2008, in fact, we had a partnership starting in 2008 that was we served our relationship from teachers of america disagreement over the teachers of america interims we didn't want them only places in local schools and superintendent garcia asked us to try again so i just want my colleagues to understand this was not a continuance relationship since that time nor has it been smooth a nuke of concerns i've never voted for a contract for teachers of america although not sure about 2008 but i have some concerns about the data i

appreciate the data we have and in particular our teacher of america alumni not the interims have done acquit well in places i know i don't object to hire them they come meet with nontraditional and i respect the people who's job to screen and hire them including the principles at school i have in the past i'm sure you're aware of expressed concern about the concentrations at certain schools which i have a problem with particularly because of the stated goals of teacher of america to kind of take over under performing schools in urban areas i want to monitor as

i've told you that -- excuse me. - but i that we should be clear to the administrators that are teachers of america alumni not interested in teachers of america alumni in any schools i'll challenge schools that are career to what teachers of america we want to concentrate and hire teachers of america people is not the philanthropy we've agents on we should be aware that is a proposed captains we've had 15 interims since we've reinitiated that partnership so we're asking to expand that i object don't want to do that and am particularly concerned about a proposal that

teachers of america has part of this will be providing developments to all sfusd teachers so i do understand that teachers of america philosophical and political positions i'm supportive of the mentor model but noted interested in having i am not i'm less likely to supports thank goodness something that says we want to turnover professional development any part of it or say to all the teachers those are the people we want doing professional development that makes me less likely to support it but i do want to express concern about the expansion and the presumption embedded in this we want teachers of america for the

professional development so for all teachers. >> commissioner fewer do you want to respond but before i i'm going to turn it over to our human resources staff i want to be very, very contrary we're not pushing a professional development activities to teach for america has been the practice since i've been in san francisco we are constantly looking at new and different and additional because of supporting our teachers in my way, shape, or form not the provider professional development but regarding the specific questions that commissioner wynns proposed i'd like to ask ms. vascular is

to address those concerns. >> for the record monique chief h.r. officer in terms of expanding and going from 16 to 24 one thing i would like to take note of there are role two alternatives certification one is teacher for america and one teachers for residents as teachers it is a different model a roundcy for teacher of america but it is one of two programs teachers of america another one we have control over participating with the organization and saying how they develop their teachers what we're trying to do with teacher of america perspire is good it to equal to sf t r 25 teachers

a year in part because we have control over how both of those programs develop their teachers but the other pieces is the numbers; right? we're growing in our need in terms of how many teachers we will be hire this year i know i've thrown out the number 3 and 4 hundred our analysis of those numbers has jumbled up a little bit last year, we hired 4. plus teachers so we'll likely hire more it is between 4 and 5 hundred teachers as we look at this need and the area of in addition p need and that is one of the reasons sf t r and features of american are programs we look at closely and think about how we can sort of influence not only the way they develop their teachers but we have a say in saying to them those are the types of teachers we need we're able to say we

need special ed and math teachers and science and bilingual teachers stoopz to casting a net not in lion with the easier we need those are the marines into the thinking behind growing the teacher partnership from 15 to 24 in the coming years i don't know if annie or scott want to speak to the numbers i know that initially the partnership in 2008, was 50 teachers and my understanding is that due to the recession at the time that was drastically reduce we've having had 15 teachers to commissioner wynns point more reasons behind just the recession make a maybe dissatisfaction with the teachers i'm not sure i don't have all the history from the earlier years of partnership. >> i recollect that was really

because of recession we started out what 50 and the following year down to 40 and after that we were in lay off mode no reason to expand that program at that time, i've been around long enough wisp in 2003 and tsa had issues they didn't have their act together we were with them 1 year but in 2008 they were more organized and like i said, we had restraining order in the first year we have 50 multi subject krenltz we didn't need that we needed special ed and bilingual as the years went by we were able to say we need to decrease our relationship but what we had we wanted in those specific easier. >> so i have commissioner fewer and commissioner walton.

