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stafford >> clerk: i would like to call roll call. >>[call of the roll] >> yellow corn and with us is the chief of police and directors director of office

citizens >> commissioner good evening everyone and welcome to the april 15, 2015 meeting of the police commission. it's nice to see folks here good thank you for taking the time to be with us. we love on agenda tonight. some interesting items would please call the 1st light on. >> clerk: general public, and the public is now welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear in tonight's agenda or the jurisdiction of the commission. the speaker showed us the remarks to the commission as a whole and not the individual commissioners departments or -- personnel. the police commissioner during public comment the police [inaudible] are required to respond to questions presented by the public may provide a brief response. individual commissioners and personnel should refrain however for mentioning entering into debates were discussion with the speakers. this evening we

have a lot of people in the room and would like to hear everybody's voice. so if you could limit you are speaking to 2 min. please. >> president welcome rev. brown. >> testifier: members of the commission we just receive recited the pledge of allegiance. back including phrase, we all know well. one nation, under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. i respectfully said to you that on this past friday that liberty was compromised. snatched away. for a person of the dr. q like yours truly. at 2:15 pm in the afternoon, at

a solemn sacred and sad moment when deacons of officers of 3rd baptist church recessed out of the sanctuary 2 of your officers came to our fellowship called hall after they had told one of my deacons -- and here's her tonight forgot begin fred thomas he can stand up there in the back -- and said, we got a complaint. that you are drummers are making too much noise. it has come to the point in this town that certain

people can have their chinese new year and there's no pejorative statement against the chinese they drums, firecrackers, and noise everywhere. when the -- have their event the inconvenience us in our sacred worship. when you have the gay pride parades, the same is done. when we have fleet week airplanes are flying all over the place keeping out noise but at 215 p.m. when people are in a state of sadness and bereavement, 2 of your insensitive officers have the unmitigated gall to come and tell us a cup hush.

shut up. your keep it up too much noise because the neighbors are complaining. your officers have the judgment of a cat to ignore whatever any neighbor said and came and salted this black faith community. we need -- that's why chief -- not tomorrow -- we need like yesterday that the police sensitive sensitivity training that you are dragging their feet on right now and we are sick and tired of being sick and tired of your acting like we don't have a serious problem in this town. thank you. >> presidentthank you. your time is up.

>> clerk: this is a serious matter. not that shut me down or these others down. you're going to hear us tonight if we have to turn it out like we turn it out over the board of supervisors and i'm tired of coming here and every time you come telling us you have don't have enough time left that were going to be her tonight good or not going to stop to get you to lock us up. we are going to be her tonight. you're not going to cut us off. >> presidentyou have to respect other people's -- the other people in mind. clinical >> testifier: let the people talk. >> presidentin order to ensure we hear from everyone. the director of august and its citizen complaints and automation summons a chance to talk to the dr. or when the investigators about the incident thank you rev. dr. i want to hear from everyone. >> testifier: you let the people speak back in. let them speak in >> presidenti will let them speak and i want to hear them.

thank you. >> testifier: let the people speak. let the people speak. let the people speak. let the people speak. you have the obligation to at least be. >> presidentthank you rev. don. >> clerk: your time is up. >> testifier: >> presidentis the commitment of the commission that we have from everyone. i like to hear from everyone tonight. next please. thank you rev. brown. >> testifier: you been racist ignoring our people. denying us equality and justice under the law. i think it is time. you all be accommodating. you

be sensible. if there were an earthquake don't -- you will stop this meeting. it was an earthquake you got to business as usual. we've got an earthquake of rage in this town of racist police and it's time to stop business as usual. >> president: thank you rev. brown. thank welcome. thank you.

>> testifier: my name is rené davis and i'm here to speak aboutthe most unfortunate cops and robert chase that happened last friday night. there've been a series of these and every time i hear that i am horrified. i am angry. they make no sense to me that people walking on the street buck up driving in a car stuck up are likely to be victimized by out-of-control pursuit and out-of-control pursuers. the people being pursued. it became personal last friday when my daughter was in one of the cars that was involved in an accident. so, i determined to come here tonight to ask, to plead, that you seriously consider changing the chase policy. after the 1st woman was struck and then later died, that should have been enough.

for the officers to exercise some common sense and say we can't catch these people without endangering everybody else melt we encounter on the roads. i really am not familiar with what the policy is, but if that does it they were following policy to policy needs to be change in my opinion. if they were not following policy, then i really believe that they need to be disciplined. and i'm not in favor of discipline. i prefer to exercise other ways of teaching people things sentence them to community service it needs a, but please stop the idiocy of car chases like that. thank you. >> president: thank you ms. davis. next speaker. >> testifier: hello. but tom sullivan i been here many times before. a huge crowd is not a

