investors we're able to effectively convince we're doing a good job keep us where we are they kept us where we are and bought a lot of bond. >> ho do we react to the drought you can't - we have urban reservoirs for the go math that may take tough decisions. >> also the willingness to increase the rates to cover our debts is important to note. >> that wasn't that an important consideration from an outreach moving forward it is one - >> one of the answers they asked us what if this continues and our sales are lower than projected our response we're in discussion with management and

commission to take whatever measures to keep our finances up to cut costs or whatever the difficult decisions we'll make those decision at that time we're not there yet they're asking the questions as well as ever water agency in california. >> and two other points one that the contractor we have with our stwhoerl customers guarantees the cost we pay there is a time delay but basically, not subject to the amount of water we sell a that's almost exactly true true and we made that clear to the agencies. >> the other part we keep getting presentations talking about the water rate is a percentage of meanwhile income to see how tolerant the

community is with additional water rate increases if they've been on the safe do of that issue. >> so far. >> we're projected to so for. >> thank you. >> thank you very much so before we go to cc ii want to make one comment i realize a lot has been happening. >> saw in the paper about emile cruz and wanted to where's el e emile i won't be here at the next commission meeting i want let everyone know that e mills last day is april 14th we have a conflict with the city attorney and everyone is trying to remove

the conflict it is difficult for him to perform his job we came to the decision to release him from his kraekt contract wanted to talk about it before the 14th i'll not be here i don't know emile if you want to say something or wait until the 14th to tell the truth why you really want to leave (laughter). >> all right. harland put me on the spot i was not presented to say anything but off-the-cuff what i can say i'm very disappointed that this has transpired i have had a wonderful two years almost to the date here at the san francisco public utilities commission it is an outstanding

organization both professionally as well as socially it does the right thing and been an honor to be part of it i want to thank harlan for his leadership and friendship and stewardship one of the challenges when i started the job you know harlan said i used to be in that job they maybe coming to my door from time to time are you okay that that i said sure if you let them in i'll have an easier job in my office you'll be doing both the jobs to his credit he let me run with the organization and i do think that people responded i tried to bring to the organization my values in print my work style i'd like to think that was well

received i do know that in agencies we've done a lot in the last two years has been focused on the best community services so it is first time i've ever lived through something like this the last 4 weeks have been the most difficult to work through possibilities and harlan was there trying to work out ways to make that work unfortunately were not able a heartfelt to you commissioners and staff for making the last two years what they were (clapping.)

>> wow. >> i called amelia and went on and on and on and on how much we're going to miss him and a void he's going to leave in our family here great greatly missed i'm so sorry we couldn't account something. >> i'd like to echo that and obviously your presence here and leadership is very much appreciated and evaluated by staff as well as the commission a case of a good law with difficult outcomes we have to live in that world i'm going to meet with the consolidation this was a merger that created the situation no fault of anyone at the puc it happened we had to

respond with a grateful integrity but that consolidation made it did the the first name is involved can't be involved in construction management that makes it difficult we have to keep a close eye on it and if it hazard rip illegal effects we have to take care of that your unfortunately, the first caution it my guess not the last. >> well said i don't know if we're going to have the opportunity i want to thank you for the opportunity to thank you emile for all you're good work for the san francisco public utilities commission staff and the departments you oversee and for the city and county of san francisco your

talent your integrity, your wisdom and your friendship has meant a lot both personally and professionally i want to acknowledge that privately and pub this will not be the last time we'll work together i look forward to that day thank you for everything emile. >> with that cca. >> good afternoon, commissioners barbara hale general manager for energy i have 3 things to report on personnel and legislation reforms and sneak peak on the next activities first off happy to announce we're placing michael in our position of acting director of

the program yeah. michael is here (clapping) >> michael has been with the cac program back when i first came to the puc he went off and learned more working in new york for the port authority and has come back to us been part of our regulatory and legislative team and directing it and stepping into the role of the actressing director thank you to him for joining us in that effort for leading us in that effort at the staff level the next item on prevention active reform we have i told you we need to have changes in the way we contract so we can perform our work exceedingly for

our overhead procurement program we're moving forward towards agreeing asking the board of supervisors and mayor for authority specifically to standardize contracts much like others participant in the electrical market the western contractor the edison and master agreement that folks in the industry r0u7b9 use what they're making tracks we have the power pool limited there's amount contract we are looking for the standard forms of contract to be able to be used for our power purchasing for dollars amazes greater than $10 million and duration up to 20 years those are changes to our current

