in phase 3b. that concludes this presentation. if you have questions, we are here. thank you. >> thank you for the presentation. madam secretary do we have any speaker cards? >> i do not. >> someone forget to fill out a speaker card? does someone have a speaker card to turn in so we can call you. >> mr. joseph? you can come up. >> good afternoon commissioners. my name is jerald joseph, i am vice-president of hsn properties. we represent about 400 units in the bayview, one of which is

mariners village with the home association we manage. the board wanted me to come out to say they are in full support of this development for this project. lanar has been a great neighbor and kept us informed and the neighborhood association looks forward for the development of the vacant and abandoned lot across the street which has helped the association residents to support coming up with funds and doing major repairs on this itself. i have been asked to come and let you know that the association along with the other 5 associations i represent in the bayview are 100 percent in support of the development. thank you. >> thank you. >> linda richardson? >> good afternoon president,

rosales, commissioners, director and attorney brian. every time we come out here we know to have to push milestone. we also know that you all the key to providing housing in san francisco after you approve this item on your calendar there is a lot of need in san francisco. as a matter of fact, today's women's history month and at city hall today i brought young women, graduates, some of them are living in the basement of their parents. wouldn't it be nice if we can provide more avenues for some of the young people in san francisco right now we seem to have an explosion of them. they want to work in the tech industry, the law firms, they

are very creative. we support you and would like you to move this project forward. i think we should be having this every month two or three meetings like this where we come become -- before you and we have these types of projects. we really appreciate your time and you need to be told that we really do appreciate your time. we are working in the community again to make sure that before items come before you that the community has a chance. dr. hanukkah should be talking to you and give you the scope of what is going on in the community. i would like to take this opportunity to congratulations mr. wilson of the community builder the key part of this community development and in compliance of all the obligation that the community has

setforth. on that note, thank you again for your time and approving this project. we'll be back. thank you. >> dr. veronica honey cat? >> good afternoon. president rosales and all of you wonderful commissioners and our executive director tiffany bohee and as always our attorney robert brian. it is good to see all of you. i want to thank you for this opportunity to speak with you. you need to know that we at the cac for the shipyard have heard the details of block 48 in our subcommittees and in our general cac meeting. we understand the phase and approach to this development. we at the cac have been active partners particularly with the aesthetics of the buildings that are

the intent of the area. our intent was not to have the building look too boxy and have an aesthetic look which is a wonderful go to destination in the bayview hunters point area. the staff was wonderful and they went along with us and they understand what we are to do with the project. we are very excited about other benefits that will rument -- result from the block 48 project. we concur and we approve with this approach on the project and urge you to move forward with this development. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> no more speaker cards? okay. so, public comment is closed. do we have comments and questions or questions from commissioners >> i do. i have a few so bear

with me. so it looks like there is going to be an additional 40 units being built because of the density bonus that you want us to approve? besides the mandatory affordable housing units what are we getting as a result of these additional 40 units? >> the community benefits agreements for phase 1 includes a variety of things that are not clearly associated with each vertical development. they are sort of in addition to. the key development described for the project in terms of vertical are the open space. so the open space that's created adjacent to the lot. their community benefits programs that are existing and on going today so the construction assistance program, the cap program. >> will those be, because the 40 units are obviously going to bring

more money to lanar. so what is, besides the obvious of the open space that obviously everyone is going to enjoy but what else is there? >> there is a community benefit agreement that lays out the groundwork that the developer has to pay for and divide. one is a small business program, that is three folks that assist small contractors with getting, not getting contracts but understanding the bids and helping them produce bids. that's a community benefit. the site office that is there, that is community information center, that is a point of communication for the community, that's paid for by lanar part of what's required for them to provide. the first time home buyer services. the lanar i think has a contract for outreach with san francisco housing development corporation to

assist first time home buyers and provide them education for first time home buyer opportunities. phase 2 community benefit are active and they don't recognize that it's a phase 1, phase 2 project on going benefits. >> there is not a little extra being put into this stuff as a result of the new units? >> no. it's all required as it is today. there is no additional community benefits that are a result of this aside from additional affordable housing that is required otherwise they wouldn't have to provide it. >> okay. and then on phase 2a, the catch up units, so you said that they are going to be put in in another section, right? >> yes. >> are we trying to get autumn the bmr units are they going to be lumped

together, i thought we wanted to spread them out so everybody can enjoy stuff. >> absolutely. there are two parts of the dda that have to be closely coordinated. one is the right of the developer to include a minimum of 5 percent and maximum of 20 percent bmr within each project. that has to be trued up every hundred units. what happens is depends on how many of those were deferred, let's say, you can then have them moved over to another site but that's part of the ability of the developer to say this project is no the that feasible. i would like to reduce that bmr there and move it to the site. that is something that is a feature as part of the phase 1 dda as it stands. that happens that the 600-unit is phase 2a. then any units that were deferred up in will that point if you had