good sign for. that's a sign that the public is not happy satisfied with your performance in your job. it may even be a sign of worse things that it could be a sign of social unrest. you're not doing your job did you not holding police accountable. not exercising transparency in your positions that's where the people are so outraged as your behavior. okay. i came here for a half years ago with 4 things on my agenda. i added one thing sense. where the heck are the bad scans? even -- was a criminal as bad scans on his people. i hear the airport has them. what is still taken so long? what do you have to hide as what would your officers had to hide speaking of hiding little is all the officers then sent to the pokey recently. the 3 down to -- the other 18, a them were on a mission 2nd i came one was

mission station corruption to, patrol special conducted 3 was all 3 have pretty much been resolved the 4th was corruption. i can did you articles last week and i handed you articles a month ago. 2 articles about -- attorney general who's been held -- let's put it this way -- the federal courts it in no uncertain terms or corrupt prosecution of people using false evidence and contrived by criminal prosecutors is not going to be acceptable and input so there are 4 ways to control police corruption. one way is through the eda. he's not doing his job. one way through the atty. gen. she's not doing objective another way is to the occ. they're not doing their job. report ways for you all. and apparently judging by the crowd they keep showing up every week but you're not doing your job properly either. please do it. thank you. >> president: thank you mr. fella. next speaker, please.

welcome. >> testifier: david elliott lewis. good evening. i think i actually think you have a difficult job and i think you're doing the best in a difficult situation. i think as a pd has a difficult job. they're doing the best they can get that doesn't mean every officer is assuming that a lot of other cities i think we have a lot of great officers in the city. but i'm here to talk about my remaining minute and a half his crisis intervention. namely the upcoming award ceremony. on may 12 and i want to thank -- keeps her for making a donation to our think some of the commissioners for supporting it. i think it's a really important event. for some ever we've ever done anything like this. recognizing police officers done outstanding work in handling a mental health crisis issue with de-escalation not with force.

this is the kind of behavior we want to reward and recognize and shine a bright light to the community and show that there is alternatives to the use of force. when dealing with mental health crises. i think this award ceremony the 1st time ever, which i'm helping to organize to the oversight committee, that i participate in and speaking at the event as well is one of the speakers, i'm just grateful for it. i'm grateful for your support and grateful for the cheap support of a period that's all i wanted to say that. thank you so much. >> president: thank you mr. elliott lewis. next speaker, please. >> testifier: my name is cw johnson did, person lived in the tenderloin committee for 30 years off and on. also a community organizer. the -- have worked with you guys on redistricting and we know there's a necessary evil. so one of the things that we think we both work together and that's what we've done. so what we really hope that you listen to us and that you will --

thank you and have a good evening >> president: thank you so much mr. johnson. next speaker, please. good evening welcome. >> testifier: my name is kevin saul. i'm actually here with the rest of the central city collaborative in support of the redistricting lines, actually here to talk about the high-speed chase over the weekend that killed the poor defenseless woman who should not have been killed at all. there's too much people driving in the city that don't even care about the human life and about anything those people are just trying to exist in the city without having to worry about their lives. if it can be cut short. just today tomorrow or whenever. i hope that these people who committed this crime will be caught and prosecuted to the full fullest extent of the law. i hope the other victim, was not killed by this in is in the hospital. gets

better real soon because nobody deserves to be a victim of this senseless be the heck you were crimes in the city. so i just want to thank you for doing the best you can to bring these dangerous drivers to justice. so thank you. as would: thank you mr. starr. next are, please. welcome by. >> testifier: personal i want to thank the community for getting involved. it's up to us. we are the voters did we speak up and people listen. now let's got down to my -- [inaudible] everyone has bite. yes we do i i hate spinach. let's talk about the bus that tenderloin. 34 people arrested for selling drugs. all 34 were

african-americans. okay. i know tenderloin like the back of my hand. if you remember correctly chief, about a week ago there was another jurisdiction officer who got busted in -- market providing helen with his 2-year-old daughter in the car. am i correct? that was in an african-american. no it wasn't it have you been by the post office in the tenderloin the substation or whatever it is? not african-americans. nope. nope. so we look at that. it paints a picture. it paints a picture that were targeting blacks in fact you it admonished an officer for what he said on the radio. am i correct? yes, you did get to what he said on the radio. vote target one race for selling drugs were in it. take a drive out to pacific heights.

who's giving them that powdered cocaine? it ain't african-americans. i guarantee you that. hello. hello. suddenly, i said it to you sgt. it's unintended bias. you don't even realize you're doing it. it's unintended bias. the study done in 2009 by harvard university. they put people in front of a computer. okay. threat or no threat? every time an african-american came up between a rich white >> clerk: your time is up >> president: thanks. next speaker, please. welcome. good evening >> testifier: my name is sherry taylor, person a 3rd that this judge in san francisco california and i'd like to address the issue of batch cameras. the main thing is even if we have batch cameras

the -- crime needs to be in forget we need an independent agency outside of the one that we have now that will enforce what is seen on the camera. as we know, rodney king was witnessed getting beat up by 17 officers and only less than a handful was convicted while the other officers stayed to watch enchanted and did not come to his defense. while he was handcuffed. we also know that trade on martin was also a victim in which zimmerman admittedly, told the officers that he shot trade on martin and was released to go home. we also know that oscar -- was handcuffed. we have videotape through cell phones, to high tech knowledge he and how is it that these officers are not

