pipeline for special education and again numbering them dollar paraprofessionals in our district we've hired some for professionals at sanchez so we'll continue to meet with our partners they already work for us and work for the district and another touch point. >> one thing i'll add about the paraprofessionals what ends up happen they move into a different position we're talking about teacher vacancies but an impact being our current sort of best possums for filling the special ed we're opening up a vacancy in the paraprofessional world. >> i have a couple of points i'm troubled that the commissioners starting with

different levels of information there's an increase from the board that information gets into all the board i ask ms. vac vascular is it is shared with all the commissioners i share the concern of some of the commissioners on covering the classrooms on the teacher shortage inch not seen an overall strategy this board has been asked for a walk through i've supported t f a in the past i need to know how their strategy fits in long-term and short term how does it fit in with the teacher residency model i feel like vote on one poise i'm not prepared to do that i need to see the overhead overall plan i want to make sure my

recommendation we refer it to personnel labor committee and each of us one of my questions to what extent does t f a contribute to the bayview schools dollar a lot of questions about the nature i'd like to have a thoughtful discussion out of personnel and labor committee i suggest we people this until after the committee has an opportunity to present an overall recruitment strategy i'm inner comfortable with a piece meal strategy i want to know what the enrollment at you thought and stanford and berkley in the education program what is our strategy for

recruiting of the 2 thousand plants i'm not prepared to vote on this item. >> commissioner walton and commissioner moore. >> i definitely understand my colleagues passion i really don't know why we feel obligated to sit where we fit into the t f a model they have an opportunity to fit what we need for our students or not that's really simple how do we see 24 positions making an dent in an issue in terms of the number have teachers we're going to need it didn't make a dents we all know that the most creative thinking the better strategies come out of the improbable that was improbable to have a black wanting and latino superintendant and a

japanese board president so so forth the best open when we have to get in there and dig in and get work done i'm not here to here what we can't see this didn't solve that problem if we're going to say t f a we're going to do everything status quo it is not solving problems that didn't makes sense i really, really really think we can do something different i've sat in the room with some of you and you've come with different ideas and strategies that are more robust that addresses the needs and gets things done i don't see why we're going back and forth that is our district. >> the superintendent as a response and commissioner norton. >> thank you, commissioners i really appreciate the passion of the discussion i think that is

role clear we you'll are very, very invested in this we don't control the credential program or the qualifications for teachers to get credentialed there are a number of things we don't control but influence we're influencing and i have to say that when i have met perp with the leadership of t f a in the boifr they're interested in conforming adapting and modeling to what we're asking for in sfusd i completely agree that one strategy is not going to solve our recruitment issue i'm pleading with that board don't take away the option to guarantee 24 slots that are going to be diverse and targeted towards our most difficult to

fill positions federal and state this is not the solution but definitely part of problem if we don't have the lewd and an administration to secure every possible position in the district i hold myself personally responsible to everyone of the members of the board to make sure our principles have the disconnection they need to not concentrate anyone source of the school we've heard that loud and clear and think what when the last personnel committee we've heard we've heard this evening that the colleagues are working with commissioner vice president haney they're developing what that is going to look like and personnel committee month to month to address the broader strategy the reason that is important that san francisco is not loan in the bayview u bay area with the teacher shorthand

if the board decides they don't want to take this up this evening the candidates we've looked at how quality will be gone they're gone because t f a has held them but their hot commodities and someone else will take them all i'm asking for the opportunity to not hamper staff to fill all our positions i ask respectfully. >> i've heard 3 members of the board that have a philosophical objection and are not going to change their mind now where this is going we're starting another four i don't know that any committee meeting is going to change their mind i hear debit from the two you and commissioner mendoza-mcdonnell we're

presented to support the contract unless i mean, if a personnel labor committee meeting is really going to allow you some information that you haven't already received from the staff you know maybe that is a risk we should take but i hear i mean - i hear the superintendent role saying he needs to be able to lock in the 24 positions and to me it is such a small percentage of the total teachers and the total recruitment we need to do i actually think it is a duty not to support hiring those 24 teachers i think that if you, your conscious tells us to vote against this contract tonight and it goes counsel to 24 empty

classrooms at the given the school year it is on you it is not okay to do that i think it is role good for us to push the staff and push the struntd on we need a stream we need a long term plan to fix this plan in a long term way we've gotnot going to do that it's not going to happen we need to do what we need to do it fill the classrooms for the this year. >> i'd like to ask and be respectful of others positions commissioner fewer. >> so i horde the audience wow i want to say that two i know this is a heated discussion and i know the superintendant is suggesting to do something if we have vacancies also, we need to

