for a date. it was for a fixed date so i think we said you will get another report from us in septwith updated numbers and when you asked for that we were still going through had hiring process >> i just asked for the report that we asked for when we had the supplemental. i thought it would be reflective but it is not. i think i agree that you need more eyes and the supplemental was supposed to give more eyes, but it seems the difficulty is train thg people fast inf to fill the slots. if seems like you haven't filled it yet is what i'm hearing? >> we added-we did watch candle stick. we have eyes on candle stick at night so when

it transferred to lunar and closed down we moved those rangers into our system and now have a exstre7 on the street and are in the process that will fill 3 more is what our directser of finance administration is telling me. >> that's not my question. my question really is-[inaudible] do you have other slots to fill or positions to fill? >> once we bing in the 3 more we'll be fully staffed. again, we don't have-there are reasons we wouldn't have every single fte on the ground at once. this is physical work, people

do end up injured and on leave >> that is good to know because i think if we move for the budget process [inaudible] important for me to know you are capable of filling them. that is the main point here. the other set of questions is around the club houses. there are 47 of them. quite a few of them as you mentioned are being activate td by partners and each of the partners-you get rent out of it. i'm curious how much rent do we get totally? and what do you do with it >> it is all most insignificant. the totem amount of revenue we generate is about 250 thousand a year on a budget of 160 million. we don't do this to make money. in fact all the leases are well

below market rates. we do it to activate the club house and the decision was made because we fleed to save operation jz maintenance cost. we haven't talked about the custodeial fleet but they clean restrooms and play ground, but we do not have adequate resources to be in all the buildings. we have a lot of buildings. basically the o and m costs that we are saving by having partners come in and program and many partners are fantastic and offer very cultural competent or neighborhood springe problems. if we staffed all the club houses we would probably be in the 4 and a half to 5 million dollar raisk and that gets you 1 person 40 hours a week in a building and then

some part time custodeio time mptd we have one person in a building-one of the reason we like our model that we developed is we have 7-8 people working in our reck centers at any time so we are able to offer a array of programs-most of the reck centers have recreation counsel that are people that advice the staff to the programs they want and because the model is plexable kwr use temporary staff we are able to identify both cultural companyitancy and programmatic #c5e678itancy. this is why we can do zoom buor teach saulsa dancing and bmx bike{skate boarding because we can find student and part time people interetc.ed in teaching and

making money that have a specific skill versus taking the staff we have and sped them around the best we can >> of the 47 sites quite a few are pretty activated and are there ones that are not as vacktivated in and haven't found partners yet that reck and park used more stafficing to activate them? >> there are and even where we have get them activated there are a couple models thaare successful that involve a blend of partner programming and extra reck and park hours. west portal club house is a big success where we-it started with us using that facility for after school inretchment. it

is one of the 13 after school sites. the mayor and [inaudible] have been very supportive of helping us work the non profit partners through dcyf. we funded--richman. i got that wrong. we work with mariea for the youth programming non profits. at west portal seft help does morning stuff for seniors and youth in the afternoon. many asked for a program on a saturday or night. we are in the business of providing as much joy and resources as we can. joy and programs as we can. >> i appreciate the work that reck and park does for the communities and you have been flexible and [inaudible] trying to activate west portal and a

few other places so thank you. >> supervisor tang jrshz thank you. thank you mr. [inaudible] i know we touched on this briefly in terms of growth and demand and the need to create more parks and i know that is very difficult to do in san francisco. i am wuntdering high level in general how reck and park is approaching this ixue especially since our topic today is paired about how it is we serve our children and families with a growing population. most especially with the new developments we do have requirements for open space, but those in a different realm so i wonder how reck and park is planning to address that issue moving forward. the growing demand and lack of space >> i add mostly in terms of programming versus straight

open space >> it is a great question. i think that we probably are at with the resources that we have we are at pretty close to capacity and we are delivering a large number of programs and services. we do through had community recreation consul and dcys needs assessment and the planning work we do in our own plan try to list toon the community about emerging needs and i think are pretty responsive. more partners working with the y and with the boys and girls club and our staff at bodecker allowed to offer nearly 10 hours of activation a day at that park in the tepder loan. that is a tough model, but at west portal

club house we have something operated for most of the day. there is a debate in the businessbutting and unstructured recreation and think both have a place. not everything needs to be programmed. if we have clean safe play grounds, it is [inaudible] if we have clean safe spaces people will come and while we have found that more people will come if there is programming that is national data, if the places are well marked and clean and safe people are going to use it. a mix och active and non structured programs will continue to listen to the commune tee reck counsel for the needs. we work can san francisco state and lot of big cities in terms of park standing and understanding best practices. that is sort of the

thought with respect to programming. acquiring park land and space, we have a acquisition policy. one of the best things about san francisco is 98 percent of us live in a 10 minute wark walk of a park. which is good. that dozen meet everyones needs and dhoo have pockets in the southern market [inaudible] there is a lot of discussion that the mayor led that i had the opportunity to participate in planning for the water front where there is a spike in new housing and needs open space. we esited about the projects along the [inaudible] that will give a

