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allow the private action for nonprofits in the kim action and within one hundred hundred feet for the supervisor campos ordinance and mayor ordinance and prohibit the performance from listing you units not having a good business and adding the short-term rental to have the mayor to have a department staffed by the tax collectors office and make maximum number of nights it can be used a ass a hosted or inhosted one hundred and 20 days and if should use sensitized the illegal conversion to tourist and remove the provision in the administrative code for the hearing of violation of sound
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this is a department sponsored amendment and remove the cross-examination of witnesses and don't require the hosting platforms to report the number of itself it was occupied do not remove the owner of the resident or residential unit of a definition of a interested party for the supervisor campos and does not allow private rights of action after 90 days without the department issuing civil action and finally all units as long as as adu's from being used as short-term rentals and on the last point i believe that supervisor campos wanted to remove that from his ordinance
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you can still vote on it. >> several other agencies are available for questions including u including from the controller's office that concludes my remarks. >> commission this is a second year college student for economic policies and housing affordability and real estate development he's been with us for several months before arriving in the bay area he worked in new york city for a nonprofit and in operation community to schools and high poverty he's a graduate with a bachelors welcome. >> good afternoon as john mentioned i've had the pleasure of working with ann mare competing research i've been
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trying to uncover about two central questions first what is going on in the short-term rental market in san francisco and second what are the potential threats from short-term rentals to the housing supply 2, 3, 4 san francisco my work uses all the pub available data from the large short term platform and large sample of listing from grazing list i think this allows us to look at the evaluation and all to calling your attention from two conclusion first, the conversion of parliament from hotels motivators there are 3 airbnb unlist in the city and many analysts classroom in the
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two small is a number for housing crisis i have 3 reasons i disagree first 3 to five hundred thousand unit is actually a lot of when you compare those to unite to rent the rental market imentsz is extremely hot in san francisco and so 3 to 4 thousand unit are a lot impaired to the thesis unit available for rent at any valuable time and important importantly the the majority of unit and unit we believe are commercial and high invent unit are located from the central and downtown area the mission and hate and castro and hundreds of unit being taken off the market could add to the shortage we're
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experiencing finally the market a evolving we expect that more and more people want to use short-term rentals in san francisco traditional hotels are reporting their full at the moment and no new hotel units coming online there are reportedly one hundred and thirty thousand visitors that stayed in short-term rentals i expect that number to roadways i second conclusion that maybe possible to set the cap higher than the 90 day limit before we see the conversion from short-term rentals to hotels my analysis as i mentioned we looked at 3 thousand unhosted around unit of 9 thousand grazing list found based on this estimate a cap of about one
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hundred and 20 to days incentive vision zero almost no conversions i'd like to through a few caveats the statistic i mentioned only talks about the profitable amount of work people are doing what i'm saying we're incentive vision zero landlord when the cap is much higher than indeed and 20 days this is not all the impacts and the rental bedrooms are taken off the market or roommate situations removed and third this data is reliable but acknowledge not perfect accurate i ask you to view this as an economic guidelines and not a scientific estimates so i'm still work on a report a full version complete in mid-may
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hosted on the planning department website i'm available to answer any questions to sum up the two conclusions one the loss of unit from the long-term to short-term rentals conversion matters and the 90 day cap revised for the long term rentals thank you. >> thank you. >> shall we open up for public comment. >> yeah. >> and just for the benefit of the public we will be taking those disabled persons first and everyone's comments is limited to minutes. >> okay could we ask a question to mr. march right now.
