die and we've taken the entertainment to the streets. there is a third friday of the month where we have music, kids activities and performance and all kinds of things that we think appeal to the local community to come out and enjoy the community. we do this in a couple of blocks. we have events on adjacent called mandel plaza for the bayview house parking lot on the other size where we need more room. that's kind of our general area of holding events and it's become very small non-profit and become quite a burden to deal with all the permits not just from the entertainment commission and everybody, it's an enormous amount of paperwork and we have more than one a month and the fees are just killing us

and we are trying to negotiate with the department so we can get an annual permit so we don't have to get all this paperwork and pay less money for it. once we reopen we have an entertainment license for the inside of the bayview opera house. not too sure if that covers the outside. i was under the impression that maybe not. i'm not sure if we want the outside for the community space we want to be using that quite a bit. so that's basically my request. >> if i might just add because the agenda didn't indicate that the application has come to us right now requesting 8:00 a.m. to 11 :00 p.m. for amplified sound. so you need to take that into consideration given the request for could -- for a year long

permit without any clarity to me at least on the permit as to which days and then you know, again this is very very broad request for amplified sound outside. this doesn't mean you can't be clear with the requestment this is a little out of the ordinary for us but as you can see in her explanation why we are trying to facilitate using the blunt tools that we have. if you can work something out in the motion it would be helpful so we can issue a permit under your direction. >> this is a time what she's been applying for each time. so the time is different now. so the request is a lot different than what was issued before, correct? >> well, our events generally do not go until 11:00 p.m.. that would be a very rare occasion. but when

we are applying for that one event, there may be a day it's 11:00 p.m.. generally it's 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.. we've never gone to 11 p.m. :00 p.m. in the past. >> what i see is 1159 :59 p.m.. >> there is a second page which is the actual permit itself although you might ask for clarification. i'm not sure what that is. if it ends at 10:00 p.m., that would be fine. we would never leave past that. >> going with outside noise or amplified sound outdoors past 10:00 p.m. is a typical. it sounds like a typical for you anyway. >> very much so. >> any other questions?

commissioners? >> when you have gone late into the evening with sound, i'm not really familiar with what kind of residential impact that might have and what residences are around you. >> there is not that many. there is one senior housing complex and there are few apartments that are like above stores. there is a lot of unoccupied dilapidated spaces. in the future that's probably going to change but not within the years timeframe. not very many residences. >> when you put up your speakers are they out towards those residential areas. >> on third street we are on the opera house towards face street. on the plaza it's usually one way or the other parallel to third street. each event is kind of different in its set up. >> you see any residents from

where you are in view of the homes? >> there is a few on third street >> have you ever gotten any complaints? >> never. never with the seniors either and we do a lot of outreach. we let people know so they know what's going on and sometimes in close streets we do outreach for that so they know what we are doing and they come out and party with us. >> the only kind of friendly amendment that i would make and it sounds like you are okay with this is to adjust the permit end time until 10 :00 p.m.. >> that would be fine. >> anything else, commissioners? >> okay. have a seat and

we'll have the officer come up. >> good evening, i'm officer ramirez from bayview station. i myself have worked with barbara on all events. cooperative, responsive. no problems. the community is totally in agreement with this. all i ask is that she continues to doing what she's doing and work together and be responsive. any questions? >> i guess eye -- i have a question around the 8:00 a.m. event. most events i know start no earlier than 10 :00 a.m.. >> that's probably she just sets up early on certain events, but it's not like, the third event starts usually at 3:00 p.m. and always ends by 8 :00 p.m.. >> okay. then i kind of

wonder why it's necessary to start the permit at 8:00 a.m.. >> some of her larger events like christmas, winter wonderland have snow. it's probably for the set up. >> i had run an event that closes the street at 3 :00 a.m. and the sound doesn't start until 10:00 a.m.. we may want to consider, i guess, i'm sorry? >> 10:00 a.m. start time is fine? okay. i just want to make sure there isn't undue, you know, we are not extending the permit beyond what is actually needed. >> commissioner frost, it sounds like every time they come to you to get the permit. they are trying to stop having the do that. would it be beneficial for you adding this permit to go on a monthly calendar sent to you.

