portion but what's underground and the curve ramps those are the big impacts so we could come back with cost and schedule impact i don't know, there 0 would be necessarily a significant cost of schedule books we arrived where we arrived at the recommendation not really based on cost and schedule but based on you've heard a number of people refer to an achieve process whereby we took a number of different options 12 or 20 i think original options at the starting and really worked with the community with enormous stakeholder to arrive at what we thought best met the needs of the street the people who live driver's license who work there and travel through there i'll assail that to be clear it

would let's safe money or time so i don't think there is a significant cost of scheduling impact not a value of staff time to develop that we'll do that but the business impact you've heard i don't know how much we can mr. estimate that a meeting like today having businesses sigh this is how to impacts me i understand the desire from the motion and from those who spoke under oath in favor what information we consider that alternative and did have it environmentally clear where we are at the end of the process we were best

addressing all the needs of the project concluded the safety needs of the recommendation before you les if you want to add anything in terms of what we could come back with. >> i can give you a range because you know if we did that just - i think that we would bans we were leon doing other projects the quality of the parking lanes is not a typically good surface we'll want to restepfathers it speaking the range it would be a few thousand dollars to do the paint only green paint and signs and the raised track is one million dollar like in the south if we want to redo the pavement it is one way or the other without having it raised it would be somewhere in the middle if this

helps to understand speaking with my colleagues at the public works adding the raise would have an expansion of three or four months and offering will you explain with the bart we're trying to reduce the overlap but adding the paint and signed as director reiskin mentioned without the possibility of parole hurt the schedule. >> would we need additional the time if we put this option into the mix a recommended mix a meeting where people i assume there are month to month before it came back to us. >> it will be redoing the process of a year or two ago supervisor christensen said if we're going to look at this recommendation she will want a community process to support that so a point well-taken i don't know what we'll get as a

result of progress and not you know, i think violate the integrity of the process we went through i don't know what else we could bring back scheduling costs and impacts that's not the basis of arriving at it was not based on cost or schedules but all the stakeholder feedback to honor the supervisors request we'll want to have a process what that looks like. >> macro main i'll suggest what - i'm not suggesting this is not a great idea but for useful an evaluation process of success maybe goals and maybe have staff come back with recommendations if we're doing a look at impact in the first sector this is the kind of quickly on the ground

getting things done and the second sector have staff think about goals and benchmarks to reexplore a raised cycling or other issues we had we weren't making our goals with more injuries in the corridor but a basic - it sound like not a cost but it sounds like not new information we want to make sure that we're upholding vision zero and neighbor we can create sort of a successful 0 evaluation or benchmark for time and places for the various prelims of the plan maybe this is more useful in the context which we will look at additional improvements that need to be made. >> that is the tint i think we've spoken to that briefly in the presentation we do for all project but particularly this one there are many concerns

raised we want to evaluate those relative to the concerned what is the impact and some folks are negative and some say it will be positive we're designing this to reduce the collisions we want to see the data for any project bring that back and pubically likely need to make adjustment over the life of the project some folks said at the early stage of project we're making infrastructure - what we're doing on the surface we'll have opportunity sooner or later if we need to if the data support it if the public and board supports it to make changed interrupt to whatever. >> i want to be respectful my point through the process came

to policy in governance in may of 2013 was that staff put in front of us the best option not the best compromise but the best option for the safety the option that is going to help us with the climate change goal and everything we didn't really get that because i have a lot of faith in this board we have glutton such a learning process in the 5 go and 3 years i've been on the board the one hundred years on the boarder (laughter). >> i felt my questions yes it would be push the limits but that we will be aware though the public process that option was going to come to us and gage the

reaction i know the projects critically bold and second street i don't want to vet this project on the high injury corridor not bring us to that same level of safety like the other projects i'm not sure how to rio word that i agree there is not a lot of information i can bring back to us but i wanted the opportunity to truly consider this this to be put in front of the where had to be clear on the curbside regulations for loading and unloading not to make the northern part as save as the southern part. >> what we've approved is bold my time on the board we've removed the pooshz but nothing like this we need to respect i

know that director borden was on to other analysis i wouldn't want to go on record this everything e evening we support that other than more information we've heard not more information is available i'd like to support it two but it is a great thing not a small thing at all one hundred and 50 pooshdz and raised bike lanes so thinking about it i think i'm not to be supportive. >> white a realistic timeline after the project what is a realistic timeline to take a look at again how long i know that staff really evaluate what you need 12 to 14 months. >> we recommend in the presentation and we can shire the data as soon as the project opens but a number of matters

