the majority of these cases is unsolved. this is truly a state of detrimental shock to me that these boards will allow paulette brown has been coming to you for years many i read recently that mayor knew who killed her son and also the police department knew who killed her son and that $250,000 reward and i don't see why you are not going for it and trying to help her solve this case by even raising the reward. thank you. >> i just feel the need to respond. we certainly, if we had the power to give monies , that's not within this board's authority. we don't control these funds. i don't want

anyone here to leave with the thought that the people that sit here listen and do not listen to what ms. brown says every week. i have seen ms. brown here for the 4 years that i have been on this commission. and i have noticed and heard the three times that you have been here now before this commission. i hear your pain. and if it were in my power to have people step forward to solve these crimes, i would make that happen. it's not just about knowing who committed these crimes. it's about having the evidence to prove it. remember the police department is in charge of investigating and arresting, and gathering that evidence. we need participation. we don't prosecute. unfortunately we are not the people who provide the monies for

these programs. that needs to be taken up with another department. if you would like me to go with you and say give this money, i will go with you. that to me is an individual question. please don't think we don't want to help you. >> i don't really think that. i'm trying to understand the purpose of these meetings and coming to you. that means you possess some type of power and influence. even to put in a word. >> i'm sorry, i'm not supposed to engage in dialogue. you had your 3 minutes and now i'm responding. my power and influence is to take it back to the people who are, that's within their power and i do that and i do that on a constant basis and working with these people i try to create policies of fair policing and

community outreach and to make sure our government is responsive to your needs. we can't meet every need and we don't have the power to solve every issue, but i will work to solve everything i can. >> just the reward money. yes, dr. marshall? >> i'm trying no the to say anything, but to your point, if i knew, i would tell. let's just get down to it, everybody knows who does these crimes. we know that, right? >> right. >> if we want to solve the crime, people are going to have to say "i saw it" if you don't present a credible case, the d. a. is going to throw it out. if people don't want to hear it, i'm sorry. it's true. if i knew, i would tell in a heartbeat because i don't want to see her go through it and you go through it. if

they need somebody to say they will do it. >> they have to consider if there is a reward with paulette brown that $50,000 wasn't enough to move the grandmother and everyone involved, we are asking because of the capital crime of four. >> i don't know what the tipping point of what people would say, if it's her pain , your pain, everybody's pain. if that's not good, that's what's going to be dealt with in the end to solve the crime. they can work on the other part. i will work on that part. >> ms. chandler, paul from the mayor's office is here. we want to connect you. we have to take the next speaker. thank you, ms. chandler. >> wonderful, we are all in this together. i'm concerned about

everyone. we need to be concerned about this together. i have been fighting for 30 years. i did not wait for my son to die. i'm been creating this walk and they tell me why would i create this when nobody died in my family. it's one for all. >> next speaker. >> my name is tacia chandler and the daughter and sister and friend to many brothers who have died along the way and sad day will die. what are we going to do about it? really, what are we going to do about it because it takes a community, it takes a clan, a nation to raise one child and we are losing all of our babies. i'm

having a boy in may and i'm afraid for him already because we raise our children to die. we raise our children to die and unfortunately it's not a race thing but it's because i watch my black brothers and sisters die everyday. we wake up depressed. we have hopes and dreams and goals but we are numb and we don't want to move forward because we feel like we are looked down as trash because of the color of our skin. i feel like if it was for, excuse my language, but if it was a white man in this car, that homicide would have been sold. it's sad to say that we are afraid to come forward because we don't have enough money to move the whole family. when there is a bunch of family thrown around. people are stealing money within our city, our leaders, the

people who watch over and make decisions for us, but we as a community don't basically have any say so. even when we speak out. there is nothing being done and that's said. we don't want to come to any of these meetings because it won't solve anything. we are just talking to be heard and to have a voice and to voice your feelings and with a you are going in your life's struggled and it's nothing. i just want to know what are we going to do. >> thank you for coming. next speaker. >> my name is may field. girlfriend of -- i feel like this needs to stop. this is really getting out of hand. like you guys tell me that four boys can die in a shooting and nothing is

being done. the killers are not found. this needs to stop. that's it. >> thank you. >> commissioners, audience, people who are watching. daniel muhammad for the record. this is a document from the department of justice dated the beginning of this year to the cleveland police department. it says, "deer mayor jackson, the department of justice has completed the practice of investigating the division of police. we have concluded that there is reasonable cause to believe the cdp engaged in the practice of excessive force in violation of the united states constitution. we have determined that the structural

deficiencies and practices in insufficient accountability, in adequate training and policies and inactive engagement with the community which conattribute to unreasonable force. my question is this, what should we do? i believe this department meets the oversight from the federal government. it's not enough to say the community is not coming forth. i don't know if people remember ray jameson. his name end up in the newspaper. leaked in all these things happened and not only he died, his family was threatened and people who knew him were threatened and it created another point in hunters point and bayview. i don't think it's our mayor or commission or