authority we current i'm sure you're aware of have to come to the commission and the board of supervisors when any k345ush8g go obligation involves $10 million or 10 years or more with those changes we'll be able to go out to the marketplace make the procurement decisions that likewise allows us to make xhmdz commitments that have a positive effect on the overhead costs because we can negotiate agreements with a fixed portion of portfolio going forward and have the opportunity with the commitment see new generations constructed to provide services so for the program those contracts are rounlt used in the marketplace we're looking forward to that being a key part of demonstrating the increase

renewable energy that the folks look for out of this program i'll pause there to see if there's any perspective questions on that effort. >> i know that last time we approved the timeline that item is going to be trying to track that we're trying to accelerate that program that as well as the stakeholder engagement line item around program design was supposed to be completed today. >> the proposal was actually on the timeline presented to the board on march 31st we've been working internally within the puc and the city attorney to really nail down our ask and we've made good progress we need logic active language creation time and to make sure we have

the proposal that has the right delegations delineated in that. >> so back up just be a little bit we're trying to identify what we would need to move at a commercial speed so as the charter says over contracts $10 million or 10 years have to go to the board except the construction and contract we can't have the board or the mayor waiver that the voter amendment so we've been working with the city attorney and there's been 3 instances that we were having the board to delegate the authority going to the board to us so that's what we're actually working with the city attorney but they want to make sure that there's some terms around it because when we

go to the budget analyst and harvey they'll have issues of delegating authority to the board the other thing the mayor appointment as far as cca the contracts that deal with building a new returnable he wants to make sure it is in the bay area and so that's another caveat we have to put into the legislation to allow us to move forward so we're trying to accommodate the mayor and trying to accommodate you know the city attorney and everyone else is on board but to make sure that it goes through harvey and address a lot of the issues we're trying to follow the schedule such as a and trying to accelerate i want to make sure we want to make sure that you know we get it so we execute it we can do it right

the other thing i know that inquiring the long term debt we need to be committed we've had situations we've answered into long term debt and it explicit pan out right so before we go out with the rfp we have to meet with the commissioners to feel xhovenlt what type of long term debt we're talking about and what range because we had a situation that you know we entered in a it didn't turnout well, i want to throw that out there there's a lot of moving parts but i feel comfortable we have a place where we want to go so to hopefully, we'll meet the date of the 31st we're trying to accelerate it but if not shortly after at least we feel that's what it will be. >> now the timeline says the

24th i mean, i'm concerned there's this is a tight timeline we approved the timeline at the last meeting there you are several other things that are coming up quick not to exceed the 24th you told me yesterday. >> yeah. i'll jump to the sneak peak. >> it sounds like we don't have a proposal on the perspective ask will look like; right? you've given us an outline but not the proposal will look like so i don't know if we need to readjust >> what we're going to do at every commission meeting an update if we find something that more difficult than anticipate we'll came back come back and tell you it is challenging we'll look at ways that's why you have

the ability to make up time i really want to do things right and have a program that we're not proud of so you know we're committed and moving the program as quickly as possible but want to make sure we have the ability to move forward so the schedule we're trying for work to meet it so we're doing everything we can to meet the schedule as well so that's what i can say about that. >> so that date we're looking at the 31st moved to the fourth. >> we're going to try to make the 31st but if not, we're going to try to get it hopefully, the next week so we're going to try to work with the mayor a accelerate the we can ask for

thirty days detail there's things in the schedule i want to marshall make sure that the nuances we're 6g9d out we have the ability to do that. >> i'd like to say that i think vice president is right on the schedule has to be met and there should be no espouse nor not having that met correct so we're going to have to fire up did you i think you have a comment as well. >> the only thing i'll add there's a portion of this you know, i appreciate the desire for speed and maintaining the schedule but the other part as items come to us to make sure we're doing the right job and if - so we're kind of working at different sides of the same

issue we want to do it quickly higher on your list than mine i want to make sure all the dot all the i's and cross the t's so that's a pressure i i know that harlan in the middle and that's going to be tough i heard from you where you know the schedule as a whole is the most important the individual line items may need flexibility and you need latitude to do that. >> i respectfully sdprau we had a timeline to be approved if there's a difference so i come to the meeting expecting a proposal on a certain date maybe some notification or you say you're not going to be in it for those reasons but of a sense all those parts are coming together

understanding 38 they might not be met but an exception of a timeline you guys produce and we approve. >> just to give you some prospective on why the program we give you schedules and try to meet the schedules but if something come up you have to readjust the schedule we don't build something because of schedule but try to build it the right way the major issue we want to launch the program at that date that's my goal is to launch it on this date if we have to take another week to make sure we have the right legislation i'll do that and try to recover on that date for me that's the most important thing i'm committed in delivering programs so you know we may miss a date you know on the bay