move some teachers on special assignment at the schools i think we do we started last year with 5.1 vacancies we started with 19 vacancies so i think that what out of heard tonight is how strongly we feel and it is not so much about that we don't have faith you can do it i think what you're hearing from the members of the board we have faith you can i'm hearing we can't we can't we can't actually, i have faith we can i have faith that you know we had designate i know that deputy superintendent in the credentials didn't we hear that and talked about spend money on that last year and choose not to

that's not on the board here at all that's another issue so we've discussed those things you know as the superintendent said we're rebuilding so last time we had a deep conversation punishing and doing something different superintendent i think your smarter than me frankly and i think i actually think you are and i respect you and admire you i know that i've supported you many, many times when others haven't i'm apologizing to you personally that my moral campus will not allow me to do this because i've seen the bayview and the schools i'll trying to build something bigger i know televised we may not have enough plants for those

schools i get it but i do want credential schools in those schools in bayview i know we've got a lot of openings i feel like you know when i got to one teacher from the heart it took a ton of e-mails and meeting with ann yes and the superintendent calling this man up and saying you can make a difference it got her to sign on the doted lion if that is what it takes i'll call respond i'm overwhelm 15 times meet with people but to support those promises that is what i can do within my power this is what they've asked of me we ask everyday that they serve those students our neediest students in those are isolated schools we ask them everyday to perform

they've asked something of me i can't say no so superintendent such as i admire you and think your smarter than me i can't do that torment morning i'm going to have to look at myself and go out to the schools in the bayview and can't tell me this is my responsibility as a board member arrest so i'm - the choices before the board i suggested it be sent to the enrollments committee and anyone can call the question i'm going to recognize matt haney. >> so i know i'm not that abrogate orsmart my issue around it i've heard every person on

the board say this is not ideal and a short term solution in that we would like to see other solutions explored over the long terms or potentially as quickly as possible we want to go another direction to fill the vacancies and our nodes that's why my concern is in the expansion i want to be fully certain in light of the concerns we've heard we need to expand the program what we heard last time we were here last night and late again, we heard that sometimes by the do things as a board that forces us to consider alternatives we take something off the table we have forcing to address things in a school we were previously george if we say you know what

we're not going to expand this there maybe other alternatives to meet those needs i'd like to hear and understand maybe we're doing this because this is the way we were always doing it but i horde if the creative solution on drawing on our paraprofessionals and aggressive on the recruiting you want to understand that is absolutely something that is not possible i think that says something if we're expanding that and maybe norwalk we expand again in light of everyone saying it's to the ideal if it's to the ideal let's talk about moving in the other subscription that's a concern again what we're doing here is

not approving a contract for $60,000 but a statement who is possible and the way we are meeting our critical how needs teacher needs of vacancies so this is why you know, i would like to hear this further we'll expedite as quickly as possible and there are no other opportunities here this is the one that everyone has said is not other ideal one but the only way that's why additional information may swing me one-on-one in light of the fact that every one of us ms. mendoza-mcdonnell probably the strongest supporter i want to know if it's the best and. >> at superintendent understands what i meant.

>> so deputy superintendent gerrero focus on someone is willing to call the question or refer it to proceed to a different committee superintendent gerrero and commissioner walton and commissioner mendoza-mcdonnell. >> just a few words i know when the first day of school comes other than and you have - as this first day of school so many of us work because we have to fill our positions i think our chief of h.r. introduced this resolution as this is one additional way of chaos 1994 a multi prong approach to add to our talent for consideration you've heard we're going to have up to 5 hundred vacancies we didn't have this number last year and

scrambling at the end when i appreciate hearing from all the commissions is that clearly they'd like to see a broad capital strategy i believe that everyone is interested in make sure our schools has talented educators i'd like to entertain a discussion and brainstorm storm how to take a bold approach to sure our under served are having the best educators to work in the school that is doable this is a 6 thousand contract for t f a and the personnel of those folks and we invest do i believe that amount for the same number of residents why? because we're trying to build our intermittently capacity for doubling the number of residents we've been engaged all year along ucsf and stanford

but noted san francisco state that is interested in the teaching in the residence program we want to build and in conversation with our dean that is going to take a awhile to build and t f a is you've received the listing in advance of the commissioners where their places their former members we can be strategic where those core members land i'm a traditionally presented educator i will always value the preparation that the in coming teacher can bring ideally an experienced teacher will be bringing to the setting in our school we can manage that as well i know that the reality of today mid-april to start and

design it capital strategy we don't provide the robust support we should have i'm glad we're beginning to work towards the fraction of our educator that are not getting the support this is our critical need areas i have the listing of the core members being placed custom 86 over time we have one or two school campuses frankly everett and the acceleration they've produced i'm interested we should longtime the collective impact of the educators are making but i do think we can provides combines to the principles that is a small number of core members is to the district potentially i share the superintendent sort of advise that there is a riverside county here if we don't move on they'll

