concern and which speaks to my point exactly because there's a couple marvin shops and so forth wants to do something to save his business are we punishing him because other businesses in the area are around him have potential may present a limited event so kind of limiting him to one day a month to me is almost when we has this ability to do something to expand his business we're punishing him saying you can only do that one day a month i fail to see why we do that if he gets a live permit and somehow violates it we have a

enforcement to possible make money one day a month we don't want to see what small businesses do this is how i feel and again, i feel like we're punishing him because other businesses that may present a problem in the area in your point of view and the point of view on both sides. >> i think your concerns can be addressed with speakers following him. >> okay. thank you. >> any other questions. >> thank you very much at this time we'll take public comment if there are folks that want to come up please introduce yourselves. >> good evening. >> i'm neeley work with the ocean avenue association i'm the associate director we're working with john here to apply for the

limited live performance permits to try to get another place for microscopic on ocean avenue during want second sundays microscopic it is the most successful kind of performances and kind of entertainment to offer we want to prioritize that so this is really our incentive to during that one day a month during the second sunday's also an letter to that have more venues and more businesses have those priltsd we're helping to pay the cost of permit and trying to support in my way we can so the other 29 or thirty days of most to take advantage of the permits at our last board meeting the full board o a recommended that legion get their permit with no. there's

not the restriction of you know one day a month of entertainment allowed and we would like i'd like to support that permit as it is you know if johnson is happy with one day fine we'll go with that but obviously it would be better to have this business to be able to you know provide entertainment all month that 19 hundred block a number of businesses around p there and, yes there's a muffling clinic. >> a dry cleaner and it is a pretty vibrant mix over there and it has the appearance of a dead block we want to do everything we can to fix it. >> thank you. >> commissioner stefan i'm assisting johnson and his partners on this project i want

to say this the big picture for this business is needs to grow and grow responsible his model when we first opened his business i accepted a lot of conditions if have good council and accepted before he rented one pool table we're in the process of going before the planning department and ask some of the conditions we structured okay. and ask for a type of 40 license beer we feel is accumulative to a bill yards hall and ask for permissions for other entertainment so we can at sometime in the future we'll discuss possibly apply for a full poe so we're very transparent at this time we have an agreement to pursue the

limited live for one day the big picture to grow the business prove to the community he's responsible and can manage beer and at this time looking at it and come before you for your considerations possibly for that a full poe we're going to do this in steps and together and make this work thank you. >> thank you. any other speakers public comment? okay hearing none open for discussion anyone on the commission and i think that audry is correct one time seems like a band-aid you know merchant not the merchant but the association didn't seem they have a problem having a few more i don't know if what you guys

feel controvertible i know the police are concerned it is a just because the other neighbors around impact give the guy a chance. >> well, i think we've heard steps they're going to this is kind of a step by step process they'll be coming back to us things will be hopefully developing quickly as they prove themselves and hopefully continue to meet with the poe and for the applicant can you come up to the microphone in one word you know those conditions do you accept those conditions. >> i do accept those conditions. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> so that's it do we have a motion. >> yeah. i move to approve the permit as requested. >> do we have a second. >> commissioner caminong.

>> same house, same call? >> yes. >> so moved. >> thank you good luck to you. >> okay. next up we have little boxes theatre. >> oh boy little boxes theatre in the dog patch used for rehearsal and some performance they want to open it up for performs for the public thank you to those very patient people. >> i brought pictures but. >> you can put them on the screen. >> down there on the white i am sorry to my colleagues i'm the sole proprietor and he's my very nice partner. >> so there you go everybody

can see our pretty pictures. >> that's a number of different performsers and optimistic we utilized the spaces in the last year and a half originally over tennessee to do like affirmative and production and rehearsal i was a sdaurnger and christen was a model for years in order to gain attention we had an open house free to attend it is grown quite a bit in the last year we've put on 5 to do so artist every month from performing to visualize artists people paint windows, etc. and so we're looking for the live performance in order to assist those artists in our background we're fiscally sponsored small shoz for

individual artists to date i don't believe we've had amplified sound a piano that's all the relevant information unless you have particular questions. >> commissioner joseph. >> i have a question for staff limited live remind me i know that poes the bench is that true in limited life. >> you serve food. >> we don't serve food. >> beverage. >> we get alcohol permits for our open house but we've only had one. >> do you sell any on the kinds of beverages soda water anything. >> no. >> you do not serve them in any

way. >> bottles of water like but. >> so you put the bottles of water out and people take them themselves or do you serve them the bottles of water trust me just answer the question truthfully and it depends on the day a day people come into rehearse take a bottle of water like an open house we ask people to give a donation. >> thank you staff is that a reminded for the limited live. >> yes. we covered this they pulled abc licenses for some events in this case they'll furnish. >> great, thank you. >> is that clear to you. >> yes. >> we're not in the habit of continually offering people beverages. >> any other questions from

commissioners about this application? >> oh, outreach we've done a number of outreach we've begun to every business we can see within a mile radius to the castro we have signatures from nearly every business a a couple of signatures from green and she have in the adaptive community people. >> okay. >> all right. speaking of outreach and again limited live. >> not part of application right here so i'm responding to what you said tell them why you didn't reach to individuals you reached out to businesses i know there is a form. >> he said he reached out to businesses and we did in the open house.