you being bayview station? >> yes. she does again always tell us any unscheduled updated, she always updates us with events that are going on. i'm sure she'll continue to. >> okay. thank you. >> okay. >> any public comment? >> okay. can the applicant come back up. it sounds like you have a great relationship working with the police department. would you have any problem with us adjusting the hours from 10:00 a.m.-10 :00 p.m.? >> i have no problem with that. >> second sending a calendar every

month. >> i would definitely do that to get protection for our events. >> thank you. >> okay. so, right, are you asking for events that are above and beyond the regular calendar? >> i want a complete calendar for events going on there. >> let's entertain a motion since public comment is closed. >> i would like to approve the permit with a 10:00 a.m. start time and 10:00 p.m. ending time with the condition that the applicant submit a monthly calendar to the bayview station. >> i will second that. >> a point of clarification is this daily or just weekend or

seven 7 days a week? >> i read the permit as being everyday, although, is that not? >> it could be. it's up to you. >> it's up to us. you want to give it to her seven 7 days a week? >> again this goes to the question of licensing beyond what is necessary. do you do events monday through friday? >> it probably depends on when the holiday falls. >> our third on third event used to be on thursdays then we moved it for fridays for various reasons. sometimes, identify halloween for instance: we celebrate that when it's halloween. >> it sounds like it could encompass

monday through sunday with very little impact. >> yeah. there is not going to be daily events, anything like that. the permit would cover the bayview opera house property, third street area and mandel plaza, right? >> mandel plaza. according to the application it's just mandel plaza. >> i submitted two applications because i was told that jocelyn spoke to from the economic development department that we had to get two permits, one for mandel plaza and one 1 for third street. that's why i submitted two applications. i'm concerned that once we move

we are going to move activities inside the opera house and outside because we have this great new area and i would like that to be covered as well. >> the inside is going to be a different issue. >> we have an inside permit already. >> okay. i guess the bottom line what we have in front of us is mandel plaza. >> i understand. hang on one second. we did have two permit applications. i don't know why they didn't end up here, but under direction from the commission we can handle the second permit administratively. we don't have to come back here since the discussion is the same. mandel plaza has a different underlying jurisdiction, the department is in charge of one side and not on the other side of the street. without getting

complicated tonight, if the instruction is the same regarding the amplified sound we can address this similar to the one tonight. >> the third street application varies close to the mandel plaza? >> it's the same event. the event moves around depending on what we are doing. >> it's within 500 feet? >> yes. >> so this is third street between what and what? >> third street between mckinnon and peru. >> i would like to amend the motion to include that portion of the street. >> can i pause for a minute? should we ask the police? does the permit -- are you okay with that addition, the third street part? >> how are you doing, the

captain sent me down. he was business, obviously he's got a lot going on. to clarify, there is one street that runs in the middle of bayview opera house and mandel plaza. it's closed down for restructuring. they have been using mandel plaza. when they open up, the bayview house faces third street. we haven't had any problems there. they don't use both spaces all the time. it depends on what functions are going on. >> you don't have any objection? >> no. we haven't had any problems. >> this would be one permit approval encompassing both mandel plaza? >> correct. >> you are okay with that? >> yes. would it be easier to stipulate the address for the bayview opera

house and mandel plaza. >> i think we have two applications. >> it's 4702 third street? >> okay. >> that address is 4705. 4702 is the temporary office. we don't want just the opera house part of third street. we want third street on both sides of the street because that's where our events are from mckinnon to blew. we have from third to mandel plaza. >> what they are proposing sounds like no change to what has been done. >> yeah, it's gone on. i have been out there 8 years. she works with the department as far as bayview

station and let everyone know what's going on. i don't have any objection. i think we are good. >> to restate again then the motion is to include both mandel plaza and third street between mckinnon and paloo for the timeframe 10:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.. >> we have a motion and second. >> commissioner frost commissioner moshiayannis and commissioner lee. >> okay. i guess that's the end of the permits section. now it's commissioner comments and questions. anybody have any comments or questions? no? >> yeah, i would like to

welcome commissioner canino to the board and look forward to working with you and great job tonight. >> thank you. >> exactly. okay. anybody else? no. okay, any public comments on the commissioner comments or questions. okay, that part is closed. now new business for future items or agendas. i have one question. are we still going to make a decision on the 40-day issue like filling out last minute permits. do you still need a ruling on that? >> i do. as we left it, it was with the commission, not necessarily staff to come back to us with how those and what he's talking about to clarify and i'm sure you know what he's talking about is a special permit

procedure relative to certain dates of the year mostly holidays wheren staff has some direction around how late a permit can come in before we can necessarily not accept it or deny a permit for a special event out of the ordinary event. it was left in your hands although i'm not entirely clear on how you were to proceed, but it is in your court. >> okay. you guys want to ask president tan to maybe call, we should do something about it, give him some direction. so maybe, do we make that part of the record and say we want to refer this to president tan to make a decision at least a couple meetings from now? >> sure. >> okay. that's the only

question i have. >> then we did talk about it. have we agendaized making a vice-president? >> yes. we can put that on the agenda now that we have, all of our seats are full so we can put an election on the agenda and we will do that. >> okay. so anybody have anything else or any public comment on our future agenda? okay. i see none. we can go home now. meeting adjourned. thanks for the volunteering. >> great job filling in. thank you. [ meeting is adjourned ] >> >>

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