it was actually not part of it the front of the proposal indicates which properties we're talking about and there's actually, one more included under a separate contract that is one of the i'm sorry 202 union street and so that brings us to the 5 owners and the 7 properties engineers will meet with us when we're done with it. >> commissioner walker. >> yes. thanks for coming in what is your assessment that the time is needed to go through the process and come to some sort of solution to the notice of violation. >> the engineers report just -

putting that many property owners and that's not that many together was like herod cats so i think that the final engineers ought to be out at 90 days they're proposing to meet with us in 2 weeks. >> so it comes to us because there's an imminent hazard we have to try - >> certainly one of the things i've noticed the photographs some of the topographic models in the package one the keys things in there i think is we're making a current took up gravel survey and locating the property on the hill it is not entirely

clear and the photographs in the package it is not entirely clear where the properties are actually 1235 sanderson of the - of those is the most stable that actually is the rock faced next to the baker building that has the sewer lines on the street on the surface and so i think one of the key things here is when the properties are marked then we can determine which property has hazards. i don't think i'm being clear >> well, no i understand that but i mean that can be done whether we act or not so that issue can be resolved and the other issue i don't know.

>> i think that what i'm asking to move forward with this solution to stabilize the hill regardless of what you're discussing your civil issues how long would it take to get 30e78 people out there to do that the directors hearing is thirty days to get an engineering report and 5 days to obtain soil recommendation and thirty days to do the work. >> that's impossible. >> well, i mean. >> the work it's the work itself when it goes you'll see it maybe no secret that on the lower sanderson street footage i'm planning to build a building there on that is one way to stabilize the hill as part of

the foundation design we'll get into issues with basically putting grade beans on the surface and drilling into the surface so it's all tied together with the entire hill you know - >> are you saying that you want to wait until i r you get our building approved. >> no, thank you there's - the other issue so you know and this will come out of the work that's going on is the fact that the private property didn't begin at the because of the hill as you're driving along sanderson you'll see the vegetation and everything the city right-of-way actually will be found to be located up the slope and union and alley to

street that are undeveloped on either side of the properties and the slides that make the newspapers are actually in the union the city's union street right-of-way so the engineers are going out to the mid point in the pt of union with their work. >> i would think that we'll have the first informed look at the hill and many, many years here shortly but i would have to say it is 60 to 90 days. >> okay. thank you. >> the department back up for rebuttal please. >> just to mention that the

generated were there on december 2012 so we have all this time past and like to see something solid that's my comments thanks. >> thank you do we have a chance for public comment. >> rebuttal i think. >> oh. >> rebuttal. (laughter) that's sort of expressed it we'll like to see something happen but i think it needs to as - actually that was steve your department that suggested we all get together and not have a war here. >> a few years later and i want to remind the board under the life safety hazards there are time constraint to be followed. >> can you tell us what they

are. >> the board finds there is a life safety hazard that shall provide for immediate protection for the public and this must be completed within 90 days. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> yeah. i mean obviously this is a complex going forward this reporting is done the next question will you have to get everybody together i don't think this is going to be - it is not everybody is on board with the properties here so i don't think whatever timeframe we're dealing with here this is something that's going to go open for quite a few and the 90 days is going to be

the report everybody is going to concur that you know this hill can slide further so - i don't see how we can go forward with this appeal at this stage. >> commissioner walker. >> i agree i think it is complicated but a lot of the complications need to be resolved you'll i'll move to uphold the order of abatement and have 90 days as directed as we identify an imminent hazard which this is so that requires that something begin within thirty days and work complete to stabilize efficient to reduce the hazard by 90 days. >> second.

>> would that include the assessment of cost. >> assessment of costs yes thank you. >> commissioner walker is it possible to be more specific as to what needs to be done in 90 days. >> in that this is identified as a unstable imminent hazy move to uphold the order of abatement that within thirty device soil engineers report on a remedy to correct the unstable hillside and 5 days for the soil recommendation and thirty excuse me. 90 days including the inspection and uphold okay. is that good? yeah. >> so and we have a second on

that. >> commissioner a roll call vote vote commissioner melgar commissioner mccarthy commissioner mar commissioner mccray and commissioner walker the order of abatement and assessment costs is upheld. >> okay. we are now on you're showing item g and h but it should be item e and f at the end item e is general public comment do we have any general public comment public comment as it relates to the abatement i abatement appeals board. seeing none item f adjournment

may i have a motion for adjournment >> second. >> commissioner walker we're adjourned it is 946 we'll be starting with the building inspection commission meeting at

