so those are all the committees and activity level one wore to select 6 committees from this level would someone like to come up and select that for us. >> one at a time. >> would you like to read it for us. >> mayor ed lee for san francisco committee committee for better wages yes on j no on b 2014

sponsored by san francisco alliance for jobs for sustainable growth no on the waterfront yes on prop b jane kim for supervisor 2014, yes on e choose health san francisco. >> how many is that. >> 6 i think hold on a a second i think we have 6. >> great, thank you would you like to read the names of the next audit pool.

>> a whole new set of slips. >> okay. so this is the second level of activities okay. >> okay coalition to protect golden gate park hydra mendosa for school board 2014 sam walter for school board 2014 kaing for supervisor 2014 committee to elect steven come back for school board 2014

home share bottle for district 2 supervisor 2014 committee to elect emily murase for school board 2014 committee for jobs government reform fund san francisco labor council labor and neighbor independent expenditure political pack national union of health care workers for quality patient care and union democracy. >> we need to select two committees from this level. >> okay. so -

>> would you like to read it. >> okay. >> hydra mendosa for school board 2014. >> one more. >> ca bottle supervisor 2014. >> thank you. >> and we have one more audit policy of campaign committees would you be kind to read those? >> this is the third and last policy okay no one else san franciscans against gridlock yes on j and g chinese progressive association committee to pass laura's law 2014 miracle murphy for school board

2014 lee sue four board of education committee to elect the committee college board 2014 reelect public defender jeff 2014 ed donald son supervisor 2014 john railways do for community college board 2014 golden state restaurant association pack san francisco for a worth sponsored by the san francisco chamber of commerce transport workers local 258 percent keep fund and sf moderates

san francisco young democrat accuracy fdr democratic club of san francisco political action committee residential buildings association of san francisco pack san francisco personality political action committee, district 11 democratic club i have no more slips. >> will you select two from this batch. >> tag team back and forth. >> okay. >> i'm bob i was commissioner in the 6 of 2000 district 11 democratic club san francisco young democrat

accuracy thank you. >> so that's it for the campaign committees now move on to the lobbyists. >> similarly the lobbyists are divided two 3 levels of activities we've select committees from those 3 levels two from the highest level and one each from the next level again, we need volunteers. >> san francisco chamber of commerce reuben, junius & rose llp appoint associates

glad advisors peterson hayward and associates, sf aa b m w l l and partners inc. and ss associates. >> okay. so we need a volunteer to select two from this group.

>> la point and associates, san francisco chamber of commerce. >> thank you will you read the next level. >> so for this pacific gas and electric company committee on jobs building owners and management association of san francisco, berg davis public affairs, hanson 3wrig9 llp round floor public affairs louses 92 vin

coalition for better housing public advocacy partners. >> okay. please select one from this group. >> hanson brigitte llp okay. so the last level. >> okay michael yeah. key andrew greg, airbnb barbary

coast consulting karen flood bay bio trust company of the west, edward day t z k broadway, llc fisher man's property llp brooding cast capital, llc and the strategy communications

fritz could systems inc. phillip lessor r l braun and matt he will. >> willie brown. >> james ross long law valero consulting inc. john newman.

>> thank you select one. >> just one. >> okay. >> airbnb. >> great thanks that complements our selection process. >> thank you, ms. shay and to the public for your assistance two former commissioners can't get better than that the next item on the agenda is discussion and possible action for the project calendar for various staff projects you want to talk about that one. >> yes. sxhour and commissioners and thank you deputy director at the last meeting the commission approved

four proposals for staff to pursue and investigate in terms of augmenting the city campaign finance ordinance and given sort of you know the choices and sort of the amount of work involved the commission directed united states to prepare a project calendar that estimated sort of how much time and the type of work into each particular project and then to bring that forward to the commission for comment, approval and certainly suggestions and ultimately direction as your thoughts to that calendar along the way also the commission did excuse to start mostly on one particular proposal that was the proposal regarding mechanic ballet measure and the general purpose

committees and applying limits and prohibitions we did the language we reached out to a few folks to get feedback and identified one issue you'll talk about a little bit later but ultimately getting started so in developing this calendar though one thing i thought would be helpful would be there are through a variety of ways leave you outstanding issues out there i thought we thought that would be good for the commission to see all the issues and then make a decision based on that full information receive input if the public with respect to everybody is on the on the same page as to who is out there approximately, how long things will take and when the work we're trying to get it done by what we did was

added the additional issues we're aware of and put that into the memo and so we know number one tried to lay out what the additional issues are and given e give an estimate how long each one my take who talked with the city attorney's office and particularly with respect to building a record as to the kind of controlled committee issues and we tried to figure out well, what is the most important and how would we prioritize those a lot of this was us trying to take the cow from the commission but also kind of looking at what we saw the serious issues it is a mix not perfected you folks will see that this is our best guess it is running through the

issues and returning through how long that will take and proposed prioritization on page 7 our sense of based on the commissions disconnection and our understanding and we have this abstraction or technician limitations language at the end is this calendar which gives a sense of where everything in gray staff will be working on the issue and anytime it talks about the intent the commission decide on something or hear something at this point so just unthrough briefly it is sort of in the memo but we essentially had the 4 issues that were voted on the mechanic and prohibition triggered by the

