proper signatures i'll look forward to the comments until the property owner has had an opportunity to see the process and i'll be more than happy on rebuttal to give the departments position thank you. >> ms. lobe our up. >> i don't have a lot to say this is all public record i have private information i'm not going to share. >> your name, ma'am. >> i'm not going to give my name anyone that wants to stalk someone could go online i can't give personal information to move this forward i can do it in

confidentiality if i could do an closed session meeting and i don't know didn't happen still not going to happen i can't defend myself in public there are things that are happening and putting abatement on this property is holding me back i can't get insurance it's like the less you have the less you have everyone has lawyers except me like a cash checking service the poor people have to pay to get their checks cashes cashed the rich people they get perks for having money in the bank so this is where i feel i'm at is i'm fortunate that i almost have a house the way you're dealing with that i doesn't i don't have

a lawyer or representation and there are things that are happening to make it happen but the mayor's office has problems and mayor's office of housing not the mayor's office i don't know about that though i've tried to contact the mayor himself and they don't respond to my e-mails or phone calls in order to get some help it's not as bad as it sounds things are taking longer than and the abatement is really, really bad because all the companies and insurance companies and the banks they look on line for everything so every time you do things like that it is harder i have things to share but not on record i

can't do it there's reasons i explained to rosemary without off record i'll share off record not think record. >> commissioner walker from our documents here basically, their waiting for a signature from the mayor's office of housing for them to going forward what's happening with that. >> i can't share this information online on the whole world i can share it but not share it with the with whole world can hear it. >> if rosemary can come up for a rebuttals please. >> so as you can see is from the e-mails from the mayor's office there's another individual on title we need that

signature before we go forward that's what is the holding it up and mrs. lobe can't go got p i have a so so many other cases this is a record that's been continued 6 times at this time you don't see any way clear for us to we'll have permission to the appeals board to proceed do with the holding we've give the property owner adequate time to proceed that didn't mean after the order is issued and enforced she can't follow-up with the mayor's office at this stage he know the mayor's office is understaffed and they can't evaluate with that matter. >> can i ask you the mechanics of having a 1257bd order

presents a problem with the mayor's office of housing. >> that's a good question we're more happen to sub donate to meet with that but at this staged they can't moved we'll work with them in a subordination providing we get the documents we've be happy to work with the property owners on that. >> i just had a question so because there's another person on the title was that person or contacted by the mayor's office are they aware of the n o b there's another property owner. >> the interviews into to the contract information that's on

record. >> what the department just the i just said. >> i'm doing everything i can it takes time the department is just very good at 0 following exactly what they think they should be doing without toougs i have proof i'm moving forward not on in signature but the document i did not realize it was a copy rather than an original i had already contacted legal that people and the other

person i'm waiting for a response i can't say anything more i've done everything i can at the moment this is basically it is punishing me for things - it is out of my control at the moment i explained at the beginning there's problems all they do is pay attention to people that want to punish me by fighting the how is it is a catch-22 in my neighborhood anyway so you're just helping the process to punish me rather than assist the mayor's office of housing has problems which i accidently didn't realize we are trying to make - they can pass it through i brought the document with me and in fact, i'm not sure they needed the

document but i did bring it it happened to be a copy i did not realize rather than notaries i did not realize that or have it redone they can punish me all they want but every time they do it makes it harder that's a catch-22 i'm going to turn around and find someone had will help me and you can put everything you wanted i pay i'm a taxpayer i'm the one that pays those people's salaries to punish me so i don't need to share high personal information for the whole world to know about so expressing every thing that is happening in my life is not necessary moderating. >> thank you mrs. lobe.

>> commissioner did you want to make a motion. >> mrs. lobe how long in your mind would a continuance need to be for you to get your side in place? >> there's letters i stopped doing e-mails and i made certified letters i put another certified letter in yesterday i believe the person maybe out of the country if in their not ronald's i have no idea it is possible that - because the other person is acquit responsible and really doesn't hold anything against me like that but could you been out of the country likely i don't know

and it would be embarrassing without kg people i'd rather than find out family affairs are messy like i said i don't think that if the person was aware of the situation that the person would not - the person would do it, it's not a big deal it was done a long time ago and i contacted the lawyers that originally did the document and the lawyers i have the e-mail from the lawyer saying that she's stressed the document and said she didn't remember the case but shredded everything too much information. >> thank you. >> thank you.

>> does someone want to make a motion. >> is there room for public comment or do we have to have - >> do you want to make a motion commissioner. >> first, i'd like to is that things come before us and not being movement towards resolving it we have in this case given a lot of leeway and tried to provide every opportunity even through the mayor's office of housing i hear that it is overwhelming i'm hopefully as i make the motion it allows for surveillance by i move to uphold

the order of abatement and provided 60 days to get the permits and allow for the work to be done and ask that maybe our code enforcement people who might have please sit. >> yeah. mrs. lobe. >> thank you. >> that we try and get counseling from our code enforcement group they're well versed at trying to address some of the situations as we do it so uphold the order of abatement hold in abeyance for 60 days we have a second. >> second. >> okay take a roll call vote. >> commissioner melgar

commissioner mccarthy commissioner mar commissioner mccray and commissioner walker. >> okay. the order of abatement is held so we'll go to the next case case no. 67991 2 35 z samson street. >> good morning. >> for the department the address 1, 2, 35 v samson street a vacant lot the violation is u.s. bancorp stabilize hillside now the abatement was issued november 6th of 2012 we're not showing a permit that deals with the violation and staff recommends to uphold the

