here from the overflow room i'm a member of the hate ashbury neighborhood council board please delete the areas south of south street not in the organization boundary either this project pits neighbors against neighbors no new parking has been created it is just a hunting license and the fact it is the same procedure for 40 years might possibly be a signal you might want to consider changes for the moving forward why should it be that a few hundred people can initiate the process but to get out of it later on if it is imposed on neighborhoods 50 percent of the neighborhoods have to sign up but to get out you have to have a variety

number of neighbors signing something has to be changed i want to see perp some cumulative impact analysis you did boubltdz and bike lanes and car share spaces and allow the shuttle buses to park and there's construction but all those other things are taking away parking at the same time, we're trying to limit it with this loophole look at ways to do lower costs for motorcycles and low income persons for various reasons and if you feel you must do parking permits south of fell i personally suggest you add an area s don't give our people in the lower hate ashbury the disadvantage of having to put up with neighborhoods from that up the hill thank you.

>> (clapping.) (calling names). >> and again members of the public back there please find a seat or go to the overflow room. >> i'm john lindsay i feel good i am not living near q and for 25 years we've dealt with ucsf parking and neighbors that don't enter the apartment from my street they enter from their parking garage i have a website u p parking permits to get parking on this spot you don't think i don't have the access to the one hundred and 50 people that are not my neighbors other issues as much as and applaud

you guyss bach of square feet there is no incentive for people to park nicely on they're red scooters and the other things the inclusive the mechanic is auto repair facility to a lewis they that is correct their pickup trucks on our blocks they safe the parking spaces for the theory employees and clients so my daughter happens to be sick i have to ask them to move their cars sometimes they tell me no and sometimes, yes so i'm a hundred percent in favor of this self isly i want them to be extended to the p section it's

important. >> thank you, mr. lindsey. >> (calling names). >> hi, i'm can carlene bailing a resident of san francisco for 21 years for 10 years in the neighborhood my husband is a resident for 15 years two children in the district arrest i'm speaking on behalf of 5 neighbors one elderly and 4 are unable to make it they have to work and couldn't get off work i'm in support of establishing the permit parking this was offered by the sfmta as a solution to moving one hundred plus parking spaces it meet all the criteria that the mta has and i would go here and supported it i'm one of the majority that point it it will solve a problem it has been long and most of the supporters

have spoken at the public meetings so i'm in complete support of it and although it's not perfect every another neighborhoods has parking when i volunteer at the child's school i move my car every two hours i can't find parking when i come home with my kids and one has special needs i'm in support the program (clapping.) (calling names). >> hi, i'm rebecca child in the nearby area with roommate we would have been at the meeting before but we all work we're all muni and bart users the two of us have cars i use mine to consultant to work two

or three times in san burner and my roommate to oakland to get to school at night to become a physical therapist and parking is a huge problem as you've been hearing i get home after work and spend a large amount of time looking for parking to find parking or to get the metered parking and move the car before work extra early we get frustrated we see all the prides or permitted or unpermitted cars on our street we fully support this. >> thank you

(calling names) hi, i'm macarthur i've lived here since 2007 and have two children under 5 and staffed to the commissions first, by san francisco and yes, ma'am emphasis with the atheist daylight driven proposal for the commission to consider the benefits an circling diverse community but i'm here in strong opposition to the rpp q it is reiterated over and over again how a process that allows a small portion of an effected area to drive something sfard forward t is flawed with the stakeholders is a real, real problem and issue it has been stated over and over again and about the process that hadn't been mentions the counting

toward parking stock of one space perish garage ingress that is a real problem there when you count parking stock and use that as a criteria in our. >> (repeated.) >> the constitution of the united states. process but use a finger in figure in the calculation you're going to arrive at problematic results so one thing space for garage egress you're not looking at a report that creates a rb p eligible area other things i want to mention is that creating a protective class with people who bind to a permit are buying into a lens a directing a day where the residents have to pay in excess of $200 a most that is an

inequality people should compete on the streets for equal money. >> (calling names). >> k5eg9 had to go move her car put her at the bottom (calling names). >> good afternoon i'm opposed this because the government mta stepped in two late and also you charging hundred and $10 a year is too low because of the time change everything else change people that want to live in alleyway month miscarries is a lot of tourists coming and so you have to charge more money for the permit and also cut down the one hour parking only because we allow the tourist i live in bay

