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pg&e. we will continue to have success. the programs the department runs contribute 40 percent of the energy efficiency savings in in the pg&e portfolio in san francisco and again that's with us prioritizing the small business and the multifamily business owners and this portfolio focuses on large commercial buildings and low hanging fruit so contribute 40 percent of of the savings in pg&e territory here and have done this with experienced professionals this soup represents our credentials again this team and expertise is invaluable. a lot of my team is here today. they are passionate and honest and effective and customers know we're un motivated by profit and we have bilingual staff to engage the multicultural communities and so the
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department is currently returning running 2 programs san francisco energy watch and the the bayren program. they share a common goal but the approach is different. the san francisco energy watch program has been mostly a lighting program we've run this program since 2006 and worked with all market segments from small business up to large commercial building owners. the bayren program has a more commercial offering this program uses the total estimated energy savings to give the customers incentives. this is one of our favorite plots showing what we've done since 2006 you can see our projects throughout the commercial corridors to every
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corn er of the city our programs help constituents save energy since 2001 we have installed over 15 thousand projects paid out over 40 million in incentives. reduced 92 ,000 tons of carbon emissions equivalent to 15 thousand vehicles from the road and help san franciscans save energy they are receiving 43 $43 million every year from these projects and they pay out on utility bill savings every year with quality equipment approved that will last longer than conventional equipment and finally our programs help san francisco residents live better and 81, 9th street -- a little
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drama there. this is a multiphase project. last year if we did the largest project to date through bayren a boiler replacement project. the owner's two other buildings shared similar success. we so want to do more. unfortunately this is an unusual case in its comprehensiveness. we had a difficult time going deeper with multiple measures. i've worked on these programs for for 8 years now and it's frustrating not to be able to offer cost effective projects to all of our customers and
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this is because of the significant regulatory barriers . so all of these programs are funding through the rate payers and it's the duty of the california utilities commission to ensure these funds are being spent wisely. we're subjected to pg&e's authority and that of the cpuc's energy division. the result is more latitude in program design so bayren gives us a proof of concept. in just 18 months it's touched 95 hundred residential units and introduces new measures to get deeper energy savings built on actual energy saves and accessible because it works
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directly with the puc instead of through pg&e and effectively expanded on the energy watch model but want to do more for all of our customers. we think that cca gives us that opportunity our long-term vision is to continue to improve on our energy efficiency offerings and we know we can not do this right away and our current programs again will continue to run once it's implemented. what might the next generation program look like? we know we want to account for and incentivize the savings. going beyond lighting in the simplest measures. real greenhouse emission savings and crucial to achieving san
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francisco's and the state aggressive environmental goals. it will be successful if it's accessible and affordable and we have a lot of experience with pg&e financing a a minimum 5-year pay back. many avoid they said projects completely because it's so time time consuming. we fear the rates will be too high for our small business customers. with these elements in place here's an example of what we might do with san francisco's cca this is a multiuse building in chinatown we could work closely with all of the rate payers here we can we can start with the ground floor commercial spaces and do our lighting programs and also work with the
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restaurant in the downstairs space expand upon or current pilot project to more accurately account for and pay for expensive equipment like this and do combustion safety testing and with an ability to use actual energy savings we could finally address the boiling the boilers in the basement they are too expensive to remove and replace. finally once the load is which widdled down as much as we can we'll create a micro grid for residential and commercial customers on site and the result for the program is more comprehensive projects and providing long-term savings and
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more efficient with our project management time and marketing dollars and avoid stranding the most expensive measures after the easy low hanging fruit is done. we know that energy cost savings have a positive cost savings and we know that many businesses that we work with are at risk if their energy bills continue to rise and job creation with the manufacturing sale and installation of these energy efficiency projects so we have the vision we need to determine a timeline we know we have a powerful future. cca will help san san francisco bridge our work and we'll continue to lead not only with our innovative ideas but with our creative methods of implementation. thank you very
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much. [applause]. >> so i just thank you kathleen that was outstanding i want to emphasize one of the points brought up by all of the speakers and that's one of timing when is this brave new world of energy efficiency going to happen? as mr. fried talked about, there's a stepwise to this. you don't come out the door with cca at the moment of launch with a big pile of money to spend or even with permission from the california public utilities commission to use rate payer funds for energy efficiency so we'll be working in very close harmony as mr. fried asked of us with the san francisco puc to make sure that when we launch, we're starting down
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that road to that new future even if we don't realize it in that moment in time so at at the point of launch we'll still work on bayren and have energy launch and work with customers and at the same time work with our own puc to figure out how that future unfolds so to to me it's an exciting moment in time for for a partnership with our two departments to get the best out of each department. >> all right. yes. executive officer fried? >> thank you. jason fried i want to thank you for those comments and i want to add one thing and this is my personal belief not everyone shares with me but i believe we need to be paying attention now to the opportunities and i know there's grants coming up now and they then and you apply for the grant and it takes time so my hope is if we can show
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we're serious unfortunately we've been down this road two times before and haven't launched but perhaps some of these grants will let us step in early and that they will give us that opportunity to say hold some money aside for us and i want to think outside the box -- let's make sure we're looking for those grants now applying for them now and i want to add one other thing i know commissioner stephenson i want to give credit to the department of the environment very early on i believe they call it environment now they actually did a tremendous amount of outreach for the cleanpowersf program in the early days and i heard about this and so can you incorporate this and they covered i want to say over 75 percent of the
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sunset and talked to a whole lot of people in that area about the program so the department has been involved for quite sometime to get the message out there and i want to encourage the good partnership that occurred then and still continuing now but it has occurred we're doing that and that was you know good you know getting people the job skills and a lot of people in that program back in the day a high percentage of them got jobs and i'm willing to bet they still have jobs because they were given that opportunity then. >> yeah, that's the world famous sf environment outreach and the team commissioner king was talking about yeah very excited about that. mr. fried, i seem to remember from my bouts of ininsomnia, as a part
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of the total job creation that the local number i want to say around 45 hundred? >> it was in the mid4 thousand range it was about half of the jobs that sounds about right. remember when we're talking about local it's the local regional map that we're looking at not necessarily just san francisco you are looking at like the airport potentially and some of the other properties the the city has outside and definitely qualify they would fall under the local hire ordinance at that point and san franciscans would get a certain percentage of those jobs and you know those numbers better than i i do commissioner . >> colleagues, questions? commissioner stephenson? >> i guess i have one last
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question i know in the sonoma presentation the two options the evergreen option was more expensive but the opt-out option was going to be cheaper than what they were paying through pg&e pg&e is that the expectation with our program? >> barbara hale that's our hope we will know after we go out to bid and see what the market is offering us if we can achieve that but that's absolutely where we want to be you know leading with affordability is the objective for that part of the program that competes with pg&e's default service. >> what is the mix of different energy sources that we're looking at com procter at at com to misnomer.