order of abatement and that that concludes my report. >> thank you. is there representative for the owner? come on up please. >> yes. i'm eric woods i'm the owner of record for 1235 sanderson street i apologize for putting everyone through so much trouble i had we have just currently started a soils report that covers 7 of the properties between sanderson, union and alta so union street it's the entire vacant i'll call it a hill some people call it a cliff

problem with it taking time has been that there are 6 property owners involved in the forest now and possibly wrongly but i felt inspector matthewer at the building inspection felt that to take on soils report piecemeal was one it is inefficient not getting the information you need but frankly in my opinion it leads to quarrels between the property owners how shall i put it with who's loss rock belongs to who we're going forward on this basis i've done what i

could to get the adjacent commercial building owners appraised of what we're doing the problem being that over the years the slides on union street are controversial they've come into the newspapers and now engineers out there with ropes and orange hats and people wondering what we're up to so i'm sorry, i didn't pickup on the fact i was supposed to prepare 20 copies or so but hopefully, you've got the proposal that is the one they're doing they started last week and they've frankly the very last page it was actually not part of it the front of the proposal indicates which properties we're talking about

and there's actually, one more included under a separate contract that is one of the i'm sorry 202 union street and so that brings us to the 5 owners and the 7 properties engineers will meet with us when we're done with it. >> commissioner walker. >> yes. thanks for coming in what is your assessment that the time is needed to go through the process and come to some sort of solution to the notice of violation. >> the engineers report just - putting that many property owners and that's not that many together was like herod cats so

i think that the final engineers ought to be out at 90 days they're proposing to meet with us in 2 weeks. >> so it comes to us because there's an imminent hazard we have to try - >> certainly one of the things i've noticed the photographs some of the topographic models in the package one the keys things in there i think is we're making a current took up gravel survey and locating the property on the hill it is not entirely clear and the photographs in the package it is not entirely clear where the properties are actually 1235

sanderson of the - of those is the most stable that actually is the rock faced next to the baker building that has the sewer lines on the street on the surface and so i think one of the key things here is when the properties are marked then we can determine which property has hazards. i don't think i'm being clear >> well, no i understand that but i mean that can be done whether we act or not so that issue can be resolved and the other issue i don't know. >> i think that what i'm asking to move forward with this solution to stabilize the hill regardless of what you're discussing your civil issues how

long would it take to get 30e78 people out there to do that the directors hearing is thirty days to get an engineering report and 5 days to obtain soil recommendation and thirty days to do the work. >> that's impossible. >> well, i mean. >> the work it's the work itself when it goes you'll see it maybe no secret that on the lower sanderson street footage i'm planning to build a building there on that is one way to stabilize the hill as part of the foundation design we'll get into issues with basically putting grade beans on the surface and drilling into the

surface so it's all tied together with the entire hill you know - >> are you saying that you want to wait until i r you get our building approved. >> no, thank you there's - the other issue so you know and this will come out of the work that's going on is the fact that the private property didn't begin at the because of the hill as you're driving along sanderson you'll see the vegetation and everything the city right-of-way actually will be found to be located up the slope and union and alley to street that are undeveloped on either side of the properties and the slides that make the newspapers are actually in the

union the city's union street right-of-way so the engineers are going out to the mid point in the pt of union with their work. >> i would think that we'll have the first informed look at the hill and many, many years here shortly but i would have to say it is 60 to 90 days. >> okay. thank you. >> the department back up for rebuttal please. >> just to mention that the generated were there on december 2012 so we have all this time past and like to see something solid that's my comments thanks.

>> thank you do we have a chance for public comment. >> rebuttal i think. >> oh. >> rebuttal. (laughter) that's sort of expressed it we'll like to see something happen but i think it needs to as - actually that was steve your department that suggested we all get together and not have a war here. >> a few years later and i want to remind the board under the life safety hazards there are time constraint to be followed. >> can you tell us what they are. >> the board finds there is a life safety hazard that shall provide for immediate protection for the public and this must be

completed within 90 days. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> yeah. i mean obviously this is a complex going forward this reporting is done the next question will you have to get everybody together i don't think this is going to be - it is not everybody is on board with the properties here so i don't think whatever timeframe we're dealing with here this is something that's going to go open for quite a few and the 90 days is going to be the report everybody is going to concur that you know this hill can slide further so - i don't

see how we can go forward with this appeal at this stage. >> commissioner walker. >> i agree i think it is complicated but a lot of the complications need to be resolved you'll i'll move to uphold the order of abatement and have 90 days as directed as we identify an imminent hazard which this is so that requires that something begin within thirty days and work complete to stabilize efficient to reduce the hazard by 90 days. >> second. >> would that include the assessment of cost. >> assessment of costs yes thank you. >> commissioner walker is it possible to be more specific as

to what needs to be done in 90 days. >> in that this is identified as a unstable imminent hazy move to uphold the order of abatement that within thirty device soil engineers report on a remedy to correct the unstable hillside and 5 days for the soil recommendation and thirty excuse me. 90 days including the inspection and uphold okay. is that good? yeah. >> so and we have a second on that. >> commissioner a roll call vote vote commissioner melgar commissioner mccarthy commissioner mar

commissioner mccray and commissioner walker the order of abatement and assessment costs is upheld. >> okay. we are now on you're showing item g and h but it should be item e and f at the end item e is general public comment do we have any general public comment public comment as it relates to the abatement i abatement appeals board. seeing none item f adjournment may i have a motion for adjournment >> second. >> commissioner walker we're adjourned it is 946 we'll be

starting with the building inspection commission meeting at