area but sit with my doggy should have a right to do that this neighborhood i tell them they have to pay the price of parking and the neighborhood noted belong to them that are coming for the charge they coming for the pray to god they have to pay but please put one more ball to the ground so you have to build the under ground parking you'll get all the money back and the panhandle under the panhandle park underground thirty floors everybody can park everything you're doing our spaces we had more people coming out every 4.3 second one baby

coming out every 16 seconds one management or baby in america maybe you don't know the number with care and everybody is united we say alamo their out there fighting the mexican guy coming i'm a chinese but i like to call everything thank you (clapping.) (calling names). >> hi, i'm marching jean robertson been here since 19 of 9 and my agreement over 16 years with rent control no garage so there's 5 spaces that have no garage and one of the things i find most problematic about the

process that we have here is that when i was working for supreme court i worked from 9 to 5 my problem was finding parking when i got home so this makes absolutely no sense to me i would like if we're going to have residential parking permits it's not from 9 to 5 that is it for people that live in the neighborhood looking for parking when they come home so that's basically all i'm going to say i really have a problem with the fact that you only have one vehicle per store i i know that our neighborhood store in my building has several people that have to go unload and load up you know and share - very e they have 3 vehicles to use for the store they have workers to work

at night you can't have one car for the entire thing so that's the other issue thank you. >> thank you, ms. r0r7b9 son. >> (calling names) and those are the last speaker cards. >> good afternoon barry want to point out have you noticed the people that love the parking live there loneliness the people that live there because they can't afford to move there this is my farther district look who are the first district supervisors making thoul that is all and chris 10 and symsomehow didn't seem to represent people that are a lot of them are all over the and low income 0 folks that live above the poverty

level and can't afford to pay the fees and a lot of them work at night and in service jobs why do you - what dakota took them so long because of the people that live through maybe bifurcate it to the folks but leave it alone or go back to the drawing board two issues one that don't have r vp it effects the people that live there for a long time it is important to realize to have it go to 8:00 p.m. at night is ludicrous it goes to 10 o'clock you can't enforce it if you're going to hire more pcos to get people out

of the taxi zones by the time you arrive it is an hour and the person is moved your staffing levels are ludicrous you enforce it to 8 o'clock at night it shouldn't go to 6 in that particular area thank you. >> (calling names). >> hello i'm kathleen wade i support the area q parking permit my husband and i have been there for over 10 years we send time at alamo square park we are investing in our neighborhood and encouraged by the embarcadero corridor, however, that comes with the parking issues we need cars for our park we don't have a garage when we first moved to our home we were challenged to find a

parking of 15 minutes or less and spend 45 minutes or more sometimes parking over 10 blocks away from our neighborhood in addition, we live on the block of embarcadero and it is effected by the sweeping and the meters along the block according to the occupancy scare 91 percent of the spaces are occupied and 61 are occupied by non-recipe why should people with no ties to our neighborhood b be allowed to occupy the spaces in our neighborhood? (clapping) the proposed area q will allows us to park in our own neighborhood in close proximity to our home and 9:00 p.m. will give us time to have a chance to find parking and will reduce our

stress at the end of our work days i wanted to address the church community they said they're working on addressing the complicated process they should be included and phase two to address the issues that are perplex thank you for supporting our process >> the last person that turned in a speaker card on this. >> (calling names.) >> good afternoon commissioners i'm quinton i'm an 18 residents of alamo scare what a fascinating process i want to be clear and correct mr. johnson and as my neighborhood o did he believe pointed out this didn't start with the neighborhood this idea and suggestion started with our staff they proposed it as a solution

to the concerns over the fell street bike lanes being installed and the parking meter being solved it will solve a range of issues go and get r vp and it will solve the issues it 90 was not property by folks i want went back and the original person a series of e-mails that tom sent out to the neighborhood and each of them he receipts over and over if this issue is defy certify we'll he'll not pursue it if the issue is divisive mta will not pursue it welcome to the last year's of my neighborhood you should be paying attention we're obsessed

neighbor versus neighbor about the r vp parking permit i really think the among other things needs to look at the process you've followed in this creating the r vp i'm opposed to it and not having a car and having a car again, that's why we have the parking lot those are solutions not discriminating against a class of people he oppose it (clapping.) mr. chairman directors that's the last person that turned in a speaker card. >> directors. >> director borden. >> i have a series of questions and for staff and i know we recently passed free muni for seniors do we have a hardship

for parking permits? >> i was wondering if i could ask it i was wondering what the rules are. >> i was going to ask that, too. >> for the placards. >> so we don't generally speaking have hardship provisions that are currently in the transportation code with regards to parking i can think of offhand but if you're a parking placard person you have not subject to the two hours. >> another thing businesses can apply for workers what other regulations and guidelines around those applications. >> yes. businesses in residential parking places that are primarily residential within