of fact and an additional data to evaluate after 24 months we can do those another different time periods but want time periods for the physical changes to take root and certainly you know intending this is the a commitment to the public and businesses to be internal transparent about the matrix and the safety and economic matrix in terms of what the board wants to hold a hearing maybe a 12 or 018 or 24 months. >> that is an important question i really presenter our dedication and our pushing on this issue and maybe this is observe to the transit planner but if you take away the one hundred and sro

parking spaces people will be moving to the perimeter and looking for new patricia's parking spaces but in the long terms behavorial changes that is important when your assessing it you don't want to cease the short term but the long terms ramifications. >> how long did it take you royals there's no magic answer but in a project of this scope how long for the behavorial change. >> we have the c pmc coming online obviously another line of impact people going to new locates but that has to be whatever is looked at that's another factor that is more difficult that might effect lower polk than the upper polk so i guess when you take that in

fact. >> we want to come back at the end of the 12 months or whatever and given all the things in the corridor there is no way to have a perfect speedometer i think 12 months anytime will be the right. >> there is a motion and a second you want to change anything. >> do we want to put a timeline again, i respect all of you a timeline of 12 months. >> i'll move. >> after implementation if that's what we're going to get today we are going to get today. >> thank you. >> thank you discussion only the motion. >> we use today as a lane. >> that's our baseline.

>> all in favor, say i. and strike that and so longer than tony than 12 months after. >> 12 months after completion of the project so, so it be directing staff to come back with the ramifications for the planning department and january 15, 2015 to continue the bicycle improvement by either a protected bike lane or raise the track ann and the length to voov street to reduce the impacts on the project costs within 12 months after completion of the project. >> i'm sorry. >> on your idea of evaluation.

>> we're going to look at the impact. >> right. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> the i's have it we have 3 more items to deal with. >> item 13 intorg the planning department for the public safety for the rincon hill area mr. chairman i have no one that has indicated an interest in addressing you well staff. >> i'll grab a public comment card now. >> a written staff report and one motorbike of the public that wishes to speak on this. >> okay. again, a members

written report one member of the public. >> jamie whitaker. >> mr. whitaker. >> this is the softball for today please, please do pass this standard improvement nor o for pedestrians there are 10 thousand residents fine the bay bridge and another population along this property we certainly i think you won't hear many complaints please pass. >> that is wonderfully concise all in favor, say i. >> we're going to call the two taxi items together all right. so item 14 amending

the transportation for the orals as well as the to change requirement to objecting a taxi driver requirement for the dispatch to require derivatives to log into electronic mechanisms to eliminate the medallion that received down up to this time assistance but allowing them to permitting operate individually so for the procedures to increase the penalty amazes to at&t add violations to increase the fees related to color scheme changes and the fee schedule and remain remove language throughout the code that's item 1414 and 15 the amendment of the color schemes to extend the deadline for the

medallion permit renewal fees until may you have members of the public that wishes to address you on the matters. >> let's see let's hear from the public. >> all right. >> (calling names) a bearing still here not here so (calling names) that's it. >> i judge general have no problem with most of this i would like you to insert a phrase into section 1103 c for the rubldz the previous language mandatory that any cab driver must be a resident because of the new state law for the california driver's license that wording was removed i'm asking you

interstate and be legally permitted to work in the united states san francisco cab drivers take vulnerable people in all states and have to find out their addresses women disadvantaged very vulnerable don't think on this now photograph e is 01103 the sfmta tries to screen out now sfmta's live scan and fingerprinting covers the united states and sfmta didn't have the wherewith all to see if someone is a counted rapist in their home country the state department has the power and don't the burgundy checks before

they give people a work permit this proposal breaches the public trust this is why i want to be liam permitted to work in the united states at least not race to the bottom and have important checks than the tnc the public depends on cab drivers they can don't think on to undo is it counterproductive and gives a less quality care to the residing public and it is the color schemes rocket, however, it meets the force of regulation. >> thank you. next speaker. >> (calling names). >> good evening directors i should say director nolan i want to make it clear those are

vested and strongly supported a lot of changes here but the 3 main things about the two agenda items there is more time for companies to pay back fees every cab companies needs this considering the impact of the emptying industry and not paying a penalty for people buying medallions today more and more people are bowing medallions golden cars and running their own cars it is did trending as males are long term drivers that's a good change and fm it mandate defer dispatch company has to have a detailed physician for the public those are the 3 main objectives their strongly supported by the industry vested and wanted to speak for the right of that having said that there is one

item that effects me a big number that needs to be put on the hood of the vehicle that needs to be on the hood it distracts the way it looked like this was when helicopters when all the vehicles are now gpas tracked even though people can't know the vehicle by the number it is perpendicular the medallion has to be in the front and that's important because it's expensive to put the numbers on the vehicles that do nothing and this is a taxi we have beautiful logos on the hood of vehicle and having to put those big numbers really should be teen out of this item thank you. >> sir.