tunnel we delivered the bay tunnel for me this is something that you know i'm committed in doing i judge have to have the latitude to make the right decisions without getting on each of one of the items because we didn't know we were assuming what it was we didn't know that the mayor had issues we had to look and see when we asked the authority what did harvey rose say so we figured out not a bad budget analyst report so taking the extra time i think puts us in a better position so - >> further comments. >> the third item i was going to present if i may the sneak peak on what is up in the next couple weeks we're reaching out to stakeholder and accident citizens advisory committee for

feedback on the proposed principally program design we'll, bringing that to you once we receive the feedback on april 14th we've advanced on the schedule the late fairness board interaction we'll be meeting with them on april 17th to have them provide us with - to present to them excuse me. the program design and not to exposed the rates for the program and hope they'll be comfortable acting either then or shortly thereafter we were successful in getting that calendar it was the stakeholders outreach the week of april 6th a productive to the commission of the program design april 14th and not to exceed rates on the 17th so that's just some of the

activities we'll be peru have the timeline a lot of other things happening but those restraining order the things we're highlighting for your thank you very much. >> before you leave the podium any other questions or comments i have a question and this just sort of going back in history for me i'm going to question the value of buying power contracts 10 years and out which if i understood you correctly is what you're saying you're looking for 10 year $10 million contract that is something that i will reserve for comments later and i'll be happy to talk about it. >> just if we are trying to

establish a set price for a longer period of time if you enter into a purchase power agreement if you know how much the power costs for a long term you minimize your risk because you're in the to the market or in the realm of power prices so i think that is what you want to do but not put too much of the power in long-term because if the price comes it is too expensive you have to manage the risk of long-term and short-term power purchase agreements and i quite agree want to add that 10 years a long time i've said when i wanted to say. >> thank you. >> i just on the local 261 so it is going to go to the fair rates board on the 17.

>> yes. >> our next commission meeting where harlan won't be here on the 18th of april. >> that's when we are presenting the program design and and a sense of what the rates look like goes to the fairness board. >> correct. >> and by then the legislation will be introduced at the board okay. so that should get us on the elements of the timeline and one other pious on the telling meeting what the stakeholder to discuss the precipitates. >> that's the week of april 6th we'll be presenting before we present program design and not to exceed rates here and at rate fairness we're proposing to talk with the stakeholders so that will be a step ahead of presenting to you. >> great. >> thanks. >> and but to our point that's

not the only time we'll be talking about this. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> does that conclude our - >> yes. >> report now i'm going to ask for. mr. brooks hello >> good afternoon, commissioners i was going to tall one water a little bit i need to forego that and talk about community choices i'll say by the way the stakeholder process that was mentioned didn't include the community advocates only the stakeholders that the mayor come up we need to get the stakeholder meeting to run the program to initiate to work with staff and contractors to make sure the program coming out properly and is robust on timeline issues i have to say i'm not compelled

by the general manager kelly said about the perspective that his i've worked on prevention through city hall it can be amended as it moves to the committee and city hall process even the board of supervisors itself there's no reason that legislation can't get off the ground on schedule as it is on the timeline and concerns raised latter while amended the legislation to fit those concerns claiming should not be an option this is not community crisis is not a community project that has no competition it has competition from pg&e and there are political issues around community choice being b being we need to get the program approved before the election this november so we can't be slipping on the timelines and i would add with

the not to exceed rate that we need to make sure at the next meeting on april 14th that you folks as a commission are saying to staff that okay. today we're going to tell you to send those not to exceed rates that match pg&e brown pourn a rates to the ratepayer i forgot the name of the board. >> the fairness board so there's no delay on that when we're seeing staff asking for details anything that can be accelerated needs to be accelerated that means if we accelerate taking not to exceed rates to the fairness board we needed freed need to do that more quickly if we don't get the rates pushed in the papers before pg&e roles out it's

program and talks about it presumably great rate to market the product we'll be behind the eight ball marketing to the public it is really important for us to move the timeline forward and not let timeline sliej happen because of the timeline this program fads. >> thanks. >> thank you good afternoon. >> good afternoon. i'm the conservation program for about the charter of the sierra club thank you for the general manager hail for presenting this and moving up the timeline not to exceed the fairness board i didn't hear a plan in the sneak peak what that's coming back to the commission on april 28th that would be great

also wanted to give you a heads-up i've seen something about a protest being planned at city hall on april 14th i'd like to have the meeting where we look at the practice writing program design that may i think the plan to shut down the building from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. i want to have that meeting and have this discussion wanted to give you a heads-up for plans for that thanks. >> what's the protest. >> what's the protest. >> i got invited to an event on facebook to shut down city hall from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. i can send you more information but that could cause problems for starting the meeting on time but still have