the boundary that are eligible for a number of permits i believe 3 and . >> so 3 is the maximum they can't get more than 3. >> i think 4. >> for businesses can do it. >> let's ask our coordinator. >> yes. all businesses within an area are able to purchase one and 3 for commercial vehicles registered to the business. >> for example, the daycare center not for the workers. >> it depends on if the daycare

has 15 workers or more eligible to get permits for the employees based on the number of street footage. >> with that apply to after-school programs or educational. >> if an educational program it would apply. >> i mean just trying to get whether or not to after-school program an after-school program program that has teachers might be able to i'm trying to fourth for schools that have after-school programs. >> if their employed as teachers and are there white cones in front of the housing promotions or for street parking space. >> i think there's no like

western we have white zones for facilities they have a large number of visitors so we've been trying to increase the number of blue parking zones in those areas there's an answer but, yes. >> i'm not saying near the context for the 2 hundred and 50 residents are there 0 bicycle zones. >> 255 i'm sorry. >> i don't know the particular parking regulations kathy. >> sorry. >> that's fine. >> okay. >> we're going to go tag team. >> the residents of that facility would they be eligible to get the permits if they want them. >> please speak into the microphone.

>> yes. they would. >> do we know how the things like assisted living tenants and things like that are there permits how is that handled if we know at all. >> can you explain that. >> yes. there is a provision in the code that allows you to get a permit for your childcare provider and medicare provider some have a maximum of 4 some for the medicare permit that transfers from one provider to the next and sometimes 3 one for each of the 3 medicare providers they have. >> okay. great. >> and then another question i had in terms of there's a lot of people that cock u talk about south of the panhandle it is different than alamo square.

>> the original proposal includes the oak and south of the panhandle and west of visa the car but from the hate ashbury we'll be eliminating the area south of the proposal. >> up to baker street. >> another question i many i know that dpw gives the parking for contractors it's my understanding that if a parking space from a contractor is not used i i know the policy states the parking is available if that contractor not using this city attorney space are you aware of that or the signs maybe you can speak to the construction parking projects. >> yes. i'm sorry the details

i'm not clear about those are dpw contracts. >> a couple more questions in terms of i know in the planning code you're looking at the resources and provisions around have we thought about maybe something the staff can look at the historic facilities for places like churches obvious that have been in the community for a long time or the historic resources or the native daughters of facilities and other things of a historic nature how we can treat those sort of cultural stainless to make sure that people can get that to them. >> i think the answer not only for the churches but really for any cultural significant stakeholder the answer is to get the regulations under the block; right? for today some of the comments with many of the churches have indicated the

articulate is could be a challenge. >> - >> we've clearly heard the two park - that is something that maybe needs a closer look for the historic for the parking regulations that matches them as close as possible to the institutions of those blocks. >> to that point in some neighborhoods for example, in pacific heights and the presidio there is 3 hour parking and other 2 and 4 hour parking i feel like to have staff perhaps around the churches or other facilities look at three or four other windows to accommodate some of the concerns in this area any reason why we couldn't do that.

>> the design it has a 2 flat two hour to make it simple but again, it is worth going back and take a look at the churches where the blocks have 4 hour parking. >> on this proposal there wasn't consideration of three or four hours for businesses. >> the original proposal some of the original proposals early on for june of this year committed some 4 hour parking, however, sfoovt prefers 2 hours parking it is easier to enforce and effective n enforcement how r vp is a dynamic provision if after the churches it is sdilsz

along the block where some of the churches want 4 hours we can have that changed easily the is that you as the r vp changes. >> that's a good question a lot of concern about once you're in your sort of in and can't get out i hear once you're in amendments can be made if we up to the point it the dialog of the churches and the business communicated the churches are important but so is the business community the dialog can continue if it is better to have a three or four hour zone we can do that procedurally. >> i guess the final question if we approve that today which is this in effect. >> not to the fall. >> will you make the decisions prior to that time not to change the signs twice. >> that's our intent.

>> our commitment if we vote for this today changes will help not an informational only item will be the final outcome. >> okay directors thank you. >> questions director brinkman. >> i only want to bring up the fact i'm in the zone we got a mailing to the households was there a mailing to pretty much all the neighborhoods. >> the original packet was the the map and the proposed proposal to over 4 thousand households and the second mailing was a postcard with a map on it to another 4 thousand households so again. >> thank you that was the only