10 o'clock. >> thank you for waiting it is new 1003 good morning today is march 18, 2015, this is the regular meeting of building inspection commission once again turn off all electronic devises interest commissioner president mccarthy commissioner vice president mar commissioner mccray commissioner melgar and commissioner walker commissioner clinch and commissioner lee are excused we have quorum and the next item on the agenda is president announcements. >> good morning, everybody. and thank you for coming to the march 18, 2015 meeting i have president short announcements yesterday a long day we're trying to get through this morning here thank you, commissioners i am or want to apologize in advance for miss

prominence director duffy and mechanic review jane and william strong and others participated with supervisor katie tang planning staff and more than 60 local residents and town hall meeting there were many questions about the dbi permit and code enforcement and as well as temples required to legalize the in-law units and how to proceed with specific remolding projects director huey is drafting an article with the focus on building inspection services and code enforcement due to insure the life safety elements and fire safeties it was timely particularly in the multiple alarm fires in the mission and the tenderloin neighborhoods deploying welcomed the

opportunity to communicate with the owners of the apartment building and key action items that are owners be responsibility for the issues and the whole sprinkler systems we'll be talking about and kudos and thanks to the dbi staff celebrating the year of ram and the plan review staff attend and code enforcement staff and others inspector ken and housing inspectors and dennis and others the dbi was busy with code quizzes and free smoke alarms with the new 10 year battery thank you for dbi they're participating in the annual project pole that the city high

school interning program that is is an 8 week program the students are meridian from june to august 7th in the past is two years dbi has projects with the interims and have provide invaluable assistance to staff we're awaiting staff applications for all the dbi applications in the next few weeks to see who the interims are so good luck with that program and finally once again asking the dbi staff and managers to nominate our quarterly one january and march employee of the quarter if you know of someone providing obviously professional services send our recommendations to the website and the nominations and in the late march with the

winner in april 15th building inspection commission that mr. secretary clukz community colleges my presidents announcements. >> any questions seeing none, i'd like to calling your attention that item number 6 was an appeal for 1142 grer are a street we've been asked by the attorneys payroll the tenant has hired a new attorney and trying to workout without coming before the commission so we would like to continue this if need be and not hear it today. >> if in objection we'll continue that to the table. >> okay. thank you item 67 will think continued. >> any public comment on this item? >> commissioner walker please. let's make sure that is continued to the next meeting. >> okay to the april meeting.

>> just point of order are they requesting it. >> they were trying to work it out it may not have to be heard i'll contact them and is we need to know by april. >> thank you. >> if the attorney wants to clarify. >> thank you, commissioners ryan for the property owners we'll ask for the scheduling at the next hearing and try to resolve things in the meantime. >> so if no objection we'll continue that item. >> item 3 is general public comment the bic will take public comment within the matters of jurisdiction not part of the agenda. >> is there any public comment? on items not on the agenda

seeing item 4 item 4 is a continued item also from the last meeting discussion and possible action for the proposed ordinance to the board of supervisors file number 141298 amending the building miff code to have antagonizes for exterior noise and field testing in some circumstances in addition to other requirements and regulations do we have someone from the supervisors office yes. >> good morning connor legislative aid to board president london breed i'll try to be brief and give you a little bit of the background. >> what it does and how it impacts the building inspection so by way of background

supervisor breed starting to look at this issue because of the venue on divisadero called the have understood a night life venue in the neighborhood and facing the prospective the rad major building being converted into condominiums on the side and back they were concerned and supervisor breed was concerned the new neighbors in others retains might complain and put the tenant in a position to do additional sound tests or cease to have live music so supervisor breed wanted to look at how we accommodate the arrange growth near the night life venues particularly in neighbors neighborhoods there not residents we see residents in the south of market that were previously nor commercial and light industrial we've got to be

able to accommodate about uses just to put a finer point on this we've seen in the last couple of years a large number of popular night life venues guest of businesslike club kokomo and the sound factory the bottom of the hill is facing pressure from the nearby development and the lexington club my close and looking at the elbow room in upper market so this is important not only socially and culture by thely but collectively our night life is an important part of what makes san francisco san francisco and bring 16 million customers in every year and $800 million dollars in steven e spending and according to the controller's office 43 percent of other residents in bay area come to san francisco do so to

