was a popular saving there are 3 types of lies in our society. a good light bad liar and a statistician. the report on race and that's exactly what the department is doing. one by including descriptions with arrests that skew the numbers heavy to lug people that might be described not arrested. so the number by favor certain white perpetrators who don't get arrested as we know the white -- as often as black criminals. so next time this report is brought that all requests that those numbers are separated to the lee know exactly how many people are being described, and peoples separately been arrested based on race. also, the separation i know you said earlier the races that are provided on the paper are following the regulation of the federal government on how describes race and i are stands that might be something that makes it easier for you, but is heavily inaccurate here in california, if you're applying

for anything under middle eastern you're technically white but a lot of people from mass recognize themselves as white. underreport the white hispanics but a lot of people that recognize themselves as hispanics lean more towards latino part of the wasting of latino it onto them so as white hispanics there is no white hispanic get rid of the white when the privilege of being white reader hispanic that is the reality of this is that all these little things skew the numbers in favor of the mass of the department wants to send about research profile with emissary. just to make it plainly have the numbers clear. what race are being arrested what races are going behind bars . simple. >> president: thank you. further public comment? t want to speak? 2 min. welcome and good evening.

>> testifier: [inaudible] i just like to make brief comments try to make it a little more educational. i believe that she was just trying to show you through her chart may be some benefits and some maybe not so much about benefits of racial profiling such as possibly middle eastern or mistaken me have a bias possibly against another -- identifying somebody like i may not know some hispanic. what color hair do you think. tell me what you think. where i've had to make some police reports just based on my thought. i believe the lady was mistreated. she was not treated properly. she was trying to show everybody

possibly some benefits of it but we will never know until the further date of what the rest of work. there could be other reasons why there weren't arrested not just so much just based on white black, chinese. so, those statistics would probably be subjective and not objective. there wouldn't really help some people that have questions that are trying to turn objective into subjective in terms of race. that's all i want to say >> president: thank you. mohammed >> testifier: personal, as you know we been doing with reports at least 7-8 reports that came out in the last 10

years and for the public and those back home that's a lot of reports. i don't think of all the reports racial profiling hasn't been dealt with whether it's the -- report weather reports that even came out there was sponsored by the city. we've spent a lot of money on reports and studies. former mayor willie brown said something and i to go study it to death. let's be clear. the only thing i like to report that said black. i'm hit tired of hearing african-american that silly thing i like from the report. i want us to be clear that reports sometimes get a syndrome. it got this country in a war talk about weapons of mass distraction that did not exist. so, let's be clear when were giving news reports that if the people don't trust the department, the commission program would have a problem with ever we say. that's why it's important to have an outside investigation. that's why the doj needs to come in who in parachute in so we can have some fair dealings

because the trust is even being broken as we speak and it seems like the more we put out reports the worse things get. so, unless we don't tell the committee and be honest with the committee reports we've had enough reports that we know racial profiling exist because now we've got those oscar grant. got what's going on in ferguson did was got was going on israel ready to attack another sovereign nation did come on. we've got to more than just deal with reports like the young man just said that we could be honest with our subject it we don't even need to support not attacking the lady that gave the presentation. however, i'm tired of reports. thank you. >> president: thank you. any of the public comment? welcome >> testifier: i'm -- and i live in san francisco since 1961. just thinking about how

things were when we grew up pace of change so much that i have a 26-year-old son and i'm speaking on behalf of of racial profiling. he has been racially profiled several times but only in san francisco but in burling gain stoppages being in the wrong area at the wrong time. him and his friends being asked to shoulder ids. thank god all their ids were clean because no telling what could happen. just really disturbing to watch the television and see what's happening with black young men across the whole country. it seems like every day something else that comes up. so, i'm here just as a concerned citizen as a black american as a mother as being connected to people who've lost children in him also a minister. i also work with several organizations around the city and it's really disturbing. i see it as collating and it's a little scary for our kids. i just want

to see something get done so glad that you got a good turnout. i just hope things get worked out and get clear and it's fair. we don't know if it's going to be fair but i'm glad people are consistently going out. i'm glad people are doing studies on it i guess it am, concerns and i don't know a lot about the statistics breaking local news and you can tell it's escalating we do have 8 brewing issue. as with: thank you. any further public comment? >> president: thank you. any further public comment? >> testifier: yolanda -- again. i'm concerned because all young men that we represent in this whole entire city black and brown and other ethnicities we are teaching them to have respect for the law. but teaching them how to win the