move on to another district with the core members abused those core members are hoping for security so i hope you'll debiting give it your best consideration. >> i'd like to focus on how to proceed next commissioner walton and commissioner mendoza-mcdonnell. >> i want to be clear this is definitely not about the budget in fact, what i'm hearing that st. t r to invest more money i don't want to name names of schools i know a great example is everett in terms of the the teachers go talk to the teachers a a good chunk are leaving that's a part of my statements earlier but to my administrators in the room i'm talking about

the people with leadership that run organizations and city department we get faced with shortages and team members went up have to there's a challenge in terms of who we bring on board sometimes, we go weeks and months without staff members we get frustrated and impatricia patient and maybe people may not be the right fix that will pull out jim collins book it is great i read sometimes that reminds me it's not about the people but the right people on the bus so the program has to fit with what we want to do and accomplish i started my comments not all t f a is bad not this moment in time all 7 of

us have said something wrong we need to be patient and find the right entities because i can't reiterate to put a big dents i wake up in september and take a leave of absence to go in a classroom then i'll do it televised it means that much to me this model didn't work for us commissioner mendoza-mcdonnell and we need to close this. >> i like to see a larger strategy and have a larger strategy conversation i don't think that we're having this conversation for hire for next year and i don't think we're - i'm not prepared to take that away until i know what is going to replace it so, yes we need to

have something different not taping into so many other organizations and if t f a is what you guys want out this is not a push for t f a but a push to make sure we have qualified people coming in our classrooms and don't want to take that opportunity away until there is something else in the place. >> is there a commissioner that want to call for a vote if not to committee. >> anyone come in i'll make the motion second and there is no debate and vote. >> so you're calling the question. >> yes, it is and we'll end debate and vote. >> i need a second. >> second. >> okay. we have to go to a

roll call vote vote. >> ms. fewer no. >> matt haney no. >> ms. mendoza-mcdonnell. >> yes. >> ms. norton. >> yes. >> mr. walton no. >> ms. wynns. >> i dr. murase and no fails someone no, we have not voted and debate so the debate goes on we continue. >> oh, i thought we were voting on calling that you were calling the question. >> it is a motion to end debate. >> and that's what i did i moved we end up debate. >> i thought wisp voting on the resolution so call it again. >> you threw us off you voted yes. >> i was voting. >> i move to call for the

question to end the debate. >> second. >> okay. >> ms. fewer to end debate yes. >> can we legal can you please tells you. >> you're voting now to end the debate the debate is over then the question will be called or there will be a motion to send to committee one or the other will happen. >> after we stop talk it won't go straight to vote or do you want to go to committee. >> i guess you have 3 options you're not going to postpone that something has to happen with the resolution that is before the board only two things is it what happen it can be

voted up and down or a commissioner can moved and seconded to return to committee those are the two acts available after you vote to end debate. >> so this is the vote. >> yes. i vote to end debate right now. >> okay. >> i'm in the middle of a vote so i can't. >> one more clarification so - if we end the debate and either call for a vote or call for to have it sent to committee mates the order in which that happens whefrp commissioner gets- the discussion of president of the board to what should happen first. >> or the action to end the vote if another motion is made i move we send this to the personnel committee then we have

to vote on that motion. >> ms. casco to end debate. >> okay ms. fewer. >> i vote to end the debate. >> thank you mr. haney. >> yes. >> mentioning. >> yes. >> ms. norton. >> yes. >> parklet. >> yes. >> ms. wynns. >> i. >> dr. murase and 7 i's. >> i'd like to entertain a motion to send this item to committee to the labor personnel committee. >> i move to send it to economy. >> i second. >> so this is a vote to send the item to committee. >> no matt haney moved it roll

call please. ms. fewer. >> no matt haney. >> yes. >> ms. mendoza-mcdonnell. >> yes. >> ms. norton and yes. >> parklet. >> no. >> ms. wynns. >> no. >> dr. murase. >> i. >> 4 i's. >> okay. we are concluded that that item which will go to labor and personnel committee at a date to be determined thank you very much we are now on agenda item q superintendents proposal forirst reading i need a motion and second on item in support of naming the sunny side elementary

school to the bell wing is there a motion and a second. >> so moved. >> second. >> thank you very much. we have one speaker card reon this item. >> (calling names) minute and a half please. >> good evening deputy superintendent and supreme court i'm renee the principle added sunny side elementary school. >> i'm on the pta council. >> tun for, thank you for hearing that item the sunny side community is formally thankful our building be nam