supervisors should resist that because in other cities like seattle, san antonio, they welcome the department of justice. they under that their hands are tied like chief fung used to say. if our chief is limited, he needs help. we don't need to keep trying to figure this thing out. the federal government can do things to face the political relationships in this city. san francisco was a political city. do the research and see how to department was even created. so to relieve the pain of the parents, it would make sense if this commission would say, we welcome federal oversight and the department and the mayor because i have been coming up here on and off for 15 years and sad to say it's not because the community is not coming forth. the inspectors and investigation

sometimes goes cold instantly. a little asian got killed, you have authorities knocking on every door. but a black male dies, there is nobody knocking on doors. we have documents, video tapes of two young men killed. c'mon, you all, we need federal government to come in. that's what we really need. >> thank you. next speaker? >> hello, i have my own incident where i have been suspected of doing something where i was riding a bicycle and with police. basically my experience with police they

don't identify themselves and they readily put their hands-on you and they took a small pocketknife which i have and in their custody they removed one of the main screws on it and i had a small coin purse and hard cash of $1 and that was removed. anyway the audio of cd with carpenter at the office of citizens complaints. i won't go on and on about that. but it is common knowledge that this side of town the peopler -- are aware of the rules that are different from the other side of town. i see cars driving without turning their signals and people can run me over, talking on their

cell phones and people carrying guns and shooting and murdering people and driving their car recklessly. if you were to pull over an -- affluent person and forced him to the ground. it would be interesting. i see the african americans and minority they see this and that's how they react. if you don't have an education, you are reacting like an animal. you have feelings and you don't know how to react. my thought was the air quality. everything is clustered up. i feel it myself. i'm from this place in san francisco. when i get out there and breathe some fresh air, i

feel better to get some oxygen in me. if you have criminals that maybe commit a crime, maybe you should have some of these funds to come in here so people can get fresh air. i'm studying about child development and a lot of these areas these children grow up and get this trauma. imagine when you become an adult, and suddenly you are responsible. what does that mean? we are not taught about what the laws are. i attempted to learn about what they are and i don't know what they are. police repeatedly tell me i have to have an id. i look up the laws and there is the aclu, they put it there and i don't have to have it. >> thank you very much. next speaker?

>> i think san francisco is becoming the example of the most unequal city in the country because you have all of these wonderful things that's happening, all of these celebrations, and these events while in the communities right next over, you know it's doom and gloom. i also think it appalling when four youth can be murdered and you know the city hall doesn't even bat an eye. it took the people on the ground to bat an eye. it's almost like it's chalked up to kill themselves anyway. we are killing ourselves anyway. the reality is that everybody not in violence to be a victim of it. i think we've

had a lot of, we've had different campaigns. we have had campaigns but the real epidemic is with young men 17 and 18 and early 20s going away for the rest of their life. the tragic thing about it or the sad and horrific thing about it is you really don't see any change in sight. it's going to be going on for another 20-30 years. it's already been going on for about 40 years since the 70s. the answer isn't just locking people up. right now you have the whole new tech thing going on. i read an article with ron conaway. it says tech meets the

community. i thought cool. but no, they were talking about putting alarms on guns. they were talking about protection of property. and i talk with a lot of youth out there. a lot of them want attorneys. a young man was murdered in february named charles williams. he was also a rapper. he said he wanted to start hip hop competitions in bayview. i was just wondering why was it third on third or some of these other eventsen -- invested in that and now he's passed away. i feel like the city feels. sorry. there is people who have gotten out of the life that we can invest in and work to stop some of this because a lot of people are tired, but the difference

between my era and this era is the older connection, there are really no more og's on the block. we need to region out to some of these og's to figure a change. >> thanks for taking the time. next speaker? >> good evening, i'm marlene tran. over 5 years ago when i moved to the valley, a community chinese was known as cow palace. but by their association we have been living in a crime ridden community. it pains know hear ms. brown talk about the death of her son. all of these years we hear about the homicides. it's really difficult to tell people. eventually we changed the name to the proper name

in chinese is which means visitation valley. i'm here to thank captain sullivan because a few months ago, he really lend to the residents and convened and bilingual meeting every month for the residents living around the bayview station. you have been very accommodating to us and i think this is the way to go. as you all know the sizable immigrant population in district 10, he really need the language access. i'm hoping that can also be done in visitation as well on a monthly bases so our district becomes more integrated. at this point a lot of people don't know what is happening. there has been three participatory budget meetings and our district is lucky enough to be appropriated $200,000. for the last

two meetings that i have attended half of the people ask for money regarding safety. we want to have motion detecter lights, surveillance cameras and i also proposed having huge electronic boards multilingually done. most of us don't know what's going on. we can't accept e-mails. that is not acceptable with this diverse community. we've had three meetings with the participatory budget alreadiment but it seems to me i talk to a lot of people and they don't know. there is a deadline. please, i have the information and i would be very happy to talk to you. i think people want a lot of safety here which is a priority here. >> thank you. next speaker?

