they're low open the pecking order in terms of the concerns and urgency, however, if we have serial folks that are breaking into thirty and 40 vehicles over time to me getting those are one or two people off the street allows the police to use their resources better and it prevents that from being spread i don't know if there's a process to prevents them from being an annoyance. >> i wouldn't say that property crime is a priority it is not a different standard for crimes committed not whether the evidence holds us u up not a decision we want to do to disruptive a case but our

obligation to protect the intrieth of the system on the property crimes the thing our office worked closely with the police department it is difficult in a one opt case for a judge to take into consideration seriously we've tried to do in partnering with the police department to know they're the people that condominium multiple of those cases and build a case it doesn't show you one car break in but 10 or 15 we're in a better situation whether to request a punishment and more likely to go forward and we inlate some of the situations we see otherwise we've started a multiple of those with the police department working jointly on a couple of operations i can't go into the calls but they'll bear fruit in

terms of of identifying the people that commit those 50 and 60 in a month i'll be happy to work with you identifying what is appropriate. >> let me extend that question my understanding is that the threshold of the month that would will determine whether there's a feloncy missdemeanor and they go out and do that again and again and it is serial in nature it nerves reached the threshold that will trigger

whether this is a felony or not is there a way to look at it in terms of what accumulative if you do this 3, 4, 5 or 6 times can it trigger it to be a felony or not or something we need to amend the law to be able to do. >> not law didn't allow you to accumulate those values over several incidents it is treated a separate crime we have to prove each break in crime so i think you can consider state legislation that will be challenging with what you're describing i think the value if we have an individual that comes in open a missdemeanor the

options are better and chief suhr similar question because i know that we've discussed that with other officers that is a problem when they don't reach the threshold they don't know what to do with them. >> right i think the thought of prop 47 other counties that are not san francisco that were used to be a single petty theft conviction and regardless of the dollars amount is a felony so tlooerl something that is temple dollars and get convicted and it is other case of $10 it is not san francisco so we've got some

of the most aggressive alternatives to the programs in the country and record low juvenile population it went the other way it couldn't get to a felony for instance, i know that in conversation with many of the officers they don't want to get somebody that as incriminated a relating low two cases go to prison is not fair but the aggregate amount might be 25 hundreds that is significant enough but if you bundle the cascades and present that people stealing to the extent to 25 hundreds or a $5,000 thresholds is more than people can have. >> currently you don't have the

ability. >> no currently condominium and petty theft in san francisco and not get to a felony. >> is this just san francisco. >> no, it's statewide proposition. >> right and i guess when mr. berry when you mentioned that we tried to change this through legislation that is something that the district attorney will support. >> i think the solution lies in focusing our arrests and prosecution effort on identifying the high crime drivers i don't think that the perspective solution are going to do bear as much fruit as trying to identify the folks if are committing the most crimes this is where you'll see i saw

the numbers that are low that makes the prosecution rate low in this area if we want to provide relief to the community and staffing the police department this will give them additional resources to bring those cases to us and both of the departments working on high-level investigations to focus on the crime drivers is the best to change this as we've seen other areas of california it face realignment are not seeing the same cases we need to look at our approaches to fighting those crimes and investigating and presenting rock solid cases that fund in court. >> so chief suhr i'm sorry, i just - one of the things i have those types of hearings let's hear the problems i want to see what we can do

about it. >> one of the things i've spoken to earlier the probation parole system challenged a lot when i was out doing regular work if a person got a probation violation they'll get a year they'll do 6 months now the flashing incarceration is 6 today's to the community doesn't get the relief from the person doing crime or crime now, it's days what we've can you think in the past we've bundled miss don't remembers to get to the cases this is important to put the cases together to present to a jury so we can speaking to people if the district attorney's office we need to figure out how to bundle the miss don't rememberdemeanors ab one

09 says they don't go to state prison but can do the time in the jails we know who the folks are and brings in to a tall i didn't of the cases this is danger in urging the word tacorita there can be suggestions made that we don't do here in san francisco. >> okay supervisor breed. >> thank you. i just supervisor yee asked what can we do i think there are a lot of things we can do i know when we have this challenge in my district it is still an issue but not as bad as it used to be when you look at the numbers in

terms of the number of break-ins and part of what we tried to do especially with our captains at northern and park police station to provide tips to resident of the kinds of things that they can do to help to affiliate some of the challenges especially the auto break ins not leaving things visible in our car last year, i made that mistake it was nothing but a couple of papers and my car was broken into i was wondering what was i thinking even the smallest things we know that people use spark plugs and at that point the window you don't hear the noise if they see something they'll grab it and take off oftentimes a gym bag

