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our equalizer or volume control but those speakers on the high-end can be power i'll second the motion. >> with the police conditions sorry. >> i second that. >> okay. thank you call for a vote. >> we can take public comment on the motion. >> okay any public comment on item the motion now okay. seeing none okay. on the motion to approve with the police conditions for the loudspeaker commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner perez know nothing and commissioner moshoyannis. >> okay. next up the deboth truck stop for the limit live performance permit and okay. this is interesting like a vacant lot or parking lot that's been transformed into a pop up food park truck food park
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and king lee is here and can talk about it i made a mistake you'll find two sets of police officer conditions this is not southern station but mission station no opposition and we did receive conditions from mission station i can notified mr. lee up if he wants to talk about this project it is interesting and i'm king lee i've been with the debois truck stop a lot we have beer and wine we have d tvs that shows the warriors and giants game basically, we invite on occasion have a band placing every sunday outside farmer's markets that starts this weekend
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everybody is happy we're happy to move forward there's the band we want to an occasion have a small dj playing music personal speakers nothing huge anywhere and we have rotating food trucks on the lot they come in and our conditions with the abc beer and within license 10 o'clock. >> are you planning on having entertainment 7 days a week or the permit allow. >> to allow for it mainly for the tv we have like showing the giants games and outdoor tables and eating and food. >> okay. thank you. >> just curious where do you - are you the holder of the beer and wine license. >> yes. >> where do you serve it from. >> we have 3 shipping
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containers that are at locations by the planning department they're the ones that told me i have to do it that way we have 3 proprieties and built a facility which contains. >> 3 shipping containers on the lower side. >> yeah. >> it says kitchen. >> one there's no fuel hood but a commissary. >> where do you serve the bore and wine. >> from the third container. >> oh i see and - and and refrigerators. >> so i have a question same as the other sports bar how about the back any residents. >> there are residents we keep everything towards the front from the planning department they said 50 feet away from them we've spoken to all the
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residents they're really novice they have our numbers. >> you've talked to them. >> and everyone in the alleyway closest to us mostly everybody. >> can you elaborate you've talked with the neighbors did you have a meeting. >> no first of all, with the administration i reached out to they've r they're the talk to the people where in a pdr one zone on our block and there's residential on woodward and behind us it is a little bit mixed in the whole area. >> when you meet with the few weeks do you talk about the entertainment. >> yes. i let them know about the farmer's market maybe a live band and the dj but mainly more
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for the tvs i wanted to make sure we were set up for that. >> are you amplifying the outdoor tv sound. >> yeah. the tv speakers. >> any other questions for the commissioners. >> how about karaoke. >> no. >> they have it up the street. >> that's a good idea maybe a playstation where people can come play that's it. >> thank you. >> at this point we'll entertainer any public comment okay sfpd please thank you. >> good evening officer from the station does this overhead
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work? up or down >> up. >> okay. can you rotate it. >> i can rotate it. >> thank you that's much better so i'm going to be moving those pictures around so i'll try to vocal lists allowing okay. so debois truck stop. >> you have to speak into the microphone in order to get the recording. >> andre i haven't seen you that's my introductory package next coming from the street view of - see the things in you guys packet look like this; right? >> correct. >> yes. that doesn't tell much of a story does it i took
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pictures this is the street view you enter into right here oh, where's my finger there's an apartment building oh, other way like driving backgrounds this is an apartment building i'll show another picture you can see this is a wide open space wide open another apartment building back here more apartments over here that's just going to reiterate my first point of view so i just got this yesterday, i accidently talked with jocelyn but i got the actual application yesterday mission we don't object to the grand live performance permit, however, as long as sound does not exceed a level under the
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control of the applicant that's outside of the boundary of which their floor plan footprint if you will, and that is to reiterate the california abc licensing alcohol license so state of california says here's our alcohol license, however, no sound beyond our control so long as they can contain their sound within that area, no problem and the other point of condition security is to be notified it's in our packet that's all i have. >> thank you very much question for staff please help me refresh my memory taking on the abc and putting in the entertainment commission our sound says it can't be heard
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within 2 hundred and 50 feet from the boundary. >> loose intend audience. >> just wanted to make sure; right? to that end whatever the abc says is what the asbestos absent says we can't grant or not grant based on absent abs abs it cannot be beyond the boundary of the - >> so there's a couple of sections it refer to sound you know called the sound ordinance typically on outdoor sound and this is one reason we've talked to you because of audit they've done this before and it takes a nuance to do this right if this
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is a loudspeaker the rule of 2 hundred and 50 feet of the last intend audience it explicit mean you can't social conditions like the loudspeaker permit like this permit does that make sense the sound ordinance is the sound ordinance if you want to put a stipulation relative to the loudspeaker permit i can do that. >> i have a question in staffs opinion do you want - would you prefer this commission treat this as an ongoing permit as a fixed venue is, in fact, an outdoor space rather than if it was an outdoor one time event. >> it is up to you i think that obviously it is a fixed permit a permit that go be potentially used everyday. >> ize. >> okay. thank you.
