reat also wanted to give you a heads-up i've seen something about a protest being planned at city hall on april 14th i'd like to have the meeting where we look at the practice writing program design that may i think the plan to shut down the building from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. i want to have that meeting and have this discussion wanted to give you a heads-up for plans for that thanks. >> what's the protest. >> what's the protest. >> i got invited to an event on facebook to shut down city hall from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. i can send you more information but that could cause problems for starting the meeting on time but still have the meeting on

april 14th. >> jason chief financial officer for lass could first of all, congratulations to the gentleman for the interim position officially i thought he was in the position i bugged him for weeks i want to get to the timelines first of all thank you to the puc for moving up the meeting in the middle of april that's a good move and smart the one piece i'm nerves but that was the rid critical timeline section the rates board was moving one thing up potential details in the critical line item of the legislative that his as plain clothes officers said it is alleged going through the process one of the things there

is a progress that the board of not perfect on die one we don't want to rush but there are ways to getting the process started getting the big picture items out what you're looking like if it's changes here and there you can do that with the general big picture getting started as quickly as possible i want to push not only your staff but the city attorney's office to make sure we get something that will be introduced at the techniques board meeting it is critical and needed and finally on the meeting with the stakeholder groups that was something that the mayor's office see office requested i've submitted names that includes accident advocates to the puc staff and it should be included not one small sector of groups my understanding correct me if i am wrong it is meant for anyone who is

interested should be at the meeting and putting the invitations will be sent out i'll be working with the staff to make sure that people are there it is critical to have 311 in the room and where things should be done in the future that's where we are at thank you. >> thank you. >> comment. >> yeah. i just in thinking about this stakeholder engagement pious it is so critical i don't know where it is ultimately coming in the land or extraordinarily affairs we're mandatory to do a certain amount of the nature of the program with the outreach the sooner the better we'll engage the community members and all variety of people to understand the nature of that program and what's coming down the pike so i

don't see the communication stream plan in this timeline it would be great to get updates regularly on the strategies to engage stakeholders who the people are i don't understand if it's the mayors appointed group or the advocates or who that body see i think you know the quicker we can make the broad circle of engaged community members the better. >> i totally agree we need to engage the folks and have regular updates so i do agree that the legislation is on the critical path so maybe what we do is every two weeks we'll update you on the schedule to save time we've give you an

update on the schedule by the way, the launch date you don't want to e slip and we'll save time one last point i wanted to make when we talk about you know lack of light green the initial offers that everyone has to opt out on we're talking about the green aversion people have to opt in per diem what they talk about raising the pummeling their competing on the greener one; right? so that's why for me it's important for us to talk about the greener ones should look like that helps determine the price on that and so for me that's what is important doss because we know what the price is the basic one at the pg&e

price now it is and our product is going to be green eerie wanted to point out. >> on that note do you think we'll able to approve not to exceed both versions on the timeline and we're going to definitely do that i just wanted to make sure that like you said we need to get a robust you know communications and outreach so that everyone can comment on it. >> question mr. kelly how do we know what the light green rate is going to be for pg&e we're making an assumption we don't know for sure. >> right now pg&e doesn't have a light green they're having a brown rate which is 25 percent

returnable and we're looking at 3233 like marin we can offer that at the same price pg&e is offering their 25 percent so our product will be greener the same price and the beauty is those people will automatically be in our program we talk about their martha they're marketing the greener product and having people opt into that program we'll have those folks in your program so for me we have an advantage i'd like to move both the products once you have an opportunity to communicate with the rate fairs or the customers we would like to give them opportunity to convince them to sign into the greener product at the same time their automatically coming out our

program that's what i want to do is give them a choice you can going come into our promissory note program or opt into a greener program with more build outs so we need to define that that is how i'd like to you know market it because and i think waiting once they're in a program it is hard for them to move because we've seen that many merry run it is less than 10 percent people opt into a greener plan i'd like to really you know try to go in the double digits to do more build outs with one hundred percent renewable. >> i agree except for the fact i can't in my mind that we know what the new program for pg&e

the light green rate will be we don't really. >> they didn't have a light green. >> that's the dark green their coming out with it is equivalent. >> it goes up in increments. >> my understanding okay they're going to offer one hundred percent renewable and we're calculating because we kind of know how the claugsdz that's one hundred percent but you can say i'd like to have one hundred percent rushld for 50 percent of my usage so; is that correct. >> is that how it goes. >> it's different how green is you want your total bill to be is one hundred percent of renewable what's the portion of your usage you know do you want it 50 percent of your usage you want to use green we really need