>> thank you, dr. murase. >> so my issue i think with that contract is not the same as the issue that commissioner wynns brought forward so my issue is, in fact, i don't think that tsa is the right strategy for our hard to fill schools i think our hard to fill schools need fully criminal teachers teachers that have perfected the craft teachers that have leased one year and a half to two years in a criminal program that tilt has done work in the clamor i was a student teacher for 0 awhile this was a minimum i'll require from the schools with hard to fill positions we had a deep discussion last time we had

a deep discussion about the schools in the boyfriend when i look at the vacancies in the bayview i see that there are many didn't mean i would put a warm body not someone that was not criminal in there two years ago, i might have been desperate and said, yes but now through i think the willie brown recruitment we've been told time after time we can't get black families to register on time i think we can i'm hopeful and think we can do better than this so the reason that and also why i'm thinking this way is because the memo i received on april 67, 2015 state that their pipeline focusing on hard to staff schools and hard to fill subject areas i had a presentation in 2011 every time we lose a

teacher it costs us 10 to $20,000 that's a cost to our h.r. department and resolving door what you said i clearly random we have to stop the resolving door we need retention to encourage teachers to stay with us for 10 or 12 years to be like some of the schools on the west side average is 15 years but also for schools in the boyfriend so what those schools needed sustainability they'll not continuity and staff that grows if john mirror those teachers will grow and grow and grow their craft that's what the students noted thaifr they need accelerated loren and teachers that credentials i know we're in

a teacher shortage expanding to 24 is not a big deal we have 15 i don't want to know if we can't fill those position about 25 positions to fill if the bayview zone schools we'll say we'll put a teacher of america i don't want to say anything about them quite frankly some of them are teachers like that i've known for 15 years i see that there are not credentialed i not in the bayview credentialed teachers i want the best teachers that are dedicated to the perform and know our community well and also i just must say about moderate i know that when you gave the presentation you said the moderate teachers we use rile quickly; right? so my suggestion and also those are

also some of our neediest students most vulnerable students our special ed students we've invested a lot in the department it was a department that needs to be blown out and destroyed and rebuilt in the words of auditor i remember him saying me he said you'll have to blow it up so i don't want to move back to teachers that are emergency credentials, however if we must i did not see that in our strategy you updated that we have paraprofessionals we're working with the professionals as students they've been working with us for some time and four-year college degrees and attended all the training that the paraprofessionals have taken

so i would say reach out to them first and the new interims and maybe get a teacher credential at least we'll have a track records those paraprofessionals have served the students well and know our students and culture that is a better bet than having people come in that don't know our students so i think teachers for america is renovice frankly. >> and i think they have very good intentions and i think they joined the program they want to make the social changes but the same knowledge of the credential teachers no they're out of college and have a two month training program and put them in

our most vulnerable schools i know that, you know, that this is controversial this is something that the district feels it really needs because they wouldn't have this contract if they didn't need it i'm going to say i think we can do better and especially for those are schools if you were to say to me twouz will be ore substitutes for schools that don't have substitutes so for a classroom the common core mathematics that the rigorous standards it is best to have a credential teacher we can do better i don't want this to be something we can fall back on it has been if we can't get so also the early contracts out of 548 went to the

bayview zone we have 25 vacancies we can do betters i'm sorry it is just we need to grow our own you know monique when we were in boston you said you know everyone should recruit i ago so that one teacher that i recruited well, the first one from malcolm x and the one i recruited a fully credentialed teacher that volunteered anothers malcolm x and started at heart i not all of us to do i'm waiting for the plan we all recruit show us how to do that i think our students deserve it if i can do it everyone can get one and i'm looking senior staff you can get one they need the encouragement to do so i know that today it was sort of you know it is hard to say that i

will not vote for this but when i saw that charles drew on the the the- lost 47 percent of our staff and now 10 and now i see i can't do it anywhere especially, when i a lot into the eyes of principle and they say no more tsas so thank you. i mention to someone in the administration that i might not be able to support this and it was hard to say that but he said to me i get it sandy radio you have to vote our own conscious and i don't need a response not to explain anything only to you this is where i stand on my moral

conscious we can do better we are the finest public school system ♪ nation so i knows that the district are having a hard time we've had a hard of time a lot of things when we recruit it is showing we're the best so tonight i will not be supporting this i think we can do better and i can't i want the neighborhood kids to go to school in the boyfriend and role we had this whole confidence i feel like i can't say what i stand for and still approve that i want fully credentialed teachers in the school, in fact, i want teachers that have perfected the craft

and support the new teachers do you want all first year teachers absolutely not but i'll take a credentialed teacher over one not i know what it is a standard it is a minimum and quite frankly it is what our students deserve and theo they need more deserve they need i'm reminded that 60 percent of the men courtyard in our county jail went to our school and 85 percent of them have less than a fifth grade education it's a vote of conscious so i felt the need to explain to you thank you >> thank you. can i just address. >> just a moment i need to

excuse student delegates. >> i appreciate what commissioner fewer has said i couldn't agree more we absolutely particularly in the boyfriend and our highest schools need the best teachers possible commissioner fewer did ask for specific information in response to my general update for the boyfriend we've pulled those figures i didn't send to the rest of the board i want to highlight every hire in the bayview are credentialed teachers we have vacancies and we're trying to fill those videocassettes as far they have

