occasion. but when we are applying for that one event, there may be a day it's 11:00 p.m.. generally it's 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.. we've never gone to 11 p.m. :00 p.m. in the past. >> what i see is 1159 :59 p.m.. >> there is a second page which is the actual permit itself although you might ask for clarification. i'm not sure what that is. if it ends at 10:00 p.m., that would be fine. we would never leave past that. >> going with outside noise or amplified sound outdoors past 10:00 p.m. is a typical. it sounds like a typical for you anyway.

>> very much so. >> any other questions? commissioners? >> when you have gone late into the evening with sound, i'm not really familiar with what kind of residential impact that might have and what residences are around you. >> there is not that many. there is one senior housing complex and there are few apartments that are like above stores. there is a lot of unoccupied dilapidated spaces. in the future that's probably going to change but not within the years timeframe. not very many residences. >> when you put up your speakers are they out towards those residential areas. >> on third street we are on the opera house towards face street. on the plaza it's usually one way or the other parallel to third

street. each event is kind of different in its set up. >> you see any residents from where you are in view of the homes? >> there is a few on third street >> have you ever gotten any complaints? >> never. never with the seniors either and we do a lot of outreach. we let people know so they know what's going on and sometimes in close streets we do outreach for that so they know what we are doing and they come out and party with us. >> the only kind of friendly amendment that i would make and it sounds like you are okay with this is to adjust the permit end time until 10 :00 p.m.. >> that would be fine. >> anything else,

commissioners? >> okay. have a seat and we'll have the officer come up. >> good evening, i'm officer ramirez from bayview station. i myself have worked with barbara on all events. cooperative, responsive. no problems. the community is totally in agreement with this. all i ask is that she continues to doing what she's doing and work together and be responsive. any questions? >> i guess eye -- i have a question around the 8:00 a.m. event. most events i know start no earlier than 10 :00 a.m.. >> that's probably she just sets up early on certain events, but it's not like, the third event starts usually at 3:00 p.m. and always ends

by 8 :00 p.m.. >> okay. then i kind of wonder why it's necessary to start the permit at 8:00 a.m.. >> some of her larger events like christmas, winter wonderland have snow. it's probably for the set up. >> i had run an event that closes the street at 3 :00 a.m. and the sound doesn't start until 10:00 a.m.. we may want to consider, i guess, i'm sorry? >> 10:00 a.m. start time is fine? okay. i just want to make sure there isn't undue, you know, we are not extending the permit beyond what is actually needed. >> commissioner frost, it sounds like every time they come to you to get the permit. they are trying to stop having the do that. would it be

beneficial for you adding this permit to go on a monthly calendar sent to you. you being bayview station? >> yes. she does again always tell us any unscheduled updated, she always updates us with events that are going on. i'm sure she'll continue to. >> okay. thank you. >> okay. >> any public comment? >> okay. can the applicant come back up. it sounds like you have a great relationship working with the police department. would you have any problem with us adjusting the hours from 10:00 a.m.-10 :00 p.m.? >> i have no problem with that.

>> second sending a calendar every month. >> i would definitely do that to get protection for our events. >> thank you. >> okay. so, right, are you asking for events that are above and beyond the regular calendar? >> i want a complete calendar for events going on there. >> let's entertain a motion since public comment is closed. >> i would like to approve the permit with a 10:00 a.m. start time and 10:00 p.m. ending time with the condition that the applicant submit a monthly calendar to the bayview station. >> i will second that. >> a point of clarification

is this daily or just weekend or seven 7 days a week? >> i read the permit as being everyday, although, is that not? >> it could be. it's up to you. >> it's up to us. you want to give it to her seven 7 days a week? >> again this goes to the question of licensing beyond what is necessary. do you do events monday through friday? >> it probably depends on when the holiday falls. >> our third on third event used to be on thursdays then we moved it for fridays for various reasons. sometimes, identify halloween for instance: we celebrate that when it's halloween.

