wouldn't care, but i just think you live here, you are part of the fiber of the community. it is really important for someone like myself who comes from non profit and pretty much put my life in this type of work to support those that are in the non profits so that again, they can partner up with the police and with the fire department and everyone else to make the city a better-there is a lot of issues that i feel the city can work closer with the communities, the school district and so forth to improve things and it is really up to us to support these safety issues or safety net issues or whether it is more housing, i think there is nobody here that is against having more affordable housing in san francisco. i would like to see more of it. i think

we'll work toward that, so thank you. >> thank you supervisor u. if no other questions or comment can i continue the item to call the chair? supervisor mar and wiener we take that without objection. any other things before us? >> no. >> [inaudible] thank you, we are adjourned. @p.

>> good afternoon and welcome to the lafco i'm supervisor avalos the chair of logical today is clerk call the announcements please. yes please be advised the ringing of and use of cell phones planning code are prohibited at this meeting. . >> thank you. let's go to the fir item rrlt. >> on that call of the role supervisor avalos supervisor breed supervisor campos supervisor chiu's supervisor mar is alice griffith absent mr. chair you have quorum. >> approval the lafco minutes regular meeting

cultivation have you had a chance to review the minutes questions or comments going on to public comment seeing we'll close picking up public comment and rrlt vote. >> first and second. >> motion from commissioner cruz and second by commissioner linda commissioner linda is an additional sxherld and item 3 consideration of the lafco budget for 2015-2016 thank you we have clerk of board. >> good afternoon supervisor avalos and members of the lafco the clerk of board i'm here today with andy our

administration and finance deputy to answer questions that surfaced during the lafco review of the proposed 2015-2016 budget as the commission is aware in 1963 the state legislation created the lafco in all county the responsibility stepped from the 19985 local government reorganization act sxhaenl in san francisco the coincidesed with the san francisco lafco being activate the lafco locally the lafco established their mission bay and created a work plan for the adaptation of a conceptually model of gfrnsz for the future of san francisco including among other things a straight

utilities strict within the framework of the city and services at the pleasure of board in 2007 when i became clerk of board the economy was in recession he determined at this point that lafco had a massing one million dollars carried forward i worked with lafco they've agreed agreed and the board of supervisors agreed that the lafco instead of proofing more dollars would conduct a general lafco business under this agreement lafco retired the reporter for primaries in the future if approved by the board fast forward the chair is reaching it's end life in 2007 the board requested that lafco take on

additional roles of the project so do to they asked for clerking assistance when the board of supervisors authorize via motion and memorandum of understanding was created between the puc and the lafco for the ability to utilize costs not to exceed $2.1 million for a virus role for the puc implementation of cca provide are 7 slides i don't intend to review only the first 4 for the clerking support the remain 3 slides provide the current general fund carried forward and the puc carried forward on slide 2 the versus actual in 2008 the board

approved the motion authorizing the clerk for additional administrative assistance for the additional support in corneas with the agreement my office charges lafco a $27 million support of costs and half time clerk is about $72,000 a logical and the board agreed to the arrangement that was the exception for the advisors role the frequency of the lafco meetings and the workload due to the sires will increase 3r5ish8 instead of him or her new staff they absorbed the duty and fin they moved the friendly benefits cost from the general fund to the logical carried forward-looking back we understand it never materialize

as you can see on table on slide 2 through the clerking services will lower the actual costs of the services are much higher than 20 thousand and supervisor breed you've identified a structural issue that needs correcting it currently charges more staff time to lafco than is utilized or needed so since lafco general fund carried forward will be decompleted we'll recommend did half time clerk will be moved back to the general fund. >> supervisor breed. >> can you explain that because i think that i'm a little bit confused by the statement. >> the statement that it is paying for more than it is using. >> thank you, madam president

the halftime salary the entire salary oozed used to be paid for by the general fund when the cca advisors fund lafco for clerking services ramp containing new staff we absorbed those staff and rather than continuing to have ism of them pick up the lafco and board allowed them to pay for the other halftime similarly for that staff you started did conversation and appreciate you're asking the important questions if no other questions i'll move to the staff and clerking services provided by the office through the chair. >> oh, sorry linda there's a difference of 61 thousand

dollars for actual to the budget for the halftime per year. >> that's correct as far as the information that is on the slide i will be a little bit more forthcoming we engaged in a conversation with the lafco clerk that indicated it is actually more than that in terms of the the hours utilizes. >> the follow-up question is mined is lafco paid the $71,000 anticipating halftime employee who has that money. >> in terms of the staff who are currently hired in my office. >> i was wondering it went through a certain budget line

item. >> the lafco is a line item in our budget so it is in the budget for the board of supervisors lafco - and the board. >> in the clerk of the boards budget that's correct so it is currently a line item in our budget. >> understood okay. >> hi the lafco carried forward is off budget it was bucked in the prior fiscal year the funds are in the reflected in the we are talking about the clerk of the board has a division within the board of supervisors the hours clerk of the board the logical has it's on separate index soda code those are not coming into our office we charge those expenditures separately and it is throughout the year to

cover the costs. >> basically move the expenditures from the side to lafco kinder forward because the clerks funds are supporting the sore the assistant clerk we moved those expenditures quarterly. >> from the clerk to the lafco carried forward. >> yes. >> if i may i first time to say the clerk work is good but the difference i'm wondering i guess to put to blueprintly are we anticipating to get that back? >> i think that is a lafco question the answer is no when we bring the budget every year this predates mr. frooedz time

although he was hired in 2009 we authorized two positions to lafco we'll give back to the general fund our entire budget we don't get that back that's a conscious decision we made during we had a surplus figuring out what our budget needs were and glen eagle golf course back to the general fund that came from the general fund originally so it wasn't as if it was anything not known so to speak so once now our surplus with you we don't have the available fund now we're staurl a partial general fund charge and so i think that is the question now we're dealing with what should be our budget going forward. >> so i'd like to ask a followup question so monies have

not been because in this current budget what's going to happen the rest of the reserve will be used and request to ask inform additional general fund dollars which has to identified in terms of where those monies low come from in order to support of the budget federal or state for the entire year that's my understanding so we have a make a determination the question is where do we anticipate those money coming from. >> well, my understanding is that there is a certain amount of that is overhead dedicated to the clerk of the board and the fund that go to zero fund come from many, many sources we're requesting at the board that the clerk is allocated a number of

funding to cover the diets of the clerk that includes lafco. >> thank you chair and going forward we as the individual that will assign the allocation of hours of the clerk will not just assign a halftime clerk going forward any longer weighing we'll assign the hours that the lafco is using and the ancillary hours will be used checking e-mails. >> i think i'm hearing two different things i want to make sure i'm clear i guess what is accident amount of money that is remaining that's in reserve for the general fund that was given back previously by lafco where are we - i know we started with a 4 point something