communication there's one card tom are you still here okay any public comment on this item? okay public comment is closed. let me start off with a couple of thoughts it is interesting that what i think is most interesting information items there's usually no public comment but (laughter) this one is possibly out of the reports and packet we get the most important and the most comprehensive it looks at trams and housing thank you for putting this together the entire team to me with the 2007 and this year's report has a pretty good baseline and getting a better baseline what we want to see in the next report a few years from now it was mentioned some miss matches and barriers here

and i think from at least my prospective and the commissions prospective 23 we can identify those miss matches we'll make bettered informed decisions and being latter soft or strong commissioner richards relations e.r. mentioned in a comment about market rate housing and what's the balance are we offer ballot things about office allocations and the 3 legged stool and the affordable housing and job creation i'm interested to see and the gentleman mentioned the next steps but really where we take this data and digest it now we've got to here and make a plan of action going forward to try to bring other groups that have stake and hue to get them on board at least 80 percent to say the r

right direction so i'm curious to hear with the other commissioners say and commissioner antonini. >> very interesting report very well done i want to comment when we were talking about how to work with businesses and individuals it help them with their needs it's important it is on existing recipe and businesses we have to outreach throughout the drive ccii or the world to businesses that might not be here what can we had to get them here i remember i was talking to a hotel chain wanted to get them here in san francisco there are many businesses that people in san francisco will drive long distances to get to they don't have to care if they drive to palo alto or other places they

like the particular business and that's true of businesses located everything else we have to be supportive of what we could get in the future to improve our economy and stop people from spending money outside of san francisco and you know most businesses would love to be in san francisco with very an adversarial relationship we have to weigh that one thing disturbing about the survey 75 percent of those surveyed want side business climate was average or terrible in san francisco we have to find out why and then went into the various factors that people said were barriers for them being

here one would assume are often the reasons although sometimes several reasons they don't necessarily mentioned when you talk about the quality of life many people don't want to have businesses here they have to deal with undesirable factors homelessness is a problem but seems most noticeable in san francisco compared to other parts of bay area in my opinion and some of the other anti social activities on san francisco students you have to step ero e over or avoid to get to work we have to be frank what are you talking about but in terms of the tangible things the good news are controlable echo tax and licensing the various things in san francisco we in a minute want to change those but

within our control we've done a little bit already the cost of rental space is something we can control if we start to think logically about the ability to build new spaces in san francisco in the 80s there was a boom and unfortunately, we passed legislation that made it impossible to enough office space to match the demand to they respect to suburban parks this was cheaper to build and bart and other things being established they were able to attract businesses simon's sometimes reluctantly and the existing office space skyrocketed we were not creating things we're in the same situation builders want to be building and employees often live here already we could do

ourselves and others by providing office space for the commuters because many if i remembered would rather be in san francisco or at least high percentages of their employees would be relocated here he we have to look at the problem and pass whatever measures net necessary and not shoot ourselves in the foot when we're on the verbiage or vergo of success by making those restrictions and even the housing restricted 23 we work with other agencies in the bay area for transit solutions such as a second bart other things that will bring san francisco the natural center for businesses business unfortunately, he even it outlizing areas near san francisco are expensive but notice ably less than san

francisco not everyone who works here will be able to work here we want to build as much affordable housing here because people prefer to else here goss close to their jobs and middle-income or upper middle-income housing people leaf san francisco because of other factors it is a quality of public schools because of the lack of larger housing so those are things we have to work on to meet those problems what of the also very disappointing was the retail industry record a very low attraction level retail is another leg of the business community we didn't emphasis but

people historically come to shop they come for the uniqueness of the product they can go to other areas but see the same stores if you want to go to a really exclusive high-end or valencia or other stores that's a san francisco experience we have 80 be supportive of retail obviously that group feels the climate is not very good for them and the good news was i think remaining the employees is not a problem because people want to be in san francisco there's culture activities there's educational there's health and entertainment activities and it makes a place for people to live and work of they don't work they can avail

themselves of those things that's why we see a booster in attendance when the giant had a ball park it was easier than driving out to candle stick and maybe the same when the warriors the concert attendance will be attractive so the other thing i think you need to look at is ac businesses that used to be in san francisco bay and in the bay area but others what were the real factors that drove you out of san francisco that will be instructive that will keep frifrmz firms from leaving i've dubbed i talked about the quality of life with transit there's not a restriction