with dirty clothes but you're stuck with the bill and it is something like not leaving things in ash car and not leaving things 1r0ib8g and not letting people see you put things in the truck we put out messages to our constituents we want to make sure those are the kinds of things that don't happen the quality of life crimes we want to encourage the public to do what. >> can to hopefully being a victim of one of the crimes it doesn't pane it won't happen but i think working with hayes valley association and working with the police station you you know we've cut the crime down in terms of auto burglaries in particular and no, they haven't gone away but not that crime happen as often people changes

their behavior how they leave items in their vehicles number one that's a part of that but number 2 finding when those crimes are happening and doing targeted kind of hopefully, the policed seeing when this is happening in terms of the time period and doing from my experience kind of in the middle of the night making sure we have a police presence in those neighborhoods there are areas where a lot of the burglaries a taking place and also the bigger issue it dale there has to this consequences so we need those prosecution to happen when people condominium a crime there has to think consequences for people committing a crime especially, if they're the person that perpetrate this crime there are a number of things we can definitely do not

an eyes solution was you know soold crime exists all over the city whether it's an ate break-in or a home invasion we have to come up with ways to hopefully prevent some of this from happening in the first place. >> you bring up a great point we put on parking meters and so the short answer to how you can do this is not having anything available within view the other piece that's expensive is the broken window we talk about the goods that are taken i lost a jacket because i didn't loan to my own advise but the window

getting fixed the jacket was not the loss as the broken window address sadly those are the things we spend all our time in san francisco it is railway you see broken glass on the streets of san francisco because we keep our streets in good shape. >> window braekz are the worst if folks will not loaf their digital and electronic devices handy that is really wyoming can folks used to trafficking in electronic devices their tractional and working as a city with the district attorney's office and the officers again, we hire them all back we'll get a handle on this really. >> so actually as i mentioned i

go to a lot of neighborhood meetings and generally there is probably 50 percent of those neighborhoods meetings small business from the sfpd representing that and talking about prevention and i heard it enough when there is not an officer whether there's what we talk about in terms of of auto thefts or home burglaries when you suspect someone report them of time and even with any of the crimes when i talk to people a big percentage don't bother reporting it. >> it is important when you don't report we have such good system in realtime crime mapping that's where we put the resources the best way to not get - >> i'm guilty of that.

>> you have to report you have to get that into the system so we can ago gait that data so we know where the lions share anecdotally we know where the auto burglary problems are especially commercial areas we we work with better lighting and cameras and education that come out of commercial like bars and restaurant but certainly in residential neighborhood sometimes that is one person that might be responsible for several ate burglaries but sporadic the sooner we know we'll put officers in the areas. >> that's one thing i emphasize when someone walks down the street they mention that i go back and try to reach a

councilmember and they said we looked it up and there was no report of anything i have to go back to the same person by the way, such as we know this crime is happening they have no report and can't do anything i think the 09 thing that might be helpful the residents in the community they could be helpful if they stay alert and do the things that police officers do as suggested but also, we know that we can short the police officers for quite a few years i know your attempting to catch up as quickly as possible can you speak to that. >> sure because of the combination of things but the marine accelerator wars the deferred option plan in 2011

that really accelerated residents to record levels against a period we hadn't hired for awhile we found ourselves 3 hundred officers down and thankfully this department worked with an aggressive hiring plan in 2012 that was fortunately fftd we put that plan in place the aggressive hiring plan equaled the retirement that period is past we're making up ground and the mayor's office approved a class for 2014-2015 so we're going to start an academy class that monday and another class before the end of the fiscal year and another one at the end of the next fiscal year now, it's accelerated this aggressive hiring plan gets up to full name

staff in 2017 versus 2018 we're working with supervisor wiener and the controller's office to see if 1971 is a number that was when the population in san francisco was in the 7 hundreds for approaching a million we have more construction and bigger neighborhoods and the like it is in all likely hood the seven hundred number is low. >> as we're approaching the 71 number how about the resources putting more. >> the likely hood is one hundred percent. >> the 3 hundred officers enabled us to do itself primary robot so answer the 9-1-1 calls and our proprietor to stay on

top of violent crime when the 3 had had officers come back those are our beat officers and bike officers your specific enforcement for specific problem details like auto burglary and the like so all that will come back and obviously if there are more officers added it booster our ability to do more. >> thank you very much i don't see any other questions i want to take public comment i have a few cards here (calling names) come up you have 2 minutes. >> first of all, i want to say thank you to supervisor yee and chief suhr and from the woke up if the doofdz i appreciate that