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to sonoma. >> they can go in sonoma because they have the geysers and we don't have that in san francisco i think the light green yes and the deep green -- there might have to be some outside because we don't have enough at a reasonable rate to be able to produce it here in san francisco that part might be slightly different if i'm not mistaken. >> so as we bring our program design to our commission, part of what we're talking about here is what's local embedded in what we're talking about sonoma is in a different position than us in terms of locally within the county's foot print so how we define local and whether it's the regional picture or san francisco specific you know, that will be part of our program design that we're
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bringing to to our commission on on april 14th thanks. >> colleagues, more questions, thoughts? we've got got public comment here and i've got one card -- if it's the will of the commission, i would love for us and in particular would like to hear from commissioner king about this but to send a communication or letter to the puc commission and the department to send a clear signal that we're supportive of moving forward and that we are finding a lot of the things that we kind of want to see before or now before us around affordability green component, the local jobs and then kind of offer our support particularly around obviously as commissioner king said around community outreach to collaborate with assistant
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general manager hale and her team and general manager kelly and the outreach and also the behind the meter components to collaborate around energy efficiency and renewables would be something we'd love to offer from the commission and if that's the case from the department as well but it seems to be a summary of what's been stated from the department's perspective that we're ready to go maybe you want to think about it or see what we hear from the public first? okay. so first speaker actually i do have a card from jedd, h oltsman. >> thank you. i'm on the board of 350 350 bay area live in the city. so i just want to use my time to like we've been
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in the weeds on this since the last time i saw you and to especially speaking to commissioner king like i'm right there with you and i feel really good about where we are now and i want to outline the differences last time we were talking about 100 percent green for everybody and that's going to be like on average 6 bucks more a month now talking about a two-tier system like marin and sonoma where it's cheaper and cleaner than pg&e you just heard at the puc meeting today like for the second or third straight time for them to say the not to exceed rate the rate they they can't possibly charge above will be set at pg&e's brown power rate guaranteeing you will get cheaper and cleaner power and
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the dark green program would be probably more than pg&e and last time dealing with shell energy and having them do the work for us and now we're keeping all of that in house with the puc and all of that money stays in the local economy and shell is not involved and last time talking about residential only and commercial and industrial was kind of an afterthought and marin and sonoma were active and last time we were like where are the jobs? we have a plan for jobs this is what we heard from this commission. we knew the jobs were there but needed them in black and white for both you guys as well as the mayor's office and we see right now 9000 plus jobs not including any behind the meter anything large centralized
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projects like the old kind not like the ones in your pictures. those would be expected to provide a whole bunch of jobs on top of the 9000 jobs i want to point out that richmond california joined marin clean energy on purpose they are not in marin county they asked to join because they wanted to save the money and get the jobs and they are doing that today the chevron refinery are going to have solar and now contra costa county is talking about forming their own cca because richmond and el, cerrito are getting these great benefits. so it really makes great sense for the department of the environment to be heavily involved there you have the experience dealing about with customers and especially with
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the last presentation we've heard i agree that i agree. thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. eric brooks. san francisco clean party our city san francisco. i really want to speak to all of you but especially to commissioner king i think commissioner king if you have seen me in action over the past decade you know that i'm all about local community benefits and local jobs and local union jobs and prevailing wages. it was the advocates that went to the lafco and insisted that we get the enernex report to happen and it would show what local community
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going to people and we, as advocates, now that we know this program is moving forward, the main thing we're communicating about is making sure there's local union jobs and not the community benefits that communities like the ones that are underserved right now that you have been the champion for get these benefits and so what i would ask is that all of you unanimously support sending the communication to support the program but along the lines of what you said commissioner king i'd also include in that communication a request to the sfpuc and the staff to engage this department on what i was talking about before which is really getting the staff involved in planning out the behind the meter resources for this program and i mean start the planning this month in other words, the sfpuc and the department of the environment should start working together on behind the meter resources now and i'd actually push the envelope past, the great report your own staff just gave. what we're talking about with financing is not just the money that comes from the extra revenues from the customers those extra revenues represent the ability to leverage financing that is bigger so what we're talking about is in your communications to the sfpuc saying yes move forward
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thousand and i'd say add that to the communication that you are making sure that you get what you demand. thanks. >> thank you. any other speakers? seeing none, public comment is closed. so we support moving forward actually before i keep yapping away commissioner king what do you think about the concept? >> i realize that you can't do
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