caltrain and all those transportations moves individually and no one saying what's the best way to bring rapid transit to the be richmond district should we tunnel through the roads nobody is thinking thinking outside the box but that that really has to happy happen so it's a good report i see that need to be worked on and if we address the different things i've talked about today and the other commissioners will bring up we'll reach laugh of our problems we have to stop the eludes there's a lot of things in san francisco the people that live here now are us and anybody

who want to live here is them there's an ann attaching between people that want to live in the city we should welcome people to san francisco and try to figure out the best ability to match up residents with the jobs or create jobs that will you know be good for the residents that you know want to live here and see if it works i think the forces are already here everything is in motion we have to harness those and treat them in the right way instead of antagonistic in prison to the newcomers have show you bad people because they're new that's not how things are thank you. >> commissioner johnson. >> thanks yeah. a couple of things thank you

a wonderful presentation just a couple of quick things i appreciate you preempted my applaud i do for the transit program and also for how the development of commercial large-scale faces in the southeast is going to change the valuation or where the waste levels are you appreciate you preempting me i'll keep it short one thing i've heard have those four or five items this is the infrastructure piece i want to hang on that for a second and plug yet another thing the development agreement i feel there are many elements about keeping businesses especially businesses service entities like nonprofit and resident in san

francisco that are connected to real estate and land use but not directly related to the structure of a building or what kind of a building which is where we ofrmentd that's our value the tool we have i think you can use the development agreements to encourage what you want to see the space for smaller companies spates for nonprofits space for neighborhood surveying services we talk about the academies one of the things i'll plug that hope sf is those soft academies and other sorts of city provided services are effective when their near the people and hope sf is in toddler

services are in the middle how to integrate that into other housing or larger community that are being built how the are not sf we don't have control over we can talk about that development agreements because we can't matt haney make it known you have to have those neighborhoods that's not the best approach but look at the projects here's the elements that make it a successful community and use the agreement is to get there than rather than trying to legislate everything i want to make a plug again you know going off the idea the the agreement is a way to get the type of groethsd in the community i definitely saw in the report it was interesting not preempt commissioner

richards comments people's 3 i talked about this we want to see more bill income jobs you can't have a successful communicated with such a you know double barrel sort of handle shaped economy you're not going to have success things will fall apart and one way to get them i saw in the report you need to start having companies st. paul in here, yes you start off with the high wage and the higher educational jobs with you as the companies grow they start to need more in case jobs that was interesting in the report and again use the environment agreements to help the companies you have the natural wage groektd growth over a cycle rather than market rate the

different types of zoning and you want to encourage that sort of natural cycle of the growth and the companies i appreciated the point and again my comments are short you preempted my comments about the economy so thank you very much. >> i want to thank everyone for the report i wanted to ask on this chart if we could see the raw numbers of the job increases in those 4 areas from 2004 to 2010 it doesn't have to be now. >> we certainly can do that commissioner and you think 24 has in the report the total number of jobs but specifically in 2004 through 2010 and looking and goals in 2007 especially around the inclusion and equity i think in many ways

we've not xhufd that goal especially the chart that shows the high and low income i think one thing in conclusion we focus on booster the local industries it was in the conclusion but more effort on the sort of industries and not only pdr but construction i saw real estate i saw a number of different areas it is not only one slice but everything that is surveying and the chart that shows the wages co-relating to education that's where we have the opportunity to get better wages to people that don't have the education. >> also in our concludes you've talked about the role of costs difficulties around the location of small businesses and profit

in san francisco right away right now, i'm encouraged by itself work we're doing only legacy businesses some of the possibility of allowing the right for a lot of business owners to buy their retail spaces or that line of thinking has been strong i hope we can continue to look in that direction i'm interested in what commissioner johnson had to say whether or not the multiplier works i see the diversity in income maybe the longer than businesses stay here the longer than people in the businesses their wages increase and start to earn more of a middle-income wage we want to bebe careful

because just because we have all those jobs the wage increases come with it so what are the multipleer. >> commissioner richards. >> actually, i had to scratch my head when talking about proposition i sorry i'm offering coming a cold this is just gotten lost and showing you somehow we can publish we'll do a great service to the city this is refreshingly truth you're calling a spade and spade those are inheckling the growth with the 7 actuaries we have the 7 the two big ones are the real estate and the omaha with the balance of affordable housing to the jobs i think you know it looks like

jobs are shrinking and so i heard a dump bell critic called the downtown hole in the middle i don't time to have the city become a tale of two cities it is extremely rich or not rich we have a disconnect between housing we approved a housing elements being recommended called for 51 percent of affordability and all new destruction yes week and week we fool ourselves are the affordable rated every time we approve a housing let's not fool ourselves whatever we come up with the go mayor's office of housing he helps to move the needle towards the economy in