>> mark first speaker on behalf of the taxi alliance this observation we want to raise has to do with the schedule of finances because the finances schedule has been substantially increased and many of the minor violations have been raised from $28 to other higher fines not having a ballpoint pin forgetting your badge hope that's not me - sorry about that i had the damn thing off. >> it's fine for this laura. >> that's what i mean if that's a fineable offense it the like tripling the fine it's not fair

we suggest to keep the fine at the same rate on a tier and the third offense up from that the drivers are under financial stress that's it and an on behalf of green cab the big numbers unnecessary expensive pain in the neck and the other thing perhaps an error of omission if i have a 16 cab company you're paying about 45 hundred as a color scheme and 6 hundred color scheme like yellow cab double $9,000 there's no proportion here this is not the change in the rules but it should be changed because some of the other finances are go

changed and this is less the same i urge you to do that. >> mr. lee. >> thank you very much. >> if the cab driver not make money leave it in the garage the uber is proeven proving we don't need layer on top we can serve the public will now they're blocking the two tunnel area we have to go all the way around to get into the lot only the city has not that much business we have to load up our fee and the driver is - i'd like to ask you given the independent color we don't need a cab company i need a medallion and

this is the only weak evens the bureau the chiropractor works hard and treat the same and still sit with you but take the time this is a very important thing in our situation the cab driver has no more chance like california its raining and obviously do something for the cab driver we want to see independent color like new york we can derivative with medallion, in fact, you're making a policy under the chair of the capping cab company i talk whatever i like i talk straight because i'm a chinese-american i grew up with a different culture and not like you, you have to not mention to the public i can mention that

anyway, i tried to get out of the business i'm so upset if you don't want to follow this policy you go to talk about protect and you'll lose all you do is no more good the best way to walk wiring from the industry that's why i'm choosing soon but a lot of younger i'm helping to taxiing job please give us independent color the cloud is making money. >> i have a couple of questions about the big numbers on top of the cab. >> to eliminate one of the requirements of the 18 inch decalls on the roof we kept the requirement for the 18 inch

decals on the hood and the trunk if the space is available on the trunk some of the color scheme owners point out 1942 not available it is important to keep on the homicide because the commentator can see the vehicle and identify the number it is contrary and easy for the enforcement team i've heard the concerns with that. >> the other question about the tiered fines the first and second and third fines. >> we're working on a progressive discipline schedule and expect to come before the board at one of the next meetings. >> so. >> on the first of all, thanks to the folks from the industry that sat through a very long meeting with our valuable

comments with mark and terry are a and others thank you for that on the numbers this is a small thing but friends are talking about trying to keep the expenses down the recognition from the enforcement team an important it seems to me customers need to match what you're seeing on our fly wheel account is it necessary to have the big number on the hood to do that presuming the enforcement tame is trained to look for the number unless your telling us to be able to see it from some distance that's why we have the large number. >> i can understand the point of the industry i don't disagree the competing issues going out with the enforcement team we were out with 0 sfo and talking

about the numbers and watching the taxis and you could see from acquit a ways off the vehicles that had the number and the enforcement people said about how many i can see the number and identify it and some didn't have the non it made it harder it is again weighing anti those - >> again i'll move the item it is a climate to move it afford i'll urge you to geography in the further dialog with the industry on the number particularly with our enforcement and the people with flee wheel to see if we can identify the vehicle and the customers need to identify the vehicle at pretty close range and affiliate the expenses not a

one-size-fits-all one cab company may want to do it one way but not have a rigid one-size-fits-all and again, i'm going changing the motion this is for later and on the gentleman's point if the fine for a bubble pen is extensive we can come back and look at it some of those things. >> i just want to pick up on the ladies point of background check don't you respond. >> all taxi cab drivers are to undergo a backward check for a driver to be a legal resident of the u.s. if the driver were to have infractions or in their home country we