6, you had 5. block 52 we had one. in this case you had 6 so it's in a larger pool which is part of the reason why lanar moved it up from phase 1b. that's 50 units versus 164. as they have explained to me part of their rational. they are supposed to be distributed throughout but there is a feature that is a slight bit of clumpiness but part of the process. >> the commission monitors it. every 300 units will have to true it up and god willing we'll see the true up. yes. >> my last question, which goes to my mantra and i'm glad the folks from lanar are here. one of the things that is important to me as a city

san franciscan and as a commissioner is the amount of business that is going to local people. i have said this before and i will say it again. i think a lot of people in the community have had to put up with a lot whether it was neglect by the city for many years or a lot of the construction and in some cases there is a lot of displacement like we find in the mission. it's important that local businesses that you hire people that have been around here for a long time. there is people that have been here since last year and are getting all the business where people that have been here are not getting any of the business. i know there is a percentage, but it would be great to

get a little bioon some of these services to know it's given to people who have put up with. i have brought this up and will continue to bring it up and hold people accountable because it is important. i even mentioned last time that you know, the construction workers, you know, instead of hiring a caterer to come in, why don't you have one of the local dell is on third street. contract with them and give them the at some point to provide the food and snacks and the drinks that a lot of the construction workers would need. it's an opportunity for us to be creative but also to reward people who have survived all this. so, i think it's a win win all around, right? it's part of what it means to be a great neighbor and a good corporate

citizen in the city, but it also helps a lot of these families that we want to help stay in the community and who knows, be able to buy one of these units and i'm not just talking about bmr's, maybe these folks, if you help them do well they can get a market rate unit. i think it's a win win. i would love for us to be able to take a look at some of these when the rfp's go out and give us a brief file of how long they have been in business in san francisco. maybe their generation as city san franciscans. i think that would be important for us. >> thank you, madam president. >> i saw that you have one parking for each unit. what do you mean off street parking in addition to the

one garage? >> the off street parking is referring to parking that the unit has like your garage. on street parking is street parking. >> off street parking? >> off street is within your garage. >> okay. that's the garage. >> yes. >> also on the bonus on the density, is it more dense than the other places of san francisco before we are living where? >> i would say it's probably one of the, i would call it median density if you have nothing but single family homes the density type of approach dense bay. mission bay is medium to low density. this is medium. this is very similar to what's basically done on the hill top. that is being replicated here as opposed to

a bunch of town homes to low density. it's medium. >> sbe, wbe, they are in compliance with all the requirements. >> i have mr. lee to come up and address that question. >> good afternoon commissioners, raymond lee. lanar is in compliance with the sbe program as stipulated with their participation at the roughly 62 percent with sbe credits given. >> so they are this complains with our requirements? >> correct, yes. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioner mondejar? yes. the catch up units, do we know what type of units this would be? >> that's a question we have been in discussion a lot with the

developer. we don't quite know. they have provided a very rough sense. your son -- conceptual design has information about the building with the square footage. those catch up units as stated will be on average 700 square feet per unit whether it's one or two bedrooms that remains to be determined. i would like them to come up and talk about their design process and what some of their early thinking is on the catch up units. >> brian lanar, urban. what we are, we didn't want to go ahead and start planning out the rest of the site. it's pretty important to the rest of the site to know that we are going to have the height and open

space development modification before we start moving forward. we felt comfortable with the first phase moving but it's almost right after this, we'll start moving forward with the design on that and hopefully be here in the next few months. until then it's such a tricky site, it's hard to come up with detailed info that we've been asking for. as soon as we get it, we'll make it available. >> i have a follow up question. your marketing plan. we've been asking for a marketing plan of what demographic you are targeting and do we have that yet? what is the update on that? >> thank you, commissioner mondejar, i will let mr. zu brak address you and what are we seeing people coming. we are preparing a report for you for

april 21st. mr. zu brak will have that information but i wanted to let you know there is more information coming to the project and ship yard. >> with regard to block 48 we have worked with the topography and master plan and there is something that might be with flats and some kind of a mix in between. as we move forward with the design and marketing team we should have more concrete info. >> not until april is what you are saying? >> i think the plan is. >> what do you have right now, who is buying, do you have an idea of who is buying, who are you attracting, how many from the certificate of reference. i have an interest of how many families are buying with children. give us an idea of

what you have, especially with the catch up units. it's 700 square feet average. that's probably about a small family. >> not even. >> yes. 700, maybe with one child. i don't know. but it's, you know we are all concerned about housing in san francisco and not pushing away families to somewhere else so they stay in the city. >> absolutely, commissioner mondejar and that is one of our no. 1 priorities. we don't have that information, we are preparing for affordable housing folks at our office and along with the housing community development is working on that report and that will come april 21st. he doesn't have that information and we don't have that information today. i apologize but we will bring that to you in april before the approval of the schematic designs. >> i'm concerned because they

are asking for approval and there are going to be units but we still don't have an idea of who is going to be living there and at least if we are going to give you something, if we are going to approve something we at least need to know how that would address the families in san francisco, the housing situation and it's just, i feel like we need to know what's going on and what's happening. >> we'll have to -- yeah. >> yeah, we'll have to wait until april to get an idea but you have sales already, right? you know who is coming, who is asking for tours. >> i'm randy, the director of development, not part of the development team. i can't answer your question. i will work with the department team to get the