>> it sounds like it could encompass monday through sunday with very little impact. >> yeah. there is not going to be daily events, anything like that. the permit would cover the bayview opera house property, third street area and mandel plaza, right? >> mandel plaza. according to the application it's just mandel plaza. >> i submitted two applications because i was told that jocelyn spoke to from the economic development department that we had to get two permits, one for mandel plaza and one 1 for third street. that's why i

submitted two applications. i'm concerned that once we move we are going to move activities inside the opera house and outside because we have this great new area and i would like that to be covered as well. >> the inside is going to be a different issue. >> we have an inside permit already. >> okay. i guess the bottom line what we have in front of us is mandel plaza. >> i understand. hang on one second. we did have two permit applications. i don't know why they didn't end up here, but under direction from the commission we can handle the second permit administratively. we don't have to come back here since the discussion is the same. mandel plaza has a different underlying jurisdiction, the department is in charge of one side

and not on the other side of the street. without getting complicated tonight, if the instruction is the same regarding the amplified sound we can address this similar to the one tonight. >> the third street application varies close to the mandel plaza? >> it's the same event. the event moves around depending on what we are doing. >> it's within 500 feet? >> yes. >> so this is third street between what and what? >> third street between mckinnon and peru. >> i would like to amend the motion to include that portion of the street. >> can i pause for a minute? should we ask the police? does the permit -- are you okay with that addition, the third street part?

>> how are you doing, the captain sent me down. he was business, obviously he's got a lot going on. to clarify, there is one street that runs in the middle of bayview opera house and mandel plaza. it's closed down for restructuring. they have been using mandel plaza. when they open up, the bayview house faces third street. we haven't had any problems there. they don't use both spaces all the time. it depends on what functions are going on. >> you don't have any objection? >> no. we haven't had any problems. >> this would be one permit approval encompassing both mandel plaza? >> correct. >> you are okay with that? >> yes. would it be easier to

stipulate the address for the bayview opera house and mandel plaza. >> i think we have two applications. >> it's 4702 third street? >> okay. >> that address is 4705. 4702 is the temporary office. we don't want just the opera house part of third street. we want third street on both sides of the street because that's where our events are from mckinnon to blew. we have from third to mandel plaza. >> what they are proposing sounds like no change to what has been done. >> yeah, it's gone on. i have been out

there 8 years. she works with the department as far as bayview station and let everyone know what's going on. i don't have any objection. i think we are good. >> to restate again then the motion is to include both mandel plaza and third street between mckinnon and paloo for the timeframe 10:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.. >> we have a motion and second. >> commissioner frost commissioner moshiayannis and commissioner lee. >> okay. i guess that's the end of the permits section. now it's commissioner comments and questions. anybody have any comments or questions?

no? >> yeah, i would like to welcome commissioner canino to the board and look forward to working with you and great job tonight. >> thank you. >> exactly. okay. anybody else? no. okay, any public comments on the commissioner comments or questions. okay, that part is closed. now new business for future items or agendas. i have one question. are we still going to make a decision on the 40-day issue like filling out last minute permits. do you still need a ruling on that? >> i do. as we left it, it was with the commission, not necessarily staff to come back to us with how those and what he's talking about to clarify and i'm sure you know what he's

talking about is a special permit procedure relative to certain dates of the year mostly holidays wheren staff has some direction around how late a permit can come in before we can necessarily not accept it or deny a permit for a special event out of the ordinary event. it was left in your hands although i'm not entirely clear on how you were to proceed, but it is in your court. >> okay. you guys want to ask president tan to maybe call, we should do something about it, give him some direction. so maybe, do we make that part of the record and say we want to refer this to president tan to make a decision at least a couple meetings from now?

>> sure. >> okay. that's the only question i have. >> then we did talk about it. have we agendaized making a vice-president? >> yes. we can put that on the agenda now that we have, all of our seats are full so we can put an election on the agenda and we will do that. >> okay. so anybody have anything else or any public comment on our future agenda? okay. i see none. we can go home now. meeting adjourned. thanks for the volunteering. >> great job filling in. thank you. [ meeting is adjourned ] >> >> -