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>> another question is if he's renter out the whole parking lot as a venue will that order be for the venue or serving the alcohol. >> i mean. >> the alcohol is not the issue. >> right. >> i don't know the rules i'll suggest to the commission this applicant does not - would be unwise to violate his conditions of his liquor license for observe reason not under our purview to what you decide i don't know if it is relevant. >> so basically, if at the rent out the parking lot. >> the whole parking lot is actually the premise there's the fixed you know little storage containers whatnot they've
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converted as well as the food trucks that line up the whole wide open space. >> so the 3 containers he's serving his food. >> no, this is where the alcohol is coming from the food from the trucks. >> i assume the tvs are there. >> i don't know. >> supposedly the tv near that area how far from to the the in the matter neighbor. >> can i have the screen back up please thank you, thank you are what i think they are which this is a wide guess maybe he can elaborate kind of hard to see many this picture there is a wooden box that is locked right up here and this is this is the very end of the third storage container with bore and booze and that's a
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tv there are 3 tvs next to each other you're looking at just a like i said a wide open space where sound will travel. >> to clarify you got this application yesterday you didn't meet with the applicant. >> i didn't. >> i think from our prospective that is the best practice for the applicant so you know meeting having an advanced meeting with them and talk about those conditions is the best way of moving forward what we can probably push through this i feel like this is getting to a level of detail you may want to work this out off-line i don't know if there recent questions to the sfpd but beyond that we can - are there no seeing none
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thank you public comment is closed. on that application seeing none we will either move to a motion or - >> for the purposes of discussion because it's an outdoor limited live we've done it before for spaces like excuse me. >> proxy. >> right. >> we've done that before i think we tend to try to stick more with as if it were a fixed place menu i say it not apply but it is concerning that the applicant has not met with the police although he didn't have to; right?
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>> no, i know that the applicant when we filled out the application i recommended he contact officer parker he did for some reason they are were not able to meet it was my error i sent it to officer parker and followed up with the station it was on the border i followed up but i should have been camp mather officer parker. >> it's not your fault the gentleman didn't know which police station. >> it's he filled out a form acknowledging he'd contact officer parker you can ask him. >> we're contrary a meeting has not happened so to it stent it be given the sensitivity in a high impact residential area it
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my behove the commission to consider a continuance in this particular case anyone want to make a motion? >> anyone else. >> i'll make the motion just continue the next meeting to april 21st. >> so the applicant and the police department can get together and have a discussion and bring that back on april 21st commission month to month. >> second. >> second. >> thank you on that motion to april 21st commissioner caminong commissioner perez commissioner joseph commissioner lee commissioner frost commissioner moshoyannis. >> thank you next up we have item e which is the yard at 1051 3-d lot a for limited live
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permit also for outdoor use. >> another outdoor this is sort of of a bore gardener that is adjacent to at&t park that opened a couple weeks ago i don't know if you've had a chance to go there they want to add entertainment and kelly will talk about that i want to tell you moments before we came in here we got a letter of their outreach i'm going to try to find it i didn't have a chance to them up. >> come on up billy tells you about your project. >> thank you cammy i'm cell i speak on behalf of mission rock and the san francisco giants the neighborhood gathering spot was
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to provide daily shopping for beverage and retail and community events it is open 7 days a week and occupies lot a i'm requesting unlimited live performance to provide exposure to the artists bay area artists to the yard one the initiatives to be a culture event program that includes cooking demos and movie nights and book reading and musical shows we received e-mails daily for efforts and art events and part of the concept how to play there family friendly and respect of the neighborhood they'll all end by 10:00 p.m. and we even though
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the yard is open 7 days a week we're looking for up to that focus on saturdays and sunday lunchtime crowds we have visibility to impact the waft and the city and local community there by the ball park. >> thank you. any questions from the - >> i have a question is the yard a precursor or is it like a test package of lot a and 248 might become. >> the prototype it is there for the next two years and depended on how the community you know enjoys it are appreciate it we'll have done steven community outreach the
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hoa's and part-time meetings in that area before this project even got on its feet. >> it's a great idea you're using it for a test. >> thank you. >> i think commissioner perez. >> hello thanks for coming where i don't have a map where will the entertainment took place. >> at the generated we have a interesting beer garden and large steps that is built for yoga classes and live music and the courtyard which is anticipating where i'll put up the loud music that the lunchtime event. >> in the parking lot. >> the yard is in the parking lot but that is a licensed space. >> and then i appreciate you allow community outreach for that