answers for you. >> we have asked for this and we haven't gotten this unless i have missed: >> we are working to get you the information. i'm sorry, i wasn't prepared to bring it to you today. >> yeah. >> i have some questions as well, why don't we go off topic on this one thor, perhaps you can explain to me, in realtime, what is the community builder doing on this project. no. >> they are doing the fee

developer model. >> i would like to get an idea of what that is. >> environmental construct. what we do is basically we work with brian and lanar and the design concepts they have we come up and we find out what the community wants and we go and help them make sure these changes are being made on the design and make sure that the community is comfortable with those design changes. so that's where they are doing now in the design phase working with brian and lanar in getting those changes made. that's our function. >> the liaison with experience, right? the community can say we want x, i mean how do you know. >> you can't get everything you want, exactly. >> you would be the expert that allows the feedback to the community that those are being implemented? >> right. >> that makes sense.

>> as we've been moving along this is the period where we meet with the community. we had various community meetings and working with the design and as we get to design development and construction document and construction is very involved. we are at the early stages. >> i know we talked about it and there are not that many community builders that have come up and i'm like what is it exactly. okay, i had a couple questions on the affordable housing. i guess one big question and i don't know that we have an answer, i'm echoing what my fellow commissioners have about the affordable units at the end of the day how are we going to assure and staff assure us hopefully that certificate

of preference holders have a clean clear open opportunity to to be to get basically one of these units because there is not that many units. i don't have faith in the lottery system. i know the mayor's office of housing, i think we've asked this question before if there is some other method because i think it's a system that sets people up for disappointment over and over. is there anything you can tell us about when it come to i call direct marketing kind of thing. who are the certificate of preference holders who could qualify. do we know them? can we find them to make sure they are front in line for these opportunities? >> so, for the record, thank you, president rosales for that question. i think this very detailed and hopefully it will answer all of your questions or at least spur the

conversation forward in a positive way in april. the marketing update. i know the mayor's office of housing and development has data online system that is pretty robust and i was learning more about the capabilities are and has all the information about the applicants and sorted by zip code and the lottery and incomes are and the family composition is. if they were applying for a two bedroom unit, whether it's for sale or rental. all the data in the past 12 months for the report and we are going to feed that in along with lanar with the marketing team to get the result of their market rate development and who those folks are where those units and how fast they are sechlg -- selling and they have all that data they are bringing forward in april. we wanted to bring

it earlier but that information wasn't available techlt -- at the time. these are very good questions. please keep asking for the information but that's the opportunity when we'll provide it. >> you know, i remember when i was on redevelopment commission we asked a lot about this and asked for reports and asked for briefings to be able to talk about this and learn more and how, i mean, i guess that if we need the mayor's office of economic and workforce and development and housing to come before us to give us a report, then we need to do that because i almost feel like i actually don't want to approve anything until we start getting reports about this stuff. asking for certificates of preference holders to get these units is not for me a pipe dream, it's an

obligation that we have as a city especially to the people in the western addition that we have failed. i know there is a lot of money on the line with these projects, but there are a lot of lives that were disrupted through redevelopment which is now our agency. and it's, i mean, to me this is serious and i don't want us to stop the projects, but i almost feel like i would vote no because i want to know where is the stuff going, who is getting it and like you, madam chair, the lottery system is, you get people who just moved here getting a unit when there are people who were pushed out 40 years ago who are still waiting. so i know maybe for some people it's not politically correct for me to say that, but i

don't care. it's the right thing to do. i'm not just pointing at you thor, you know me and you know what i'm about, but we have to do the right thing for people. we are asking for reports and we've also asked to meet in the western addition and there are a lot of things that we have piled on the list that we would love to look at and get stuff on. so i would concur with you madam chair about getting something that says this is who is getting it. >> right. yeah, because we want to know if we are on track if we are not on track correct for the course. is there a possibility to ask the mayor's office of housing to attend our next meeting to give us a verbal report on kind of an interim give us the high points because i agree, we've been, i have been on this commission

for over two years and we've been asking about a certificate on the preference programs and marking strategies and web portals possibilities. >> yes, we can certainly ask the mayor's office on housing. we have them partner with others to do the marketing and manage the cop program and ask them for a report before the full blown report in april if that's the madam's direction. >> maybe we can include something like this as a standing item on our agenda. >> yeah, i think it's a great idea. >> so it's on there and every meeting we get a report and we get a sense of where we are on this. >> i was going to move on to the sbe policy. >> it's with affordable housing. i want to go back to the marketing plan which is covered with the

certificates of preference. the largest population in district 10 is api community. so part of the marketing plan are some of your marketing materials translated to several languages outreach to the api community and who is buying, the 88 units sold out, who are these people. are they certificates of preference, some of them? i don't know. what's the am i this year, do you know. sit like 50 percent, 80 percent, what's the number? the average ami this year, every year it puts out. i think it's higher than 60. because i noticed it 50 percent of ami, 80 percent, 100 percent.