>> how are you guys doing. >> i can't hear you guys. >> good. >> everybody is here to subtract is beautiful dogging u doggy. >> how about his bow tie and hesitate nice nose let me welcome you all to this very, very important event this been would think of the most important events for me (laughter) because when i first started working at the department of public works one evening i thought sitting that new mrirm

watching tv and do you know how windy it gets over here. >> yeah. >> you do i mean you must come from as you sit here now gates. >> no one from distancing gates so this is o'connor's school right so that wind had one of those doggy hats this one in particular this one right here used to be a restaurant across the street okay that restaurant over there and that wind blew the heads off yeah. i got this call the doggy had fallen and so they said you need to come and you need to get it to off the street and do something with it thanks to the neighborhood you guys radical and said we should save the head

the can you go i didn't head that responsibility was given to us at the department of public works and at a time the head of our department was our mayor and our mayor and he make sure that we got the money and everything we needed to get the doggy head fixed and back to this new location so how about a big hand for the mayor for his leadership (clapping.) the other thing he did was the day the head came back in 2005 was valentine's day isn't that special. >> yeah. i didn't. >> i'm sure you're getting ready for valentine's day coming up. >> yeah. >> without further ado i'm going to introduce the mayor he'll tell you about the doggie diner and welcome our mayor give him a big handed.

>> mohammed explicit tell you that night what the doggy head was fallen guess who called him yes because i was awning were around to make sure that everything was done that was the job of public works to make sure that everything gets done and everything is safe i want to say thank you to mohammed to help us to secure that medium area so all of our wonderful sdts students from u low can be here in the middle of the street humidities can you be in the middle of the student street and be safe just when we have valentine's day we'll celebrate this with the doggie diner head i'm really, really glad and also glad to share that with our supervisor supervisor katie tang

she's here work relay really, really hard representing you all that live around here and working with me and mohammed and paychecks to make those streets safety just up a couple of blocks we put in new lighting light when you and your parents and friends categorize cross the street it is heavy traffic we don't have straddles to slow down the traffic guess what happens yeah. one of those days you'll be the supervisor and the head of public works or you can even be - >> the - >> i was gagging going to say the doggie diner head you said the mayor it's pretty sure i'm kind of in the little time crush so overwhelming o to have to

leave i'm going to have someone to welcome important in san francisco guess what. >> kaing. >> investigated you've got them trained i'm going up to the airport to let this person know who i met with you students i'll be greeting president obama he's coming in and i'm going to tell him it was really tough to decide between the students of u low or making it on time for the airport for him it's important thank you for being good students and being here in the middle of the street with me it's safe don't do this amendment thank you for celebrating valentine's day week with doggie diner i hope you and your teachers and parent can also know that the city is working

for you when with you grew up i want you to remember to celebrate the doggie diner but my age in two years okay 3 thank you have a great valentine's day you enjoy user and have a good weekend and enjoy yourselves we have cookies and refreshments afterward thank you very much enjoy. >> thank you (clapping.) okay. a the history you guys how many 6 you have history class okay so the doggie diner head has been around since 1966 okay 1966 all over america and gradually you started to losses him i want to thank and give you a big applause because he's

made that a hobby to collect and safe history so we have those heads from former restaurant please give them a loud applause for the history. >> (clapping.) can we get a picture of the mayor. >> come on (laughter) okay. so the next person i'm going to introduce is someone a friend of mine but someone who really takes care of the this district she's got quite a few a amount of real estate she's reb8 for that our baechdz and some of our parks and all the sunset area making sure that the grass gets water and the trash gets picked up and all the graffiti is removed and the district gets it's share of what san francisco

gets please welcome sxhaurng. >> hello boys and girls are h how are you guys you look lovely in your hats i tried to give one to the mayor to give to president obama we saw some of our classrooms and i travel here almost everyday so i will make sure that if the doggie diner head falls down every this i'll report it to mohammed so we want to make sure we celebrate con in san francisco it is the only way designated as san francisco please remember this moment and come to visit to make sure he's okay and since it's valentine's day coming up i hope he has a boyfriend or girl to celebrate do you think he has one.

>> yeah. >> we hope you have a really fun day we have today some things to color by hate ashbury has. >> let's have a show of hands i need to thank all the people that make this event happen rachel borden and rachel and her team she's got all the refreshments and everything and alison for special projects and ashley from katz i didn't see office give another hand (clapping.) all right. ready to have some fun and a little bit of drinks and coloring okay. thank you all for coming he really appreciate that this you guys

have administrative code made this happy give yourselves a big hand thank you very much thank you

>> i'd like to call the meeting to order thank you everyone fewer patience i was waiting for a full house roll call please. commissioner makras commissioner cohen commissioner bridges commissioner driscoll commissioner melberger commissioner paskin-jordan mr. stansburg would you state your name is present. >> thank you. plea