visit a bar or theatre 43 percent so we wanted to find a way to allow those two uses to co-exist as the city expand its profile we sat down with developers and including your president thank you commissioner president mccarthy the police department and the department of public health and planning and dbi the entertainment commission and van hot ton and the result of those communications and meetings and many city attorney hours is the legislation you see before you let me briefing walk through this from a high-level for the most part on the front end when a project is done within 3 hundred feet of a entertainment place the place of entertainment will be notified of a pending interest to develop near the venue the entertainment

commission will hold a hearing on the development and it's relationship to the venue and that's not a hearing for the pirpsz of determining building standards or issuing the permits that's innovate the building inspection expertise their area of expertise getting the venues and neighbors to avoid conflict they'll be holding a hearing with the developer how can we co-exist and our hours are okay with the neighbors and the patrons won't be wandering outside the venue those are issues everyday that's the purpose of that hearing the second major component of the legislation if a venue is operating within the terms of the permit the city has issued it can't be deemed a legal nuisance we want the terms that businesses are abiding by the city has an responsibility to

live up to the bargain and third potentially the most important part of the legislation if there's residential development within 3 hundred feet of an existing venue whether a purchaser or tenant they'll be notified by the seller there is a tenant nearby that's before the tenant or purchaser moves in we see a lot of examples with the entertainment commission deals with people that vista condo they buy t and fingerprint suddenly they're calling the police department to do everything to impact that venue and shut it down we want to avoid that and make sure that people know what they're getting into before they rent a home and specifically with the building inspection you'll see on the front end of the legislation

building codes 4074 through 9 this language we didn't create it is adapt from the state codes and moved it into the local codes that deals with the allowable sound codes and how the sound map impacts the loushlg sound limits and the nature of field testing the standards that will be implemented to consultation the field testing this is not our baby i zigzagged discussed it at length with the code committee they asked for an outside consultant a so we did that and just so that i know we followed through an their recommendation he heard back if mr. sullivan terse office that says the laungsz is standard so i'll present that language is not our

baby it's incorporated from the state code so, please don't ask me dmraltd questions about it that's the high-level of documentation so ultimately the objective to start the communication early we want to protect the venues and make sure that people are happy in their homes as the city goes about creating thousands and thousands of residential unit we have to protect the reason why people want to live here in the friend the culture and the night life that go legislation is an important stvm so i want to thank the broad coalition including the culture music and your code advisory committee and the small business commission supported it last week and

supervisor wiener signed on as an early co-that signer and ben the who is affiliated and owns several bars in the city set up an online petition that shall say over 29 hundred signatures and last time the entertainment commission advocated for it we're doing a road show this week i'm grateful and on behalf of supervisor breed ask for your support. >> thank you. i have a few questions. >> commissioner vice president mar. >> i want to thank the supervisors office for putting this legislation forward i was involved in some of the problems specifically with the slims night club they had a lot of complaints after the new condos

were up they've been there in many, many years this is much needed legislation you guys have done a great job including our advisory committee it is something we have to deal with people are buying condos and you talk about someone visiting on tuesday they'll buy is site unseen bra the condo is built online or something i don't know how they do that and they move in and does understand the history of the neighborhood. >> commissioner walker please. yeah. thank you and thank the supervisor many of us have been involved south of market and 11th street we've already lost so many of our entertainment venues so this is really an

important step so what about existing buildings i mean my understanding is that most that came around 11th street have an n s r on their title but there are still has been complaints lodged go is there any third degree that specifically deals are existing buildings in this location. >> that's a great question commissioner we originally defined the tophic for narrowly after the place of entertainment has been in operation for 12 months as we worked through the process we wanted to broaden that they should follow the same processes so the legislation you'll see provides that no nuisance provision after 2005 but let's go back 10 years the building standards have been

robust and they should accommodate places like this and yeah. >> commissioner. >> yeah. i'm looking section 11610 and those related that deal with no private right or action against the city. >> uh-huh and what raises only through the planning department will there be any oversight on the part of the city in this process is that how we plug in as a city and then dbi how do we do we have regulatory oversight of this or just all personal initiative private initiative. >> there are a variety of steps in the process commissioner, i think that one of the ways that dbi will be involved early 0 open you'll be receiving represents after they hold their hearing to remedies