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do they know who to contact if they have concerns about the music. >> they do fortunately i'm there 24/7 and for the staffing and all our staff is there for 10:00 p.m. i've met with the neighbors they've said i've mentioned what are your thoughts on live music it's very positive we can't wait to have it. >> thank you so much. >> uh-huh. >> when you have your live music which way are you fatiguing the waterfront? are i know you're kind of so our facing that way or have the band facing - >> the set up the best place it facing lot a their backs to the coast we understand is kind of
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the quieter time because of not much traffic but we'll not have music because of the to the traffic for the most part towards the parking lot so the closet residential buildings restraining order far away. >> travel is quite far. >> we're sensitive at the yard and if we get february we'll cut it off. >> any other questions if not thank you thank you. >> sfpd. >> commissioner moshoyannis commissioners lieutenant david from the san francisco police department this is an excellent example of the collaboration of the city departments and giant bringing together an appropriate package just to set the tone on
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approximate it at terry across the street from the cub i didn't coffee is one containers there's retail space for businesses but in the center as you've seen a bleach section to work effectively the event the entertainment will generally be not on the sidewalks but for visual purposes on the lower level playing towards lot a the good news is the biggest neighbors are the police station and the police building that will open this weekend with everyone moving in i do think this is a real credit to the giants and the whole yard organization they fly through this to give credit where credit is due the department stepped up with the final leg of the opponent e opponent we defer
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back to you thank you very much. >> thank you. >> any public comment on item the yards application okay. seeing none. >> i'd like to make a motion to approve. >> second. >> same house, same call? >> yes. >> yes. >> okay. >> congratulations. >> okay. next up the square item f at 1707 powell for limited live permit. >> this is the square beneficiary morales that applied two weeks ago issues with a neighbor and so i believe we'll hear from the commission asked the applicant to work with the neighbor and come up with a workable plan going forward hose back. >> okay welcome back. >> thank you yep.
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>> i have talked to danielle this morning a little bit and i'm really just here for my piano i'd love to be the independent but it's an old building we're not going to be that any time soon that piano has been in there thirty plus years i don't understand what happened but i feel that when someone is playing the piano i see in the faces of people they stop and i can just see the people that is a beautiful thing i guess i'm here asking for help maybe a bunch of restrictions i've talked with danielle today she said what if i'm sick i said i'll bring you soup what if i need to take a nap.
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>> i'll bring you headphones. >> so you've been talking before and after and not able to come to an agreement and we've been playing phone tag and only talked this afternoon i guess i'm waiting to see what happens. >> is this somehow phone too big with our neighbors have you had a meeting over the last couple of weeks it didn't you talked on the phone this afternoon. >> yeah. >> she couldn't come down to the bar or stepped out four coffee. >> i called her the other day and before the weekend so i notified her to the bar come down and let's talk about this she tried to call me back i've
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missed her call we're in agreement this is not a game of thrones we have to work out this. >> so for as you stand before us you've not worked out anything; is that correct? >> yes. >> thank you. >> have you talked to the owner the building or the owner of the business about sound like proofing that wall that separates you. >> when we first got there they put 24 panels up to shrine it but it's not very good they contacted the owner and he didn't really want anything to do with it. >> is there something we can do as far as i know you have sound like equipment shift the piano to the other side of the bar where we have no complaints maybe come in and test it out. >> i want to get commissioner.
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>> we talked about last time the piano and the entertainment next to the shared wall you tubed moving to the one side. >> that's definitely something that needs to be done. >> those sound like panels did you move the piano to the one side and it didn't work. >> we've not done anything. >> you said it wasn't working. >> the sound like panels have been there before we opened. >> nothing. >> so you didn't even attempt to move the piano to see if it would be a difference. >> well, you told us no music i didn't want to push that. >> so that's what i thought we were supposed to do. >> but you could have moved the piano and tested it but you haven't. >> i mean, did you consider moving the piano at all? >> it's clear that didn't
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happen. >> god. >> so the commission is suggesting you need to work continuingly with your neighbor to what kind of of an arrangement we we say no music that's for the public but testing out what is going to work inside the venue as well as her inside here apartment that level of testing the sound is important otherwise if you can't reach an agreement with our neighbors we're at an impasse any other questions from commissioners for the applicant thank you have a seat sfpd is there anybody from here i think from the central station no comments. >> okay officer ma acids submitted the conditions and approved that. >> okay
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and then that's fantastic anybody here from public comment on this, please come up and introduce yourselves and line up as well. >> hi thank you. i'm aaron a musician who has been playing at the square i want to comment that whether or not this is an impasse now because of work that needs to be done or negotiation to be activated it is a good opportunity to keep this on the table because this is one of the few places that has a real acoustic piano in a neighborhood that is basically violent cultural by the city because of live music historically that is something that is changing the dj implication in san francisco