convicted? so the batch camera has to be more than just a batch camera. we need an independent agency. outside of the police department that will enforce what is seen on the batch camera were rails makes no sense to wear one. thank you. >> president: thank you. next speaker, please. welcome. >> testifier: my name is betty jones and just coming to address you. i don't like to the way you talk to my pastor. he is a practice of 3rd bass baptist. you guys were run out usn the police out when you're having church but you have the audacity to sit behind desks and tell him, your time is up. why don't you get up and let the white folks tell him that your time is up and then you would know how he feels saying

your time is up. i don't see -- funny. that's a minister. you should respect him for what he is and not what you're trying to be. a quick >> president: next speaker, please. welcome. good evening. >> testifier: my name is shauna thomas am a member of 3rd baptist church. i want to address the issue. i live in the sunnydale housing projects and my attention was brought to the -- there's only 2 black officers in the neighborhood. there's always officers of a different race. there's like maybe 8-9 of them but they just right around my neighborhood and racial profile on these young black guys. i see this all day. every day. i'm just trying to figure out what's the problem. i know it's a race issue, but where are the

officers of color as what they're supposed to be in our neighborhood, right? nobody can answer that? >> clerk: just comments please. >> testifier: that's all. >> president,: thank you ms. thomas. next speaker. good evening welcome sgt. >> testifier: good evening commissioners. i just want to address you again on the matter that is at hand. as the president of the officers for justice, i want to let you know that we reached out to the other police employee groups. the apo ae and pride and they stand united with us. that the text messaging was a very horrific event for the san francisco police department. they can be a learning opportunity for us. the way --

what we can all get out of this is 1st of all the importance of us working together on a united front. if we truly want the police department to be diverse, we have to allow not only the -- groups to be part of what is going to be the reform of law enforcement, but also the community stakeholders. at the same time, i also want you to reflect on something that is also of great urgency and importance. there has been a critical incident that has occurred in this police department. it is time for the mayor to step up to the plate, get from behind about it all and get insider tells what you plan to do. because if you don't were going to continue to

waddle in this mess. we've only reached the tip of the iceberg. even if it's only 1% of the police department, we've got to root them out because san francisco has to prove to the nation once again, we are the finest agency and let's go from being the 14th in diversity back to number 1 where we belong. thank you. >> president: thank you sgt. welcome. >> testifier: hello. my name is brenda washington, citizen organizer with the -- collateralize her. after that is my name last time but i'm back it is probably not the time i know, but i have a prior engagement but i just want to thank all the commissioners for their hard work in trying to accommodate the community. i speaking under redistricting right now. i just want to say a special thanks to commissioner love this for her leadership in the process. i also want to say that i support the boundaries of tenderloin station ending at

oak street. i really appreciate that you took our needs and considerations with hard work that you have done to accommodate us. we came out in record numbers to tenderloin and were very serious about this matter. so i feel that the tenderloin has worked hard in this matter. i want to also thank chief -- or his patience and his time dealing with this matter and thank you. >> president: thank you ms. washington. good evening. next, speaker. welcome. >> testifier: thank you commissioned my name is mattie scott on the founder of [inaudible] representing parents who've lost loved ones to gun violence or anyone lost anyone to anyone type of bias directors and also the san francisco black [inaudible] love is an charge a nationwide movement to stop violence and

they president of the brady campaign. right now, this is what appears like in san francisco. i really hate to say it because i am from new orleans and that's the reason why my parents brought me hear from new orleans in 65 because of the jim crow experience. right now but i'm sad about the state were in. particularly because of the unsolved homicides. because of the 9 people murdered in january, which set a precedent in our city. because of the texting that was very very racist and also truly being traumatized and the migration of black brown and poor people. our communities are being taken over by businesses and also by law enforcement in a negative fashion. i have respect for law enforcement could i have it

respect for the law because i was taught that way. and because you all are civil servants and we work together over the years but something right now is not right and doesn't feel good to be in san francisco. it's very painful to stand here along with others mothers lost their children to gun violence and homicide i know i like ofc. yolanda said were in it to win it. we want this to change. it has to change immediately. the clergy not to be able to worship this is ridiculous. you need to look at that. our mayor has closed the door on all of us. this is about all of us or none of us. were in it to win it. we have to stop the killing and start the healing now. we cannot wait. thank you. >> president: thank you ms. scott. welcome. >> testifier: commissioners that members of the public, i concur with -- and it's very difficult after being a student

of history to learn when you read the kernels commission report and it speaks about a time like this that's coming. i think we are reaching a tipping point and a lot of times, if are not careful we will repeat history over again. i was reading about the 53 people that lost their lives in the rodney king riots back in 1990s and it always brings us full circle about really what is the principle of justice and the principle of policing really means to us. sometimes people may question are we really for the city or against the city. but i think it's important for us to take a good look in the mirror what types of citizens do we want for the future because it's unacceptable that are dr. brown comes up here and