police approach you, what to do to save their lives so that they don't run that they don't do anything foolish and if they're even allowed to call on somebody because they're afraid. the racial profiling does go on here in san francisco. it's evidence. we have a lot of young men afraid and fear of their lives and a lot of mothers like myself who've already lost a son to gun violence. but, it's hard to talk to all you about becoming a police public servant and explain to them the other side of being an officer that is a good thing to serve your community but many of them are inferior of even as negative image and they don't become officers. we're worried about that. because it's a good job. if we need more police man of color. double-click them in

their communities policing it. so, that's one of our major issues getting young folks unafraid and am fearful of the law. it is sad where we are today they're young people are afraid of the people that supposed to protect and serve us. it's a shame. at the end of the day, we tell them we want the officers to go home and we want our children to come home. at the end of it. that is what we are in this room for. so we can suggest is that all this dessert. so we hope that you take that into consideration and not as an attack but as a solution. as you heard all these people today we love san francisco. that chain. we don't like the changes. we have to do better than this. thank you. >> president: thank you. next speaker. >> testifier: good evening. i cannot speak my name is didi hewitt. i'm a 5 residence activist and current. in the

san francisco community. i used to oversee the committee that oversaw police misconduct in the city many years ago and one of the things that concerns me about this process but we all know about racial profiling. the him about the disparate impact on the african american or black community. the problem that we seize unequal justice across the board. i personally been in a situation where i called out police in my home to enforce the judge's order. not to talk about racial profiling. 2 sets of times but a 911 call forces of officers failed to enforce a judge's order. we need to look at this process. the system is broken. you consider at not seem listening to committee rolling her eyes and think us what we can do about this. geocities committee that existed for a long time. an organization existed for them they didn't have the capacity to address all the misconduct. on behalf of police

department. the other issue is training. the committee sensitivity yes that's mandatory but the need to be more oversight. yesterday i looked at despite the accountable there look to this body to do oversight and enforcement could not just sit in meetings and listen to complaints. they will produce another reports. reporting is one mechanism but what's the follow is the implementation us up for all those officers involved in texting they need to be 5. babies their conduct in pulitzers and embarrassed this department throughout the nation. people watching. you guys aren't [inaudible] everywhere across the nation that was sent for cisco politicians do. you are world-class city gift of world-class accountability and behavior for everyone. justice for everyone. justice for everyone. black white brown justice for everyone. we need to increase the capacity of the occ to do their job. not to monitor 10% of the complaints. what's that going to do. it's not -- it's okay. so were not >> clerk: thank you.

>> president: thank you. good evening and welcome. >> testifier: my name is vanessa and i represent the bayview community and i just want to make a recommendation that not only are young black men getting killed out here in the streets. we also allow in the services go policewomen to set argument up and set them to prison as well. i know 3 young men in hunters point right now that were arrested by officer ellis as an informant. the guns that were in the car had no fingerprints on it but yet they're ready to put the guns on the african-american young men. they claim it was a robbery but yet there was no victims. no one came and said they were robbed. then the police from my understanding in

a preliminary hearing it took officer alice over over an hour to find the pistols that he was looking for in the car. so i just want to bring this to your attention because those human one of them happens to be my son. the other 2 happen to be members of the family and this is what's happening to us. not only are your killing us the sinister jail and they're using their -- and snitches to do so which the only -- the only trial with him and he was evidence they have is from the police and everybody knows the police are just not that credible. >> president: thank you. any other public comments hearing none public comment is now closed. colleagues any comments? >> commissioner: it occurred to me in terms of the reports the one variable that will be extremely important to include because of the question that was

paired to the san francisco population. arrests need to be compared to where the person lives because they may not -- as i understand a lot of are -- san francisco that come into san francisco to make crimes. so, i think when you present the data it is important to present where that person resided so that it compares. you can compare that to the population of san francisco. because the arrest of the -- the address of the people might point to different things. that's available monies be included. >> president: >> clerk:: a limited sort of explain we've heard a lot about the time limit locations and this will be helpful. in the past, when the room has been crowded the assumed that because it's got everybody wants to speak of course i've been here when have no idea how

