of information and then request additional funds, or would we just have to say no? >> we would have to say no or get the board or some other body to give us money to fund it. the one thing i'm looking at, the cca's tile reports are extremely technical and extremely expensive. when you see other reports that get done at a level for a lafco or for a big picture government agency, there is really not anywhere near as costly as cca reports have been. there was a request for suspicious-looking (inaudible) it turns out the requester is not gopbt toing come to this body and request us to do that. yeah, they will need a report on that and it will cost them about 25,000 to do a report. the reports is

not referring to those costs in this because normally speaking you don't get to the level you need. you are getting into they technical stuff that you get away with just drinking water every day ?l. just echoing commissioner breed's administrative -- the clerk's officery, i want you to know what the breakdown is on that and also to look at the 13-14 budget would be helpful. i'm inclined to say that we're probably in line with the budget this year unless, you know, for the fy15-16 year, unless there's some sort of consideration to make for the

committee clerk salary and benefits just so that we would have if enough in the budget if we wanted to use outside consultant services. but i think that just echoing back to commissioner lindo's thoughts on what do we do after that, is that we'll have a greater need for outside services as we sort of switch gears into a body that's not so consumed with cca >> i will definitely, i have the notes to get the 13-14 budget. i think that's something that's pretty easy for the clerk's office to produce for us, and i will talk to the clerk's office about the half clerk assignment and probably have someone come and present at the next meeting when we do the budget. what i would recommend is that you approve what's in front of you today so our process can keep moving forward. tpb not

approval of the actual budget, we come back next month and we'll be able to hopefully answer your questions and you can approve or disapprove and we can accept the proposed budget and bring that back to the body and make an actual decision at the next meeting on the budget itself. >> you have possible action, xavier. i for one see the need to have a reserve to pay for consultant services so i would like to keep that in and it's something that can be rolled over year and year if we don't use. i don't think it makes sense that we tie our hands from doing new work that a consultant could provide for us, setting direction for lafco. so i'm okay making that

one-time allocation. we can continue it year after year if we need to and essentially lafco's operate on a budget that's continued year after year, it's been looked out in a research for a sense and not taken city and county funds for cca going forward. i'm looking forward to that. i wasn't expecting to have a vote today even though it's a possible action item before. it hasn't been my experience necessarily that we interim budget

and before the 3 4 f1vote, commissioner breed. >> i don't feel i have enough information with certain items on the budget to say i'm comfortable moving it forward. based on things in the past that we discussed as possible action, as far as i was concerned, gave us the opportunity to determine whether or not we take action and i get that you have done it this way in the past in terms of taking action, but i just think that there's too much uncertainty to make me feel comfortable about moving the budget forward today. >> you are not moving the budget forward today, you are approving -- what you are doing is you are saying we've had this hearing, we've accepted this hearing, we've been presented with a budget, it now needs to go to the city and county of san francisco and come back and have discussion and actual real action on the

budget at the next meeting. what you are doing today is not an actual budget, what you are saying is we've held this hearing, it's been heard and we are moving foreforward with the process itself. at the next meeting if you decide you are not comfortable approving a budget because we haven't answered all your questions, i would say, yes, allow the process to continue to move so we can get the answers you are looking for and have a more rebust discussion at the next meeting. >> so is there a resolution outlining that so i can feel confident that that's specifically what i am approving? you are telling me something verbally but we don't have what we are approving as relates to any written communication because my understanding from how we've dealt with this situation in the past is we have approved was before us. so it would be helpful to know if there's a resolution that we are basically disagreeing he could use this as a draft budget in

order to negotiate moving forward with the budget, that would make more sense to me. but in essence what i'm saying now is i support this budget budget, which i don't, and moving on forward in the future if i decide i don't want to support it at this time then i'm basically changing my mind about supporting it. that's how i see it. >> first off, you are not approving a budget today, that's not what the potential was, what's being here is you are acknowledging that we've had this hearing, what we've presented a budget at this hearing. there are clearly questions that need to be addressed and we will address them --. >> i hear what you're saying. >> we've never done this by resolution. it's always just been a motion saying, acknowledging that this has occurred and to communicate to the city and county that this has been met at this point and that we could make changes, to

the degree you want to say you can make changes because you had changes on x, y and z, by all means do that and that can be part of the communication we send to the city and county. >> i guess i don't understand why it's necessary. >> lisa is looking up the code. >> government code 56381 requires the commission to adopt annually the proposed budget by may 1st. >> by when? >> may 1st. >> that's all you have in terms of --. >> i'm still reading the rest of it. >> so our clerk is still looking at the legislative code so what we can do, take additional comments, i think if commissioner breed still wants to continue , after that mr. lindo and then we'll go to public comment and hope we get an answer. mr. lindo. >> thank you. no, i was