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>> i forgot to mention alex has to loaf at 5. >> just a short question may i ask why you're only using two sources airbnb and embracing list rather than looking at broader there is different patterns of other platforms so awhile i'll accept your economic analysis the impact is slightly nor varied and intense look at the broader data. >> this is insightful data for the kraigdz list this was the only data i accounted get rather than using the board summary statistics for airbnb i was hoping to look at data i could
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classify that right the only rental approach i had data available from 5 different points of the time and commissioner antonini. >> yes. thank you for your report i have a couple of points i think you said something like the average week r was 43 days a week and average income $950 per month obviously some represents are making a lot more is that accurate to our report. >> as and mentioned at the end of my comments i really hope you take those numbers as guidelines i was trying to estimate revenue i don't have booking data from airbnb so it is not possible for the exact number of revenue but you're able to get a general
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sense so the assumptions i made is that each liz was rented for the average days that's been 5 days per booking then we do know that reviews are under recorded by some instances and reviews for the way i tried to proxy to estimate houchltd their rent and inflated the number i ended up with a range of a minimum to guesses as what is happening in reality without true numbers from airbnb. >> even with our high-end estimate it must be low enough you can make the conclusion that you can allow one hundred and 20 to one hundred 80 days if the money that is gapped from the short-term rental is not
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accurate certainly the landlord makes more by renting it to a permanent resident for an entire year that is an important point you made in our report i would think this is how you came up with that. >> absolutely the breaking analysis what was more possible not necessarily whether airbnb is profitable at all that's the only distinction. >> it's break even not other than. >> not for at&t park. >> whoever has to make money. >> absolutely. >> that maybe the defining factor someone is distancing having to put up different people that in their render unit there are inconveniences for that unless substantially a better situation they're more inclined to have permanent
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respecter. >> that's a good point. >> commissioner richards. >> one question our basis for the recommendations were economic did you consider any other economic reasons and how you capped those. >> is your question why did i not include the i'm working on a new model for rent control and other reasons for holding unit off the market leonardo da vinci hold unit off the market for many reasons how much they make over a 10 year period. >> if i'm a landlord i'm averse to rent control okay activity you're afraid to get them out this helps me to keep the unit
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off the marketed it provides some level of income rather than vacancy. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much i have a quick question in your report you say that the vast majority of unit that are rented out full-time is a small number and tend to be concentrated with commercial i guess you can't call them yourselves there's the owners the property and you arrived at the number of 3 average unit for commercial did i read that correctly or. >> there's a few different numbers you may be referring to you tried to estimate the number of bookings per month for the distribution of airbnb unit to the number 3 or 3.5 represents the upper end the distribution
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to the top 10 percent of most intellectually used airbnb unit are rent out about 3 to 3 and a half times more. >> there was a but i think that you also talked about commercial users and the density of the unit they control so people who sort of get a lot of income in short-term rentals by renting out unit full-time tend to control more than one unit. >> that's one question that is difficult to answer is it so incredible difficult we know how many units a host has on airbnb but no idea whether that host is a booking agent to each the listing could be opposed by a different individual even though
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their managed audio the same booking agent on page 17 i have the hosts that list the unit 10 to 15 percent on airbnb have more than one listing but not possible to say from that all of them are multiple yeah. >> thank you, very much. very much appreciate. >> and good use of staff for this kind of report thank you. >> thank you. >> okay opening it up for public comment and there is a block for time that was requested. >> the organized opposition will have a block of 10 minutes with 3 persons. >> the controller's office is here and has a couple of minutes to address the commission?
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i don't see mr. egging con i was here earlier thank you to >> commissioners doug with share better san francisco coalition of affordable housing senior and disability activist landlords and part-time owners association and neighborhood groups that weer opposed to the legislation you have 3 different pieces of legislation we want those in the supervisor campos ordinance that are opposed to other things why are we here today everyone agrees that the law that was passed last year is unenforceable and rather than talking about genetics if i can cite an of somebody who list off
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the airbnb listings today hey, i'm carolyn my husband and i own a hundred property in san francisco? a business for us we don't live in those apartment we special in short-term rentals we diesel with vendor who make sure our firms are well maintained and tenant get great customer service center who's this person google is wonderful this person is carolyn connor and she runs a astounding recruiting firm here's her phone number and address if the planning commission and the board of supervisors have followed the planning department recommendation last year that all hosting platforms not list unit that are not registered that the city those 3 unit shows
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advertising will be available for permanent rental they not think short-term rentals but that doesn't happen we submitted that to planning last august and it is not hard to find this person nothing has happened she's still taken off 3 units of affordable housing market in san francisco most important recommendation that you can follow is to require all hosting platforms to only list unit that are registered with the city and county of san francisco as short-term rentals. >> that's the most effective thing you can do to get all the bad acts that are abusing the