meeting being organized i'm a homeowner in westward park and supervisor wiener lives 3 doors around the corner i'm here on personal experience he had about one thousand dollars in tools stolen if any vehicle and to the chiefs not so much the value one felt things my grandfathers chest it was probably bought for 25 bucks but can't be replaced and the second level i'm speaking this is more important i serve westward park agency as an emergency partner we formed a committee because of the increased crime in the neighborhood and what's been going on i want to - i'm a handy man serving the west portal and

west side park this is what i've noticed and this is what i've customers telling me instead of asking me to fix their fuss even though their asking me to put in dead bolts i was checking an alarm this morning and i just want to say i support additional police i support doing what we do it has a direct impact on the community when folks don't feel safe and spend money and needs and not improving their home on a person level my customers be wear it has a real impact. >> thank you. >> i'm linda i live in the

lakeside neighborhood i grew up here in san francisco and every neighborhood inch lived in in this city up to now my home has been robed at least one time my parent's home i agree with supervisor breed the crime is here and b will continue to happen sins i've lived in lakeside the crimes up there that way are more gifted countless break-ins at the homeowners meeting people are told not to put the valuables in their cars people are carless nevertheless, people get their coarse broken into when there is nothing in them in our block in the past five or six years two

home break-ins and one mugging next door to our house a month ago there was a home invasion in the daytime one person's car was stolen twice, a a my husband and i were lucky one night someone custodial the police for someone wreaking into a car they arrived in time to get the person they caught him in front of our dining room window that killed our at&t apple it's i've had people cock up to my doorstep strangers and saying their from the water department and had to come in and fix something you don't show up like that but i guess people let them in so we

have a diversity and part of - >> thank you very much your time is up. >> thanks for coming. >> good afternoon, supervisors i'm roger president of the west of twin peaks council i have two comments one is a complaint from a constituent and the 09 a suggestion i received an e-mail from one of the long term homeowners in bottle terrace she was on a field trip with a high school class at the zoo and they left gutter equipment on a bus and when they returned the bus was broken into and $40,000 of equipment they recorded to the terrace station and they found out it was posted on craigslist

to sell the equipment but for various reasons no follow-up until several days later then the equipment was sold i think it is a good idea if possible to be able to respond to situations like that where the people that sold the equipment is breaking and enteringly sell it to go on the greg's list and track do you think the people and stop them my suggestion being a long term resident near west portal reconstitute having a beat cop over and over west portal avenue i've heard beat cops don't reduce the crime have patrol cars respond so they know when something didn't seem right purse snatching and things of

that nature that southern and i our elderly residents i'll offer that as a suggestion. >> is there any public comment? chief suhr. >> the one speaker smoking spoke to sometimes, people use a pg&e worker to get into our residents i know this from my time on the police department there is absolutely no reason for any utilize person to go into our how is it should be connected in the exterior point if someone does that call 9-1-1 if you're smart enough to tell them no they'll hit other residents that is that burglar working the neighborhood call

9-1-1 if someone represents themselves as pg&e or puc they need to get into our house call 9-1-1 that's a priority call for us. >> thank you public comment? come on lisa >> i'm lisa the president of the sunny side association we have hot spots where cars are broken into i think hearing chief suhr talking about call 9-1-1 for a utility worker is a reason to call in our neighborhood people are reticent to call 9-1-1 supervisor yee what you said cars are broken into and it would be helpful to have a list for reasons to call 911 that are appropriate if people knew that we could share that with the neighborhood one

of the things that happens to our point they don't call it in they don't open the door and go on to the next house the better educated the community members and we as at president of the neighborhood association casca do that and help keep our eyes open we'll turn around and better educate the community thank you. >> thank you lisa chief suhr. >> something made a suggestion to me probably about a month ago there was a staffer of a car and i guess they were told to report it and realized they had to go down to station i didn't know if the suggestion was practical they said it was hard for certain people to get down to

the station wagon whether elderly or they're working and it there a way i guess the person tried to call it in and they said they can't take the report. >> the 9-1-1 dispatcher might not be able to report but dispatch a person to the person. >> oftentimes which one calls 9-1-1 or the police station they would say oh, geeze i waited forever and they didn't come for two days and if it is citywide plus or minus plus or minus minutes those priorities are somewhere closer to 10 or 15 minutes if you priority calls can take up to hours they are cold calls but no call for