great opportunity. there are 300 acres of new open space in that area being planned. the plachbing department is our leading syson long term planning. we are committed and believe in public recreation and programming and want to make sure all is plenty to go around >> i hope as we continue to grow as a city that there is that dialogue between reck and park and planning department to figure how we do address the growing demand for open space programs or not. thank you very much >> supervisor mar >> i wanted to say that i like how you framed that many of the housing units in multiple units building are going up with high density and no access to open space or back yards. people that live in

single room occupancy hotels even are in more critical needs. i want to ask about neighborhoods with high needs and parks. you mentioned boatker park in soma. i know from that maintenance standards scores that the controllers office gave us a gap between maintenance with some disttricates verses others and district 10 and 11 seem to get the lowest maintenance standard scores. how do we insure equity of low income neighbors and reach level maintenance? >> i don't have the report but there is good news in the report meaning the historic

gaps in high scoring parks and low scoring parks is diminishing. we made improvement in district 10 and 11 and 6, in those underserved areas and we do look at the data and make resource allocations and resource decision based on need and data. there are other things that go fl to it, that are-that also contribute. one is really developing robust studeredship networks in the neighborhood. mu claren park is a really active stewardship group now and that resulted in more volunteer time and more help in that area. by the way, it is a policy decision for us we gets lots of corporate groups and big groups and just had the warriors. we are steering more and more activation and large volunteer groups away from

golden gate and to mu claren. we want to create more awareness about-mu claren is the second largest park so that is why i single it out. creting networks and that is why the san francisco park alliance is important and the [inaudible] they build community and studeredship around parks. flend of bodecker play ground was created because of the community planning process around bodecker and now we have that stewardship. equity is just a fundamental concept for us. parks are the great equalizer and great democratizeer and supervisor [inaudible] is a great example of a piece of [inaudible] critical open space >> the new bathrooms in [inaudible] will make sauch kiferance. i know like duloring park how many people

go through [inaudible] square so it makes a difference >> the long-term theme-we have grouth in city and more people use our parks. we need it manage that grouth and respond to so we keep them well maintained for the next generation >> i had a couple questions about the citation issued by park patrol. there is increase and challenges in hiring, do you have data you can share on the citations issued by the park patrol and dem ographically on the individuals who received the citations >> we have data on citation issued and if my park patrol man would here he would say you have to talk yourself fl to a ticket. the first round is education and the second roind is education and third round is

education and maybe if we don't get the right response maybe there is a citation or repeated violation. the system doesn't allow us to track race and other sort of social dem ographics. i think we can do it by park. we can show citations by park. supervisor i think you have some of that data in the report and we'll update it, but we are happy to provide that. >> also for the new restrictions on hours and parks, do we have a list of there different parks impacted by that because i guess some parks don't need monitoring while many others do >> again, i ink in the summary which again will be updated the next time it is done, i think we do talk about

that. the number of citations issued in those code sections. we had some enforcement, but we are targeted in reforcement and we sate repeated violators. it is a tool that we have, but it is a tool that i will maybe challenge the assumption that we need to be better resourceed to use. for the right reasons. you are not going to see a large number of those mpt >> i know the justification for the restrictions and hours and then new park patrol is curb vandalism, do we have dat saw that shows that we have made progress on reducing vandalism? we are still seeing it as a huge problem >> we do tract vandalism, so here is sth problem with

teasing that out which is as we have more grogetd or instances of-we can't control the input. whether or not i think it is too soon to tell whether the tool-zee to be resourceed to use the tool and don't think we have compelling data to draw the correlation between reduced vandmism and the statute. what the statute allowstuse do is it allows to preimp skly say it is 3 a.m. and it is time for you go to home rather than have to catch someone in the act and that was the intent. again, we are not inventing the wheel, this is something that every urban park system in america has. >> ioknow supervisor wiener is probably working on the

economic impact report of festivals and events in the parks from flaub nob south side lands to more medium size as well. i know the sf state studied by for the outside lands concert, but that will be valuable for the city. do you know what expenses the reck and park depark department generate? >> [inaudible] did this study. we are the 7th major city in america that has undergone this. what they call-this is direct tax revenues from park related torism is about 47 million dollars a year. those are direct tax receive new. that isn't money that comes to the department, that is much less, but the direct tax receive new

is about 47 million a year attributed totoryism and indirect related to torism is estimated to be 400 million dollars a year. it is rather significant. with all the large events our expenses are reimbursed in addition to whatever minimum annual guarantee or percentage of rent or receive new ree receive from that relationship is on top of the expenses. we understand that special events have neighborhood impacts kw we are sensitive to that. the good news is we have stability with the partners that it gets better. the partners have gotten better, they learn and want to be good neighbors, but it is balance cht golden gate park is visited by 15 million a year. it is a national and international destination.