prop j issues and getting those foiled with the ethics commission we've identified some the procedural issues and the two that we identified were sort of enforcement policies and regulations addressing some of the streamline provisions maybe forms inspections for any reason violations that sort of thing and the second thing under the procedural it the forfeiture and last day policies that goes book to the august 2008 staff memorandum that outlines the procedures and commissioner keane asked for a review and

perhaps improvement on that memo so we want to do that then we have two outstanding issues from the civil grand jury within a renovelist of the expenditure lobbyists reporting requirement and the response to the civil grand jury the commission said they would you would looked at it the issue as a general matter to decide if you want to move forward that's still outstanding and there was always recommendation with respect to additional gifts of travel those restraining order two issues there and then the final set of issues has to do with ongoing reporting issues we them we have to deal with one to move to all electronic filing for the form seven hundred

fillers this is beyond the department heads to foil electronically and go to all city fillers and employees and finally the permit consulted will be foiling their report on trillion april 15th we had a lot of questions holding off the idea of doing the rates until we see how the first quarter goes that is ultimately something we want to do ultimately it was the staffs intent after the consideration in january we'll move to the two outstanding civil grand jury issues and then go to enforcement and forfeiture issues at this point but from that conversation we got into expanding the scope what we do at sea crow so as you can see

then i'll wrap up we on page 7 identified what we see as the higher priority issues which are the mechanic control limits bans our last conversation the enforcement rates and policies this form seven hundred electronic issue and the bundling and reporting and perhaps additional reporting for gifts of traffic jam and the rest awhile certainly important we'll consider of lower priority and so as a result we created our chart thank you at the end that essentially says we refer to the seven hundred form committee issues basically through september number one with the mechanic controlled community that involve you know a lot of work in terms of building the appropriate record and go to the bundling reporting

and the enforcement regulation and policy discussion so that's the sum and i'll be happy to answer any questions or take any comments. >> questions. >> just a comment i think you've done a great job in the discussion you've done. >> i guess just for information purposes on our memo on page 3 you sort of list bullet power points to get to the candidate controlled committee regulation

and that looks like a very extensive amount of work and can you give me some idea how you would implement it with staff how many staff people are going to have to be involved and what kind of hours do you think will be spent. >> i think you're looking at them in addition to that obviously working with the city attorney's office we would probably work were and italy's directors steven massachusettscy r i didn't some of it will be you know reviewing the contributions to the straurs committees i mean, i think your first - our first step we've started to do it make sure we have a full handle on the law we've seen the literature there are some law review articles you know reaching out to some of

the former elected officials that control the ballet measure committees and getting the input we ask them to talk to the extent we get someone an stewart to come we're we're going to want that to set of up that first big meeting so the commission can consider all the testimony whether oral or written so i oils i'm describing the process. >> the question for example the legal research that the city attorney's office presumably was doing to get pro bono help to help the city that applies to a number of those would it not not only to the controlled committees but to a number of the other ones and how about the public sort of

the public hearing would it make sense to combine them so that your macro the record not only for say the candidates controlled committees but other regulations your got on the priority list. >> well. >> is doable do you think. >> with respect to the report issues i think we want feedback in terms of what is most valuable to the public how guidance works with the regulation and that sort of thing with this really and also with the prop j we're talking about you know some important constitutional issues i'll be worried about sort of giving them a short trip if everything

is combined together. >> any other questions or comments from the commissioners? i echo commissioner keane's statement it is well done and helpful and seeing where we need to go one suggestion that i have is i know we don't have a formal committee on this commission but to the extent commissioners want to participate hopefully that will be welcomed by the staff i for example have those enforcement regulations have been near and dear to my heart maybe other commissioners you can reach out to them >> public comment?

>> hello, i'm larry bush this time i'm speaking on behalf of friends of ethics we sent a letter outlining the number of concerns looking over this i want to add a post script it that on the calendar that would be helpful to the commission if in addition to the timeline of activities for the staff and commission you also included in here the timeline for political activities that is gong in the city at the same time sometimes i'll be seeing campaign financial reports that helps if you include that in june and september and november there's an election it is an important part of looking at our calendar secondly on the issue of travel and more disclosure i think that the civil grand jury y request wore more payments and not just

attractively it's a way in which people will have an ability to respond to city hall interests by writing a check to someone that still wants to see funded in some cases offices. >> and then i think that on terms of the control committee the first step i don't see listed to define how do you know the committee is a controlled committee we don't have a good check list the same in the 2008 minutes you have the same consultant is it the same mailing list are you sharing door lists back and forth that's important for the political process to be known not just a short thing

a lot of the other issues you're looking at like local research it is very constructive do so what other ethics commissions are responsible for the enforcement we've done that through the friends of ethics and been on civil grand jury will be helping happy to provide you with the results of that and allocates some of the reports you'll be looking at on your sites for example which are the controlled committees are obviously incomplete you have to go back to 2007 when the bics commission looked at what was going on that's with the ugly 2008 prior to that if you listed as a controlled committee as put on the bottles by the mayor or by supervisors for the campaign had the same campaign manager not showing you as a full

committee awhile you're asking for a collective competition to talk about where why they have a controlled committee ask another commissioners why they think that would a control committee i have names >> commissioners ray heart in san francisco open government the comment there seems like a belief among the commissioners the only thing you're concerned about is campaign finance everything else is recommended to campaign finance and nothing else i'd like to look at a couple of the things liquor enforcement of regulations and policies how about the sunset ordinance see the screen