to figure out you know how they're marketing so we can put our greener in a executive position. >> so is their lowest. >> i don't know what narrowing lowest usage. >> the lowest is because service the standard rp s target of 25 percent today and then the green terrace jim kelly was describing would give the consumers the ability to start at 50 percent and go up to one hundred percent. >> and we don't know if the dark greener option is going to how that's going to price out at the green fair; right? and question don't but we were active in the gp c where pg&e requested

approval and pummeling provided a lessor rates their rates are based on costs we have a prugd idea where to start as time marched on they've got new projects with new costs we have a general idea and those prices were pushed over the next several months we'll have a clear idea what they're to be charging they'll be foiling their letter in early may. >> we don't know if we are going to be able to beat those prices. >> yeah. >> and set a limit not to exceed. >> exactly. >> we can set a not to exceed rate it will be adjusted coming in below that and talk about what we're doing with the

revenues from that program; right? to give us flexibility and the other thing when you looked at your schedule we don't know the rates until we actually go out with the rfps; right? we're going in the market and kind of see what the numbers but until we go out with the rfp and determine the proposals we get we can't even though you know the price. >> yeah. if i can add it is a cost restraint we're going to the mantling and find out if we'll receive bids from the contractors bidders. >> point of clarification not to exceed rate we're talking about include the dark green? >> we're proposing it would.

>> two rates. >> the logic we can move quickly on the not to exceed rate was that basically not to exceed pg&e rates i just don't know if we know enough to include the not to exceed rates for the dark green and first of all, we feel that with again, if we offer our light green it matches pg&e's basic service ours will be greener those people will automatically be enrolled in our program so we feel the impact for the rate payers by the consumers would be negotiable. >> so not to exceed for that service is pretty clear that's why they should move quickly. >> that's correct, however it would be novice to have both

options on the table as you go out with the required outreach you can then offer this other greener priority at the same time so people can opt in so we can do it all at one time that's why we're trying to push to find out what pg&e's number is to set the not to exceed price bans our calculations so we can probably do that you know in the time we're talking about but the details is you know working and getting the prices so we're necessarily know what's in that number. >> so how can we do that without going out with an rfp. >> the theme we've talked about not to exceed price until we actually went on the market like for example, we may want to explain with when we had shell; right? you want to -

>> with shelf we were dealing with indicative prices even under the shell there of the uncertainty to the final rates of pricing we'll have to strict a quick integral to sfichl up the rates the intent of during that period of time not to exceed rate. >> so we've always had a not to exceed rate and when we went to shell they would give us pricing if it was lower than the not to exceed we could move forward but if it went over this we'll tell shelf to go back that's the purpose of the not to exceed rate. >> so what is purpose of it now. >> it is the same thing we have to go on the market to do the rfps to get what the rate would be it's the same things we don't

have shell to do it we have 80 do it ourselves. >> okay. >> sorry about that. >> (laughter). no problem at all it is great to go last everything has been said i'm jed i'm the the board of 350 san francisco i would like to talk about the great things said before i think that it is great we're going to the rate fairness board earlier and hope those could be on the april 28th meeting we're expecting the letter from penguin on may 10th according to our timeline so i think the medium landscaper is for the most part in his mind great to match pg&e's power rate

with the program as quickly as possible i hope that state will not be the same prices as pg&e that's innovate sexy it is sexier to say cheaper than pg&e but so cheaper and cleaner is what i want to say to folks they both start with c. (laughter) the other thing i agree we have an advantage by having everyone in the program as the municipality but the reason it was built that way is because on the one side of the scale is a very well combefrnd and wealthy entry with a lot of ties to the regularity down the street the moment the amount of money that will be levy i didn't do to try to take people away from us is inclaubl they can call people on the phone and say to opt out

just call that number push two they can really, really go for it we shouldn't be blind about the fact we're going to have all those folks and you know they're going to definitely stick with light green we need to do everything we can the sexiest plan i hate to say that at a public meeting and last point on the timeline from the meeting in which you approved that it was stated you might be able to move the process up a month earlier so absorb a month i hope those things can be done thank you very much existed to be here >> i hope you haven't put us on

the "x" rated commission. >> do i have any other comments from the public seeing none the next item, please. >> item 9 a sewer system program quarterly update. >> good afternoon, commissioners commissioner president caen karen king from the wastewater project can you bring up the slides i'm here to give the quarterly update we'll talk about program wide and some of the projects in project design and follow-up with the construction update and our stakeholder update status at this point everything is in planning and design and moving forward well consistency we have 62 projects

that are moving as you can see the list in planning and preplanning we're van that every month right now 5 projects in construction the expenditures from the $2.7 million it is .1, 2, 3 billion dollars that's been extended to 44 that the 6 as we get into construction with more and more projects that will pick up greatly. >> commissioner moran i'll get into our question so on a program wise basis we're working on the south west plant in 2018 we're going to voluntary 8 different construction projects on the 040 acre site it is very impactful we're currently analyzing the electrical demand for the future our future projects and actually also talking to pg&e as well as

