and find out the extent to which they are altering the use of that building and then there are rules that prohibit that, but normally it doesn't come before us unless they want to do something with the structure. >> well there is an aspect of historic preservation that looks

at neighborhoods and what neighborhood character has been. i would think that a building that has high occupancy of tenants that is converted to something that is not tenants but more dormitory space or that has been an issue with [inaudible] with our university has jurisdiction -- the historic preservation commission could have jurisdiction over that or make a statement about that. >> yes, it could have jurisdiction but what triggers the jurisdiction is if they want to alter the building in some way. >> got it. >> then it comes before us -- >> it's not -- >> -- doesn't get in the front door so we can't act on it. however there are some times and i worked with supervisor cohen on this when we thought we were positively lied to over henry adams and what they were going to do and what