>> number of individuals also signed your petition as well we didn't go to individual residents probably not a nervous consideration for a consideration for people excuse me. but - >> there are not residentss that are ever hear our noise honestly we're in a large commercial building 3 stories across the way a vegetable and their huge vegetable production distribution whatever don't produce them you're right they're not actually residents around. >> the closest residents a block and a half away a set of

condos about a block and a half away concerns for break-ins or high traffic we only seat 50 people - 49 months of artists come in consultant wise or by the bus or ride their bike not a large traffic area and parking all all around or around us not entirely sure why we and approach the individual houses it is an intranscription on my part to bother people in their homes. >> there are other ways to inform them without knock on their doors flyers and houfbdz from staff that gives us ways to reach out to your neighbors without bothering them. >> are there any another questions for the applicant at this time from the commissioners

seeing none, thank you are is there any public comment on this item. >> okay. seeing none can we move to discussion and possible a motion. >> i just move to approve it. >> okay. >> do i have a second. >> i second. >> same house, same call? >> yes. >> all right. approved. >> congratulations all right. so now our last applicant mr. temples recording study and the permit for the entertainment would be for mr. temples i'm going to go ahead and let the appellant and the colleague explain the super cool project. >> if we could how often a few another how often i'm not sure

we only have two copies. >> you can put it on the - >> mr. vice president and commissioners i'm mark with the an exciting project the project sponsor is here tonight he currently owns a successful michael barrier restaurant in the lower hate call magnifying vin you have a how much that talks about the project we'll get into some of the community outreach after the gentleman talks about the project i think you'll find it faifkz. >> thank you for your time we're working on as the gentleman said a second project in the last 3 and a half years to a critically awe exclaimed project moving into the second

one took a large space the building goes through the block we have an address on market street and another street allowing us 0 chance inform two expects on the fellow street does it mr. temples recording studio an market street is a restaurant called cad evens on sell street side with our sell letter cocktail program that leads us to live music the concept to offer night life music to the hours to be clear to be activated what was a fairly block capture the civic center and the happy hour side and provides the microscopic for

those out of the auditorium sf jazz and the neighborhood how to keep a it cultural alive after the 8 o'clock shows we're the answer is it seats 50 those are the diagram we're at top facing north and then we have a type of 47 license to serve informed this is in the late night hours we have food table to 1 o'clock or 1:30 to activate that block to truly engage with the neighborhood and create that vibrant hub that the serving has done so well into a could sayer inch as well the music will that jazz to be a small stage iii to

4 people will be amplified through the house in the pa system talked to the sound engineer and basically a wage of 5 hundred waits and . >> you can civics 0 through the second-story and the construction improvements with our upstairs neighbor as well. >> we have questions from the commissioner. >> so may i have vin. >> yes. >> there are bartender night award. >> it was two years in a row. >> that's very cool speaks to you know your cocktail service i like the idea you reached out to the neighborhood successors and done our due diligence are you basing i love the name cad i mentioned i wonder why aau

you call that mr. toirp recording studio are those pictures relevant. >> yes. when she won an award she is continuing the partisanship and continue with the theme we've created tongue in check name of the recording centerenter studio has you may recall what your howell rate is for recording. >> i see. >> it's been alive that being said that is a way to convoy we have live music happening it is a good time and the band is on as if we were a recording studio

unfortunately inform planned recording or mixing it is you can say a tongue in check way to convey atmosphere and and to any public comment? to the interior we how do we capture the spaces and energy our inspiration is shanghai 1936 those with cultural melting pots to bring the cultures together united in jazz and san francisco is that basically the local tech forces creating culture moving forward how can we be the spot for the movers and shakers around 1:30 over the last night cap we're looking for pacific islander from the tradition from a design sense that brings an international infusion this is a

design to go forward and push that internationally >> i love our answers they're great. >> my pleasure. >> any other questions. >> commissioner perez >> hi thank you for coming i'm glad you reached out to the alliance in district 6 do you have a neighbor upstairs. >> yes. we're in a second-story commercial building and upstairs in the neighbor covers the same square footage that we have the same floor plan above we met with them before we signed the lease and described our concept and are working with them to make them understand the hours of operation they've heard live music we're slithering concerned understand the project and it's intent are now more excited. >> what kind of or sound for

the building if any. >> it currently as the construction is still in process there's a complete lid between our space and theirs that's acting a a sound progressively buffer. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> commissioner lee. >> are you working with a sound engineer just in case things change. >> of course we understand our sound engineer is pitting in the space how to make the room not spill out with the overflow that's in our consideration in working with the landlord and then also our upstairs neighbor as well. >> i think this the block is so hard to get any business in there with your track record it will be successful i think that

will be good. >> any at questions at this time? no. >> i might add apple on the neighborhood outreach i'm kind of proud of this one the alliance for better district 6 mark said he never, ever writes any letters of recommendation and unfortunately, that is the only one i have they recommended the project they liked our security plan and give us a few interesting suggestions we've spoken to one hundred haven we've spoken is to the management and this is a 5 hundred person project i told them and everybody is existed about the project if you don't have further questions i'll request a continental grant. >> thank you very much is there anyone here to speak on

public comment? okay seeing none, move to a discussion and motion >> yeah. i'd like to move to approve this. >> with as standard good neighbor policy. >> this is conditional powerful approval. >> yes. a conditional approval. >> second from commissioner perez. >> same house, same call? >> yes. >> all right. congratulations >> and thank you let's see at this time we have commissioners questions or comments. >> anything from the commissioners to add? no i would like all the commissioners when they get a chance this outdoor event report although long is actually really interesting and i want to thank actually the staff and

especially jocelyn for putting a lot of time and energy impoverishment into this we weren't sure we were going to see the light of day new business requests for future agenda items? anything? people seeing none i move to adjourn at 7:15 p.m. >> thank you