our power enterprise about the power we have initiate a site management committee and that's the group that alongside all the staging areas and what is a shut down going to occur that includes the maintenance and engineering as well as the program staff. we're identifying the adjacent property to get arrangements for the parcels during the construction for people to have their trailers that impact minimally the neighborhood and for oceanside the purpose of up front planning to make sure they go as well as possible we plan carefully so our construction can go well, we begin to look at the small business jobs analysis looked like purpose to determine what jobs and what trades will be needed

in the future we held a violationing working group out of my comfort zone but a lot of planners and architects came together to look out out to integrate the southeast plan and we'll bring this to you and talking with the working group on how the plans came forward >> the preconstruction those jars are a good example i'm sure you're aware of we're working on the heads work that's where they convert into the plant our alternative analysis we're in the conceptual phrase and we'll begin our environmental review we hoped for rain we're looking at two pilot studies side by side for the bay area

improvement projects that are our tunnel we're looking at the connection between the great infrastructure and continuing on the novels and taking a recommendation to the executive management to get started and the bio sold it moving atm crews were here and walked through did analysis outcome that is moving along on schedule their many conceptual engineering and have begun the project descriptions to kickoff our ceqa pubically. >> pardon me. >> before you leave this slide so conceptual engineering will be completed by september. >> so that middle bullet is the tunnel that's itself bay area system it is a tunnel a comprehensive water shed evaluation of the hillside so

many things have changed such a hard gray area a lot of times we quoted the approximate but the reason we started f that project was seismic to replace a channel that starts the channel station to 280 looking at the end of admission creek and takes side loads through the plant so discount flows the presidio and marina 80 percent of the flow to the southeast that's what trails them in and that asset is sitting there vulnerable. >> right you said that was going to go to senior martin luthern king, jr. and conceptual engineering i'm hoping there is steps in between i want to understand what our option are you know your analyzing them.

>> just to clarify what the commission approved was feats one phase one was a preconstruction we'll have to come to the commission because this is above the $2.7 million to approve so i think what we're trying to do is get our arms around we we feel is the best alternative to present to the commission and welcome to invite any of the commissioners that want to participate to get a better understanding because we will make a presentation to the commission more of a high-level so just wanted to clarify the construction of this alternative or whatever we select has not been funded. >> okay. i know this is a major ticket prissy really want to understand pretty well we'll do it off-line the option and,

of course, i know the greenest option understanding the seismic concerns and it is immediate needs that needs to be addressed i'm concerned. >> thank you, commissioner i know we did a briefing on the water shed as well as the tunnel to look at the green and i think that we'll be shortly at a time to sit down and if i may sit down and go through the information. >> great thanks. >> back to the slides. >> preconstruction currently, we have 7 green projects in planning and design and we're a week away from completing the first, the wiggle face one applied for loan money for the green infrastructure project which is exciting and have this on the last agenda it is for the

funding the state will be here on thursday and have a tour and weigh talk with them our water shed is continuing we did a 2k4ri7b9 effort and coming up came up with the report we've competing the west side and the sides of the city will be into a prioritized plan that involves the executive gray assets and things like the extra improvement project and basement to the channel town hall construction wise we have one under construction and 8 digestsers operating we have started work at the staugs and i mentioned the wiggle we have more and more projects going out to bid and

going into the fold on the stakeholder side we had a big month we talked about the water shed and large-scale community event to talk about sf i p and all the projects we're working on and had all the project manager it was a banner year in terms of getting people out to the ssi p we have over 15 and 1.8 million people looking at the website we have a lot of increase in the tours that's people slowing down and smelling and connecting waterways to all the work we do and we're never one to be stuck in a box we have had our students our ssi p interims develop a music video a route about wastewater the

worldwide launch will be tomorrow at 430 we're expecting it to be a full house with live talent there as well and i'm hoping you guys can make it i think we invited most of you. >> i skipped our answer 80 so i want to get back to the commissioner moran about the program risks we've gone through the risk assessment and identified the mitigation strategies and risk owners and do a workshop for instance, one major go risk a lot of work of works being planned and a lot of capital plans we're looking at water capital and the wastewater capital and transportation capital we're concerned to get big bids and contractors

available the concern you addressed about they're being enough engineering firms and engineering talent there's other risks to keep the plants operational but that strategy could be in a correspond dense. >> we could do that or make another presentation to talk about how to deal with that this is a good experience how to identify the risks and what we do to mitigate the risks and find values for risks to determine the severity of the risks. >> on a product basis we'll do the risk assessment when we get dot engineering and have an idea what the project alternative is. >> part of my interests first of all, everything is an important experience its been helpful to me and