>> hello, my name is olga and i live on portrero avenue. i'm here to talk about the redistrict and the line. we are asking the bayview police, police the area between 16th street, portrero and 18th street. there is a very small area and we are actually part of portrero hill and not part of mission but we do have problems that occur along the 101 expressway there. so if the person steps on to vermont street, then the mission police can't deal with them. they have to call the bayview. if they step on utah street, then they have to be dealing with the mission police. so, our

problems is not getting solved. so we are asking the bayview police redistrict so they include our area as part of portrero hill. thank you. >> thank you, any further public comment? is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. the inspect or has returned. colleagues does anyone have questions for the chief for the controllers office? >> i don't know who is going to answer but i do want to tell the public that this report came out just recently i think last week and this report talks about how they came about putting the statistics together, the working group, who participated in it and how they made the analysis to come out with the draft. i call it the draft of the district boundary lines. we heard about it in december. we did

not have this. so nine times out of ten i'm a really good visual learner. i wish we had this report before our presentation. i'm glad we have it now but i think the public should know that it was the internal city department that met with the consultants and there was captain representation on the working group and my understanding is that they did pass a lot of this to their see path and they have a lot of citizens in the district that work with them. this is the first time it was available and to all that participated and didn't have access. we got this in december but it's the first time i understand the analysis. i hate to say that but it's true. this is not carved in stone. we have gone to a lot of different communities and they have made recommendations and what we heard right now in the tenderloin they want to carve out the shopping

center, but it still comes down to straight liens and there still are streets that are divided down the line. one side of the block is still going to be on one group and the other side to the other. one thing i like to do is i want to know if anyone is gathering information so we can go to the drawing board to make sense to carve out and a lot of work went into this and it's not set in stone. i think there may be some changes coming and i'm wondering if we are gathering information and how to put this together. >> commissioner dejesus, i wanted to shake this process from here is that we have received community input and i'm tracking the community request and the controller is tracking

them. what i'm going to do is at the next meeting, like you i poured through the pages. we are going to have march 11th, an item on the agenda we are going to specifically ask after deejing -- digesting all of this and we are going to ask to give us changes and data about how it's impacted all of this. it's a data driven process. we want to understand what the data would show us if those request were made. those will be made on march 11th and come back on april 8th. to get the data and come back on the 8th and have a discussion to see if there is an agreement of what the maps would look like and come back april 15th. my

sense it's 30-45 days for the map to take effect. it's the estimate. that's the process we have moving forward. i don't know if you have any questions about that. >> i have a question about that. when we come back what i have heard at the meeting because of the officers job they are note going to change their beat but reporting to different areas. a lot of community was wondering whether staffing would change and when we are addressing the change we should also address the staff if it remains the same or doesn't remain the same. >> over and over again we heard this. as dr. marshall said that commissioner loftus said. i want to reassure everybody that nobody loses their police officers. so right now the police officers are deployed

across the city. the lines will move, so if somebody is on market street, right now market street belongs to southern police station and answers to captain deflipo. if market street goes to tenderloin, what you say exactly right to keep those cops, but those cops respond to captain turner at the station. we are going to be hiring the 300 officers that we are short right now, they are all coming back. so as they come back to the stations and some boundaries change like the tenderloin station would get larger, their percentage that they get back would get more because the area they

patrol gets bigger. if bayview as i said would stay the same even though it gets a little bit smaller unless there is new adjustment and will be considered of moving the boundary to portrero. i see the sculpture is writing that down. to go to what commissioner dejesus is saying, everything that everybody is saying, this is the prescribed measure in the charter amendment measure where the public weighs in. we needed to have a starting point. we have a starting point map where there are lines on it and with a lot of experience and data from professional consultants have drawn and now we have great input from the community about moving it to portrero for this reason or

mariposa for that reason and the win that it appears that everyone would like to annex someplace else is the shopping center. we'll work on that one. we will not be put that go shopping center on portrero hill >> and we will not be taking your cops. >> you can ask that. >> when we are talking about i understand the officers they might report differently but although sector cars changes? >> yes, sector cars will change. if the bored are -- border moves from the bayview you will have eliminated the 1 car, pretty much most of it except for portrero hill. we would have to do a rebalancing of the sectors. if potrero hill would stay in the 1 car but maybe the whole thing so

all the sectors will get smaller. >> we'll know about that if we change the line? >> yes. we are trying to cross. yeah, that would be more of an internal organizational sector. the general pub wants to make sure when they call that they are safe oovment >> the last question, the report in addition to calling for service, better centralizing the districts within their community they pointed out here and done it very well. there are other side issues, can we talk about some of those side issues that they talk about. one of them comes down to technology and that seems to be hampering us when it talks about databases and do they require improvement and we have limited information