all sectors and become balanced i think the jobs maturityer is an interesting one it came from a large tech company we have that struggler we struggle with the services we wanted to have here in the city the services with the $35 an hour plans on staying here we were constantly going out domestically like 2r0i9 aiken ken where the wages are lower they have a great workforce but one thing that go out with the jobs in the wage was turn offer we have the jobs but people are struggling to existing here and a high turnover forget it we have to have this activity somewhere else and to commissioner antonini's comment on prop m to

my knowledge the first time we're hitting the cap is coming up we've noting been preventing office space from being built we don't have the cap once we figured out the criteria we'll have a balanced view of things very good work i appreciate thank you. >> commissioner hillis i second my fellow commissioners we hear a lot of that anecdotally every week but the information behind it in a factual way a question for the gentleman he was getting to the concludes that are here and i agree with commissioner richards there's a couple we're not quite meeting the infrastructure cabinet but many cost money especially in affordable housing and the cost is staurlg high increasing job

training and transit infrastructure are huge amounts but it didn't seem like the economic and little city is growing director ram noticed not a lot of people satisfied with high taxed so how do you fund those were does the funding come from is there an opportunity to increase revenue sources and taxes in the city to help pay for the city's needs we identify and you identified them i think human resources there's a lot in that question i think what i take it in a couple of different pieces going back to the sort of 2007 report number 3 of the priorities of

why we do economic development strategies to make sure that the city has a stronger footing this is not my area of expertise but the city is near the high district is in order for us to be able to fund our priorities the city needs to have a strong economy to fund those things and get to many of the commissioners points of inequality having the resources gives us the ability to tangible those challenges as we face the challenges is there too much economic growth issues having that economic growth gives us the income to tjpa those the cities that don't have the resources to tackle the

resources so i think your question about you know other opportunities to bring more money into the fold to tackle transportation i think about one of the housing recommendations and certainly today look at a fund to support affordable housing development in the city i think we're we've seen the type of fwifg that unhappiness within the tech community and other philanthropic community to tangle the fundamental challenges that i see effectively the city's economy i leave the question for more taxation to policy holders in some cases to prove that but a fair amount of resources going

going into tangible those and the resources that our department has to table those resources makes a difference. >> what we see that market rate housing which say we focus on that like show you that will solve or effect the problem whereas we can generate revenue from market rate housing not a ton to help affordable housing but often miss the broader picture if we are going to fund affordable housing or transit at the level we need to fund it to make an impact it has to go beyond the impact fees to a broader you know bond or parcel tax kind of taxes in order to do

it i don't think focusing on market rate housing is ever going to be enough to solve some of the protons we have that's what we tend to focus on it is good to get a bigger picture you know in the issues of the potential funding. >> okay. >> commissioner wu. >> i just wanted to add on some things i think the planning department staff to a lot so that this report when we were looking want housing elements a couple weeks ago there were a lot of questions on jobs and housing i think that generally i guess i have the suggestion we try to incorporate this data or work closely with oewd with the housing work i know we've got the industry report this report really starts to answer a lot of questions we start to have and

the second thing on this question of the local surveying businesses say there any kind of planning code co-relation we have so many types of businesses are there certain ones that fall skwairl within the city and make that easier for those types of businesses to succeed. >> commissioner johnson commissioner johnson commissioner hillis i agree with a lot of the questions and issues about financing this goes beyond oewd co-show write use the financing in the district in sort of a way to get at the tax parcel idea we're talking about

going to get it through all the impact fees i'll keep saying this so just wanted to say that real quick and, sir real quick you're the only one that had a. so - >> yeah. i can answer questions. >> you miss public comments i don't know if there was anything to address add to the conversation. >> i mentioned public comment i appreciate i was interested in the transmitted capacity that's certainly very much on our minds at bart seeing the growth in downtown we need the infrastructure to support that we're nearly at the point unfortunately we are going to have to start commenting on the irs on the downtown business project we can't bring people

through the embarcadero station or montgomery station unless we make investments the infrastructure discussion is a good one and we talked about how to talk about more together the city has been reluctant to invest in bart capacity we have the impact development fees on the development we've had that not a penny to bart for the capacity we used all the capacity when used when we bought the bart system we have to now pay for it and fourth a woo i understand there is runthd user reluctant continues if we did a bridge toll and really investing that p there