my people have to speak. the limit on time is based on what we perceive to be the number of speakers. in the past we've asked people to line up at the beginning was getting an idea, do people want to speak. if i see 100 people in your i'm can assume the summary says tiffany, now maybe we need to go back to asking people to line up so that we'll have some idea if there's 20 people that in fact we may save you 3 min. the steward of people were 100 people we can't do that. so the middleground maybe. sometimes folks have to stand whilst we don't necessarily do that. there's a long line but that's one of the dilemma were in. xm ever get an idea about how many and we don't to the card thing. we don't do. jennifer having people line up. i trust that if we asked people to line up and we get some idea about how many people will make our -- but please honor that and because

were changing midstream but that's basically how we been able to do when we go to 2 or 3 myths i find out how many people want to speak. i just want to point that out. that's how the judgment is made. is very simply based on numbers. >> president: a quick commission will please call the next line item >> clerk: line item 3, discussion of possible action to approve new district station boundaries or to take other action as necessary. >> president: colleagues you have in your packet presentation on the san francisco dept. district police boundary analysis., as you're all aware, we started this process in december 10th 2014. where we heard from the controller's office about the data-driven process the department had undergone for about a year to look at identifying a map they would pose to us. the consideration.

we undertook more than 90 day public comment. and stayed in conversation with neighbors about the proposed changes. we had a number of community meetings and a couple times it's come before this commission. last week, we had a discussion of the feedback that we got from the public and some important clarifying points which we share back with the controller. we got a presentation from their consultant on the data impact of those proposed changes. so, what we have what we left off last week with what i left you last week -- the only issue that was even discussed so we presented to maps on this, was whether to extend tenderloin

the western border to polk street were all the way to the --. i think the suggestion by the comment might be cleaner to go to venice. we have heard loud and clear from the tenderloin they would like to go to poke not including paul. that would interest a number of the concerns that referred from the tenants. they were here today. so, i asked him to prepare these 2 maps for consideration. i believe the map that most reflects what we are is the map element tenderloin to polk street. we also heard that the concerned with her colleagues you received the e-mail which had to do with the triangle. those neighbors were aware that the neighborhood used to be split between park and northern and the redistricting process put it together as one neighborhood which is one of the goals, would've put it into the northern as opposed to the part. so, the neighbors there requested -- they were please

the triangle is staying as down one neighborhood. they requested we look at the data and consider a map have an option tonight that would consider allowing us to move the triangle into, northern and two-part. so, we have that option. that in your packet that is option 6. so, my -- i can defer to the controller's office about what you learned and for you to share anything that i might have missed. >> testifier: good evening commissioners. we appreciate you inviting us back overly tonight to come to some kind of decision on this redistricting project that we've been working on. as president loftus just said we last left last week's commission meeting with what we heard was a clear ask for 2 options based upon the dennis vs. polk western border of the tenderloin just to be clear on that, that would not in either

of those options does not include the actual border as the street. in it was, this is where up to the polk would've..coop polk as part of the tenderloin. was included as the tentacles of the clusters coming over up to the edge of a pole or the edge of van ness. so, we did ask a consultant to put together another series of slides just quickly slide you use he wrote back on december 10, 2014. this was the proposed map of the redistrict options based on the working group that the police department command staff and others stakeholders having gone through the process of year-long analysis the data on the next slide here. which shows the cat and cable members as well as the population numbers by district citywide view of it. option one, which president loftus mention,

actually before i get to option 1 good we did also here last week's were locked in with the notion of moving the southern district -- southern boundary to mariposa and so all the steps you season i have that as a lock-in component. additionally, the fallen bridge park area as well is lock-in. so that has not been moved either wait in any of these maps. the park district moving north to geary is also locked into all these maps is arithmetic measures last week to do so. so really, were just really talking about the venice polk options then also the triangle options it. option one, shows the map tenderloin to venice on the western border as well as the data for that. then, option -- we want to keep it consistent so option to just sort of went away from last week. option 3 was the

tenderloin to polk option. everything else again stays the same. the data for that and so what is new tonight is over: option 5. option 4 went away as well. option 5, which this option within tenderloin to van ness and also includes the deposed triangle area moving into the park district. so, you can see on the map here how there's a little much most like gluck said texas to me a little bit on the right >> president: don't say that. >> testifier: otherwise there we can see the triangle and the data on this one as you can see it's easier to see that the backend but it does have an impact on the park district adding and cable calls in the northern fellowship. then