been fully credentialed teachers and prioritize the bayview and want to make sure they have the best teachers and by partnering with teachers of america we're not saying we're going to take the patchers teachers and place them in the bayview i think our intent for teachers of america to subtle our candidate policy no. to streamline and mrs. them in specific schools or specific groups of schools that's not our intent. >> the record has been corrected thank you. >> i just want to make a couple of comments i really appreciate the comment that is noted true h.r. didn't place students in schools principles hire the process principles have made that a practice believe me the

second thing i want to make clear to every special education teacher we don't want to blow you up special education has historic issues in he remembers of the problematic approach we're making it a service and working closely with the professional educators i want to be clear in our passion sometimes, we say things we don't mean we don't want to glow up our education we've worked hard to better that program and i'll stand by that program. >> superintendent if i said blow up maybe i really meant revamp is it we had conversations on that board that special care and caution was in dire need of changes that are different i'm sorry for clarification. >> i feel like it is.

>> i'm making a point it's been our past practice we've put them and have placed tsas in schools that are hard to fill we didn't have positions currently how many or leaving i am saying the sustainability and the continuity it is what the schools needs for an infrastructure for leaning thank you. we have commissioner walton and sxhaen and commissioner norton and commissioner mendoza-mcdonnell. >> thank you commissioner president murase so i want to preference my statements i don't building that all things tsa are bad but i have some major concerns first, i take issue with the model two years as some of our sites

we need the teachers to stick around to grow the program and change the school i think the model sets us up for failure i've spoken to tsa and talked about the suggestions i think they have 2:00 o'clock with their model as the innovate model but it doesn't work for me and my thoughts in san francisco at this time. >> without name schools i happen know tsa teachers but they're not at those schools their legally o leaving they're going to other district and schools and have great access but to the something we forbode to support in terms of making drastically changes in the things we're going to do and for me it is not enough proposed educators to make the

argument that this is going to help us fill vacancies it's not enough we've been averaging 15 we're talking about 24 that didn't butt put a big dents for a strategy to aid those needs it is relative for some of us but for me not even jufrgs we don't have enough in the model that is proven after the conversations and comments we can hire tsa in a different capture we have great tsa aluminum working in our schools we should raise our own and maybe change the model for san francisco that maybe too much to ask for but i think i should looked for 57 thousand children in the school districts i

appreciate our passion you've talked about strategies i'm excited about i think there is another way to get this thing done to fill vacancies i can say with clear conscious and mind i'll not be supporting that. >> commissioner vice president haney and commissioner norton. >> thank you so i had first a question of something that was raised before i get both my specific comments or questions about tsa i want to know a little bit more about the teacher residency as the teacher as distinguished fwro tsa is seems like a fundamentally different model and tsa is unique we met with an outdoor partner in that way condominium to a set number have teachers

you mentioned them together it seems like a different model so that was the first thing if you can respond to that because the rest of my comments are connected. >> both are alternate realized to recertification to use the retainedcy model spend a year as a resident before you continue to get our credentials whereas teachers of america does a substitute where with you become an interim and work towards your credential that's the main difference one is a full year the retainedcy a a full year versus a summary training. >> got it do we have a commitment for the number of teacher residency and how many do we have in that program. >> we do the sf t r model is

different we sit on the advisory committee a partnership between san francisco unified and stanford and san francisco unified school district and the teachers union is on the advisory committee so it is a different model. >> got it so i wanted to also thank tsa for the way they've gone about the process i met with their staff and provided a tremendous amount of information they had similar outreach to the rest of the board members i appreciate the participating they fought with the district one of the things in the data i wanted to ask about i was looking at it over in preparation there is a lot of information that is about tsa

aluminum we're considering an expansion of the t f a interim program i felt there were questions about that i recognize i could have asked earlier i'm hoping we can have that answer tonight i was sort of surprised is it fair to say not in the data shared with us you know which is that for the t f a interims what's their extension behind the second year and the core program lounge did they stay we've heard concerns and a sense that the two year extension of a commitment and again what i'm hearing the higher rate of turnover in the sprirm program that is not the

model we'll need to support and that creates concerns partly to the extent their contained in schools and the challenge with some of the turnover i don't know if we have that information. >> i think we have many of the data and the gentleman can speak to the retention data but some of what i've heard from teachers of america core members in san francisco have simple a positive experience they survey their teachers interest the plummet sites and the satisfaction rate for san francisco is really high so there's sort of a reputation for the experience in san francisco which leads the alumni to want to touch in san francisco this is part of why we have so many alumnus not to mention people want to be in san