>> this is a question about the cars trucks and vehicles. i know after christine [inaudible] was tragicly killed in 2013 and the sit a giving out a 15 million dollar settlement for the the family the number of vehicles and the training of those vat utilize them sl critical for the city. my understanding is there about 700 vehicles within the reck and ask park department, is that accurate? >> that is all our rolling stock. which includes the mowers and turoes and struck trucks. >> do you have a sense of how many are necessary >> that number plus about aort150. we do not have enough

vehicles. we have custodiums with their chemicals thane cares. if we have x number of custodeiums and they cover 15 places they need a place to do it and get there. we take our vehicles-it was a horrible incident i participated the incident urkts bethe safety incident is excellent. [inaudible] it was a horrible horrible tragied but if you want maintained parks and you want safe parks you actually need a parks department that has a rolling stock >> thank you for answering. it sounds like we need every vehicle and more >> vehicle shortage-what we

have been doing and taking seriously andee want the lowest impact vehicles we can have in the landscape and so we are working with the fleet city administrator, our own fleet administrator to downicize as many vehicles we can. we have heavy equipment. we don't need 350 in the parks, we would rather have turoes or carts or 150. we are trying to make the vehicle foot print as light and as green as payable. our goal is actually have as green a fleet we can and have been talking about thew do that. it is a light fleet, but i cannot tell you we do not need vehicles. we very much need vehicles >> just to touch on the point you made of volunteer support for the parks from friends of woodland across the street from

with whereyalive to friends of lincoln parks i can see how valuable neighborhood based xhounty based friends and volunteererize to the district. i want to thank you for the great presentation too kwrrkss i think that is all the roster now. i know you is a few pages left. if you want to go through a few more slides i would ask >> i just want to say we have been coming off rough budgets and we are actually very optimistic about the budget. we do have priporties to make investment and that is in park safety and environmental sustainability, active living and getting peep outside and customer service and that is how we make decisions about where we make our investments and we are very precative of the mayor and kate for working with us and we have a long way

to go and structural challenge tooz take on, but the budget that we submitted to the mayors office does touch on a number of the buckets where we make incremental prau progress in that regard >> thank you very much. >> thank you mr. gins burg for your presentation. we have 2 other departments. [inaudible] department of dhern and youth and family. thank you for waiting as we continue to talk with the other departments >> there is a request for public comment on the previous item >> if there is anybody that-why don't we do this quick. if there is xb that wishes to comment oin reck and park department we'll break

this hearing item up. >> thank you chair farrell for letal me address the supervisors. i wanted to just-from [inaudible] i want to cu-mind the department on its amazing recreation suvss. a as parent in san francisco my kids have benefited a lot from cooking camp squz surch camps. i alsoment to say the general manager underscored a lot of the challenges. at the parks alliance we do a lot of work with them on this and analyzing where the department budget needs to go. i think they are very serious needs in park patrol and serious needs in urban forestry and caring for the trees, addressing the defered maintenance budget which is growing and the needs are growing. the city is growing and we need to take care and preserve the

investmented. they generate economic activtopy in the sitsy and it is to all our benefit to take caif e care of them and fund them so thank you >> thanks very much >> [inaudible] san francisco youth commission. [inaudible] thank you so much for your presentation. i'm glad you mentioned the equity is a fundal concept and [inaudible] on march second the [inaudible] passed a ruzlution it urge the supervisors to conduct recreation and open space analysis [inaudible] further along this concept and hopefully look at safety of parks, ability for youth in neighborhoods to access parks and field in other part of the sit ee [inaudible] number of youth in need of after school activities rkts dustbution of open space, recreation

facilities by type, [inaudible] by neighborhood, neighborhood density and neighborhoods with high consstration of youth. people och color, low income families [inaudible] these are all from the youth commission and thanks >> thanks very much. mrs. sue, please come up. thanks for waiting. >> try to do this. good afternoon chair farrell and members of the committee, my name is mariea sue and director for department of youth and fam laeds mptd it is my plether to share a brief snap shot of some of the budget priorities and also to perhaps brag a little about some of the wonderful

thing happening in the department and in the future for our department. i want to start by saying thank you to the committee foring the service focused conversations and the first is on children and families. it leads into my first item on my slide which is the reauthorization and passage of prop c. i want to take this opportunity to thank all the voteders in the san francisco for prop c. [inaudible] the passage of prop c at a rate of 73 percent clearly shows how much we in the city care for our children and families and how we want to continue to insure funding for these services. i also want the thank there the non profit agency and children advocates

who worked for all most tw years to make sure all the voters in the city understood what the proposition meant and how it impacts them sevlgs and the livelihoods of all in san francisco. finally i want to thank supervisor yee but there l the mb thofz board of supervisor jz board of education and other elected officials for all your support and endorsement for proposition c. the reauthdization of the land mark ledgeilation allows our department to continue to provide finding for children and youth service for another 25 years, but it allowstuse fund young people tupe the anal of 24. our transition aged youth which is a key key policy decision that we greatly appreciate that the voters aproveed. these are young pe