thinking, i think the code is going to clarify this. but it seems like there is a legislative requirement that is hovering over your head that you need to present something to someone, if i'm not mistaken. but it doesn't have to be an approved budged. is that right? >> we don't approve a final budget until the second of the hearings and this is our first hearing. >> is it possible to approve a budged submitted by our executive director and you need to relay that information to, that we've relayed it and we will be voetding on it at our next meeting? >> are you talking about the proposed budget or the final budget? >> it sounds like you need a vote to say that we saw them, it's under review, and we will vote on it for a final version at a later date. >> from what i understand of

the process is we need to knowledge that we've done this and that we're communicating a proposed budget. it is not by any stretch of the imagination a final budget. there is still work that needs to be done on t because we have may 1st to do it, you could decide not to do anything, but we would have to have another properly noticed meeting. >> we could also just take action next week and have an official vote next week, next month. correct? >> correct. one of the things to keep in mind. >> you could decide we need to do another properly noticed meeting. there's a special notice that needs to be put out. >> let's not belabor this. if we're not ready to have a vote, let's not do a vote. i'd

rather work out the differences over the next month, not just coming to the next lafco meeting but working with our offices and the folks here and the clerk in the interim and then we can have a spepbs going on next lafco meeting. i don't want here next lafco meeting unless they change the date. so why don't we open this up for public comment? >> good afternoon again, commissioners, eric brooks, san francisco green party, our city and san francisco clean energy advocates. so on this item i would also, i'm kind of glad you are postponing this. i understand where director fried is coming from, but i think there's a lot that needs to be thought about. one has to do with the budget

for the director and staff themselves. we expect that community choice will probably go along swimmingly early next year. however, i just want to remind, i know you have heard this ad nauseam, but it's so important that the reason the advocates have pushed this program for so long and worked to get it off the ground for so long is my tenants said the local buildout. that may not be flushed out entirely and we may need commissioner porter and diligence than we might think. so let's be prepared. after cca does get off the ground, i think there are so many things that are so crucial that are coming up. once cca is put to bed, myself and a lot of other advocates community

broad band is are groiing to make that our no. 1 priority. we've got the public banking issue that was brought up by commissioner avalos that also may need to be explored. we've got issues of getting the mta to expand. i think the role is lafco is to get the city to do a more visionary policy, then we've got some very serious housing issues that we want to take up with study work at lafco. there's a lot of stuff we need to fund and i would urge you to give yourself the latitude to be flexible and able to do this. we've been able to do this. we've been very generous . >> thank you very much. we will close public comment. this item do we want to continue or we can file it. >> i would suggest continuing

it to the next april meeting. >> so we'll continue this item to the call of the chair. we can take that, colleagues, without objection? >> first and second? >> actually, mr. chair, if you would like to make plans to change the meeting so that you are able to attend in order to participate in the discussion around the budget i am open to that. so i'm not certain that we should specify the date that we are going to hear this item. >> question, can i -- do we have to do a decision here to change the date for next year's meeting or in the interim we can do that? >> we can do a pole and find out which would work, i would have to check with the clerk's office about proper neat ising

so we can get that notice done properly. >> if we can have a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair and then we can set the special date. >> so moved. >> motion from commissioner breed, seconded by commissioner cruz and we'll cake that without objection. >> okay, let's go on with our next item. abl there's a lot to add. >> can i call the item first? item no. 5, executive officer's report. a, status update regarding the study on the implementation and opportunities for undergrounding wires and expansion of fiber networks in san francisco and, b, status update regarding the study on open source elections. >> we're moving forward through the two items mentioned. we should have a report next week on the undergrounding expansion report. we should have

something next week and i will put it out on the web site, submitted to all the folks who i know are submitted on our side and then give a presentation the next meeting about that report and we are continuing to work on the open source one as well. we might have both reports ready to go for the next meeting since we have our amazing intern working on that one. finally, just a reminder, that april 1st is when your sunshine ethics and form 700 forms are due. if you are a member of the board of supervisors and you filled it out there, you are covered. please get your forms and stuff in so we have 100 percent participation. thank you. >> great. this item is now open up for public comment. public comment is open to the executive officer's report. >> good afternoon, iep steven edwards from the san francisco

coalition to underground utilities. first i'd like to thank director fried for his assistance in trying to get the undergrounding of electrical and communications telecommunications utilities undergrounded. this is a perfect use for lafco and i would agree with previous speaker who said that the budget for lafco is exactly to study this kind of thing and for you to continue to have an adequate budget means that an infrastructure project that cannot be researched by individuals or the general public can still be funded and studied by lafco. so thank you very much, director fried. >> thank you, any other member of the public who would like to comment? seeing none we will close public comment and go on to our next item. >> item no. 6, public comment. >> public comment again. any member of the public who would like to comment? seeing no one come forward we will close public comment and our next item.