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law airbnb could do this tomorrow the signs say protect home sharers the easier way to leave the real home sharers and kick the other people out they have the data they refuse to do that hide under home sharing to allow this to go on. >> you role need to do you want our recommendation i want to point out a couple of things that are real, real problems that go to the enforceability the farrell lee legislation removes the address from the public record so the first day in the history of city government you're going to have somebody that gets a business license to have a commercial activity in a residential
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neighborhood without any information available to the public of who is doing it and where it is happening if somebody sees a problem they'll call the city and is that legal or not legal they can check themselves there is going to discourage enforcement and complaints, and, secondly, the farrell legislation removes the requirement that the city can look at if you live there permanently that's i mean that is opening up a can of worm relocate those amendments in the farrell legislation anyway our next speaker is sarah short in the tenant group thank you very much. >> hi, i'm sarah short with the
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housing rights the san francisco good afternoon a coalition of tenants groups released a report showing it evictions in san francisco are higher than a decade we see the landlords getting their rent control tenant out and basically trump up charges hoping the tenant will be scared out and for the small lease violations like hanging laundry outside believe it or not at this point more and more long term renters are losing their homes and we're losing unit 5 thousand unit are being taken off the market inform short-term rentals 5 thousand units for those who are being evicted could now live 5 thousand unit are newcomers
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would live rather than displacing other we have to consider why there is a uptick in the evictions consequence i think not when you can't - when you rent daily and make the same amount 6 money in a full year there's incentive to empty units as planning commission emersed you're in a unique position to stop the hemorrhaging of this and this is the most not able thing of san francisco making the national and international news you can say enough is enough and help to insure our city priorities all the citizens over the dollars you can do this day by supporting the strong enforcement manufacture like those many the supervisor campos that allows the tenant to sue
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with real unions with mandatory and - the 60 day cap by the ordinance will help to insure the return on hosting is not so much greater than at a mostly rent to rent short-term rental rather than provide housing this mayors ordinance does monopoly of that we're asking to the do the right thing by supporting the ordinance that has the enforcement supervisor campos and rejecting the mayors proposal that added fuel to the fire that is the daytime crisis we face today thank you next up is mr. lou.
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>> local 2 you know hotel workers are doubly effected by this issue we've heard it said several times that hotels are high occupancy but we all know we've been through to movie before the hotel destroy it if you do not understand the fact i understand you to came back two or three years when we hit the down side and see the incomes and security that hit this sector of our economy but as significantly hotel workers are representative of the thousands the san franciscans facing eviction or housing inner security because of the mass conversion of the residents into tourist rentals the simple fact short-term
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rentals are the greatest distribution of affordable housing in this supply not since the great earth and fire have we seep this many rental unit off the market you can represent to tourist as well as san franciscans to so it the an open invitation to thousands and thousands of more units and the displacement of thousands and thousands of more families from our city this is why we urge you not only to support the stronger enforcement but hosts can rent out what when in their on vacation but not sensitized to pull their unit off the market the stakes are two big to resolve this through legislation the owners of the $20 billion
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corporation airbnb demonstrates they're not willing to spend millions to buy the law i believe for all the hard work and the credit to the planning department the analyst california work this matter will be resolved by the people of san francisco i want to introduce our last speaker. >> unfortunately, your time is up. >> okay now opening it up for public comment and make accommodations for o who need it each member of the public received to minutes. >> i'm bob i came here to speak from a civil right prospective the current legislation despite all the studies and analysis the work of the city attorney and the planning department and
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building inspection omits a response in essence to people with disabled with a legally protected a class prior to the - it will be a requirement to indicate whether or not the unit was assessable so i've got a horror story a gentleman in his mid 40s reversed a unit for his mom she'll have to walk up 42 steps it didn't happen if you look at adds for restaurant. >> bars they advertise wheelchair assessable but this is a crapshoot there recent aspects of this is is responsive to people of sdalth a 60 day cap
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is - somebody with high pressure or an infant you don't want partying right of action can be a benefit private right of action is incredibly good for the poor and expediting it is important for family with health and sleep problems those are benefits that should be considered to hope people especially vulnerable that's why i urge to delay this and start at the beginning thank you. >> good afternoon can you hear me okay. i'm mri are a i'm a 21
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resident of san francisco and i've survived an eviction survived several years of homelessness and seven years on a waiting list before i found a home i ask you guys to please support strongest enforceable regulation make airbnb be accountable for listing not registered and make sure that their some way to enforce those legislation i support supervisor campos legislation as being the most that comprehensive and able to hope people the housing is getting worse and as a person with disabilities we're getting pushed out there is no new
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housing being built for people that disabilities the old housing for being able to get rent out flats and stuff is it disappearing under around we're getting pushed out of the city it is important to be here we get our medical care here we get to see medical specialists ones with our city we lose our medical. >> any other speakers that need to be accommodated i'm going to start calling names if i hear our name called and your -