option 6 same map here. the only difference is that tenderloin moves the western board to polk. so, option 5 and option 6 really both include the tranquil area and moving to the park district and the choice there is oh between the polk option or venice option. again, you're going to see an increase in service to the park as a result of that change but it's slightly less. so, the final side eyelet to point out is the summary data page. this kind of is really probably the best way to look at at the impact upon the data and you can sort of see clearly when you look at the park column in the middle of the page option 5 and option 6 uc they do have impacts increases in both and cable. the northern to the left of that has decreases in and

cable. as a result. one other thing we just rushed together she could see it because is not as easy to see on the large citywide maps, is blown up version of the deposed triangle. just because we cut this with some of the discussion and as you can see there is an area -- of the northern boundary is waller but as you can see there's a little area on the eastern side where water doesn't go through. it creates something of a little notch there that could be slightly awkward terms of moving that all that area to the park district. so we want to bring that up for consideration. >> president: >> commissioner: it is waller on the outside of that nice.

>> commissioner it is cum laude coast-to-coast it is what it is. i think i followed up. the request from the neighbors was exactly that. i think there was to your point without this along with the mouse looks like a mouse vs. what people live there. sometimes does look folks who live in the neighborhood so these are just words coast-to-coast across water but i think you're right to bring up that technically on this path -- >> testifier: since his report is probably okay. >> commissioner the fort will remain in the northern okay. the midst. anything further on the deposed triangle request? okay. so what an absolute get public comment before we vote on it. yes. absolutely just in terms of discussion for my

colleagues forgot where i think it boils down to from the community's perspective is either option 3 ago which states is tenderloin to polk but doesn't include the change to the vote are option 6 which again i can't -- returning the map around really within such a short period of time to get it to a place where we can make a thoughtful decision. so that option 6 is the one that also does include the triangle and includes taken the tenderloin to polk and all the other requests that we reach some negotiator around mariposa around fallen bridge, bound ultimately with tenderloin with look like all compromises were achieved to this really good process. so, those questions that commissioners have i would suggest we go and take public comment and the combat together and see if we're any further questions after hearing with the public has to sit. thank you very much. regarding going

to public comment on this matter in particular on our decision to adopt a redistricting map tonight. you can go ahead. julie us you waited in line. they welcome and good evening >> testifier: good evening commissioners. my name is gail segraves enema tenant organizer at the -- hotel which is on between larkin and paul. i came here just to say thank you to you all for listening to our needs and our concerns and i let you know we appreciate you working with us. for this map for the community of the tenderloin. i would also especially like to thank pres. loftis and also chief -- for your working so very hard to make this possible for the tenderloin community. thank you. >> president: i think you made possible. thank you very much. thanks for coming out next speaker.

>> testifier: hello commissioners my name is mark shroyer and him representing the bose tranquil neighborhood association and friends of the most part. 1st of all we want to thank you very much for the work you put into these new boundaries. we understand that we are literally coming to the table but we really wanted to make 100% sure that we had community consensus before we said this is what community is. we think we do. we do think it's a very big move. if you look at the map their, it's really a very very small area and we think we would be actually belong in protestation for a couple of reasons. number 1, we think we have a lot more in common with neighborhoods in the park district for example, our neighbors are the panhandle's brain up with the cold valley nasa heights corona heights. all these neighborhoods really are much more like our neighborhoods then say -- parts of northern station. the other

thing is that in working with the workstation there's a big transient population the kind of moves from safely one and 2 golden gate parkway on the end and we feel those people should be monitored by one station rather than to get it provides continuity and the officers of park station are really familiar with the lot of these characters were talking about. the 3rd thing is that basically, most of the problems we have in our neighborhood are priority team b's and c's. so, we think that being the case will probably get a little faster response time by being in park station which in a way is a lot calmer than northern. thank you. >> president: thank you. next speaker. good evening and welcome. >> testifier: good evening my name is pat touro and i represent deposed triangle neighborhood association. i am the treasurer. we ask that you

support keeping the triangle in the park station at this time. we've had a lot of property crime. we had a violent death in november. and we have had in the last year a constant escalation of this trust really in the community in feeling like we were very vulnerable to crime. park station heard that cry from the community and has done everything that they possibly could and has been on the street and have gotten to know the neighborhood i think much better even recently. i think keeping the continuity with park station in terms of the perception of the community