>> item no. 7, future agenda items. >> okay, colleagues, any future issues to bring forward? okay, we will have public comment on future agenda items and we'll close public and go to our last item. >> item no. 8, adjournment. >> colleagues, we are adjourned. i would like to thank jennifer low and bill dylon for their work broadcasting today's lafco meeting. (meeting adjourned).

as a society we've basically failed big portion of our population if you think about the basics of food, shelter safety a lot of people don't have any of those i'm mr. cookie can't speak for all the things but i know say, i have ideas how we can address the food issue. >> open the door and walk through that don't just stand looking out. >> as they grew up in in a how would that had access to good food and our parent cooked this is how you feed yours this is not happening in our country this is a huge pleasure i'm david one of the co-founder

so about four year ago we worked with the serviced and got to know the kid one of the things we figured out was that they didn't know how to cook. >> i heard about the cooking school through the larkin academy a. >> their noting no way to feed themselves so they're eating a lot of fast food and i usually eat whatever safeway is near my home a lot of hot food i was excited that i was eating lunch enough instead of what and eat. >> as i was inviting them over teaching them basic ways to fix good food they were so existed. >> particle learning the skills and the food they were really go

it it turned into the is charity foundation i ran into my friend we were talking about this this do you want to run this charity foundations and she said, yes. >> i'm a co-found and executive director for the cooking project our best classes participation for 10 students are monday they're really fun their chief driven classes we have a different guest around the city they're our stand alone cola's we had a series or series still city of attorney's office style of classes our final are night life diners. >> santa barbara shall comes in and helps us show us things and this is one the owners they help

us to socialize and i've been here about a year. >> we want to be sure to serve as many as we can. >> the san francisco cooking school is an amazing amazing partner. >> it is doing that in that space really elevates the space for the kids special for the chief that make it easy for them to come and it really makes the experience pretty special. >> i'm sutro sue set i'm a chief 2, 3, 4 san francisco. >> that's what those classes afford me the opportunity it breakdown the barriers and is this is not scary this is our choice about you many times this is a feel good what it is that you give them is an opportunity you have to make it seem like it's there for them for the taking show them it is their and

they can do that. >> hi, i'm antonio the chief in san francisco. >> the majority of kids at that age in order to get them into food they need to see something simple and the evidence will show and easy to produce i want to make sure that people can do it with a bowl and spoon and burner and one pan. >> i like is the receipts that are simple and not feel like it's a burden to make foods the cohesives show something eased. >> i go for vera toilet so someone can't do it or its way out of their range we only use 6 ingredients i can

afford 6 ingredient what good is showing you them something they can't use but the sovereignties what are you going to do more me you're not successful. >> we made a vegetable stir-fry indicators he'd ginger and onion that is really affordable how to balance it was easy to make the food we present i loved it if i having had access to a kitchen i'd cook more. >> some of us have never had a kitchen not taught how to cookie wasn't taught how to cook. >> i have a great appreciation for programs that teach kids food and cooking it is one of the healthiest positive things

you can communicate to people that are very young. >> the more programs like the cooking project in general that can have a positive impact how our kids eat is really, really important i believe that everybody should venting to utilize the kitchen and meet other kids their age to identify they're not alone and their ways in which to pick yours up and move forward that. >> it is really important to me the opportunity exists and so i do everything in my power to keep it that. >> we'll have our new headquarters in the heart of the tenderloin at taylor and kushlg at the end of this summer 2014 we're really excited. >> a lot of the of the

conditions in san francisco they have in the rest of the country so our goal to 257bd or expand out of the san francisco in los angeles and then after that who know. >> we'd never want to tell people want to do or eat only provide the skills and the tools in case that's something people are 2rrd in doing. >> you can't buy a box of psyche you have to put them in the right vein and direction with the right kids with a right place address time those kids don't have this you have to instill they can do it they're good enough now to finding out figure out and find the future for

>> we love our parks, but we love... >> and the community who is really the core of it all, came together and said what we need is a place for our teenager to play, not just play grounds for the kids and soccer fields but we need a skate park that will keep the kids home in the neighborhood so they can play where they live. >> the children in the neighborhood and it will be a major boone. and we have generations, the youth generations that will be able to use this park in different places. >> the best park in san francisco right here. >> creating place where people can be active and lead active,

healthy life styles that are going to just stay with them for life. ♪back to the san francisco historic preservation commission meeting for wednesday march 18, 2015, >> i would like to remind members of the audience to silence any mobile devices that may sound off during these proceedings. >> i would like to take roll. commissioner hasz, hyland, wolfram, john's, commissioner matsuda and commissioner pearlman. we expect commissioner johnck to be

absent. >> public comment. public >> tomorrow we are conducting in the tenderloin, we are focusing on two national registered districts than the nationally located district for broader outreach to communities where neighborhoods are eligible. meeting will be held tomorrow from 6:30 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. many it will be a workshop format where property owners can come to ask question and we focused

a pretty large notification to property owners. >> depending on the workshop, we will keep you up to date. >> item 2. requesting of staff to report back on a matter. >> i have nothing to report. however i want to mention to you that the planning commission is very interested in the resolution on your agenda today and we will be sharing that