go mr. rose report. >> first of all, let me make a clarification a general fund impact what in not spend about or will be in reserve for the appropriation approval that's why in our report on the recommendations i'm jump ahead that represents a general fund savings as far as the report is concerned on page 2 of our report we report that the unofficial reasons for the additional overtime fojd or for the fire department and the sheriff's department and others shown in table one of payment 3 of our report and we state on page 6 of our report that except for $91,000 plus from the

$900 million plus for all the departments bans spend dictated provided by the departments the budget analyst agrees that all the departments looked at and bans expenditures we made our evaluation and agreed with everyone ever everything depict on page 7 we state based on a detailed analysis the request for the sheriff's department is $94,000 more than the estimate need for the $4 million plus so therefore we recommend you amend the proposed ordinance for the appropriations by $91,000 as i stated if you accept that recommendations that will be a general fund savings

and we recommend you approve the ordinance as amended i'll be glad to respond to any questions. >> thank you very much mr. rose colleagues, any questions. >> commissioner president keane. >> thank you. i guess if someone can respond to the budget analyst recommendations. >> is someone from the sheriff's department here? >> good morning, supervisors. >> thank you my name is kathy i'm the chief deputy sheriff we've asked for predicament salaries and move it into your offer time budget with the intent hundred thousand dollars would be spent 0 on two needs anticipate before june 30th of this year those two needs are anticipated increase in the work order for the department of

public health for a site up the project that involved the new hospital we expected additional staffing and in order to accommodate that request and not have to come back we anticipated that additional cost be factored into the four-$.2 million and the citywide event that have not occurred in early april those event range from incarceration to black lives matter event in order to staff those we've submitted a request for appropriations. >> have you spelled out when dennis herrera we're almost at the end. >> it is imminent and addresses the need for the dph when the hospital is turned over to them

with the patient excuse me. >> mr. rose. >> members of the committee let me give the written responses from the sheriff's department when i happen to have in an e-mail from the under sheriff of the sheriff's department quote and this is dated in terms of at the supervisors know we provide our draft report before we show it to the board of supervisors to the department and take any information they provide to make certain if we've made a mistake or our report needs a classification we'll change the report when the department got the report this is the recommendation before you here's what they stated this is from the under sheriff it is dated april 30th, 2015 quote this was to our nasty will

rely on your evacuation as long as we understand we're on the recording on the recorded if quote battling end of get hits us no questions regards this under sheriff and in the further e-mail states quote pleased remembered it will be an incident called by that time and mayday may require overtime to lock the property and including sflt or city hall. >> oakland is a flash point just a thought regards the there shelf supervisors if there's an incident it occurs in the

future, of course, and qualified by the sheriff's deputy we'll recommend approval for your consideration but at the present time based on our analysis of all all 5 departments treated in the written information they've provided not the oral testimony you're hearing we modest our projects and ask you reduce this request by the $92,000 that's our recommendation. >> so may i respond thank you sir, if i have an e-mail i sent the analyst dates may 21 i want to reiterate we estimated hundred thousand dollars in order to address the needs of the dpw work order we'll have to fill those are needs to address did hire of additional ftes to

fill those vacancies they estimate the starting date i don't think that is appropriate for me to say please verify if you require additional support you think anticipated and preplanned citywide events like mayday event and blast lives matter demonstrate the use of overtime ellis we require the use of overtime to meet our daily matters not only for the citywide matter both of those items were raised in the previous e-mails so i want to point out there's another overwhelm wire trying to void coming back for a second appropriation. >> based on the numbers that were prepared including we

considered this our recommendation is the stage the department says they want to void come back but based on the documents that was provided to us we make that represents in the same manner for the departments again, if a scombrifs we'll recommend through the committee at that time. >> i'll say i appreciate i think you know where our coming from in the psa past we can't have departments coming to anticipate for its a challenge unless every department don't something like that going forward colleagues, we can either fully accept mr. rose's recommendations are not take hits recommendation i think this is a clear path to put those

fund in a reserve but we know they will not be allotment to the departments budget right now and we know that evidence of the means will come down if they are to be spent that's a different option but this is for discussion i'll probably between the controllers not permitting right now open the privilege level i'd like to have the departments come back to the budget committee i very much trust the controller's office so supervisor tang. >> thank you for the suggests supervisor farrell i'll agree with i guess your third recommendations to put it on this controllers reserve that is the best of two worlds so for anyone else agrees with that. >> why not open this up quicken to public comment anyone wish to amen seeing none, public is closed

and so i would very much support that to the controller's office office any objections before we put it on your plate. >> for the controller's office office we don't object we'll put that on reserve. >> i'll make a motion to put the $91,000 plus on the controllers reserve and pass it on to the full board i move we send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> do have i have second. >> seconded by supervisor mar okay. >> mr. chair would you like to do you want the motion to amend the ordinance as amend it to reduce it by the $91,000 plus and we have a motion by commissioner tang and we'll take that without objection. madam clerk call item 3. >> for the record the ordinance is amended it is recommended as

amended to the full board. >> item number 3 hearing open the proposed budget for the information commission for the fiscal year 2014-2015 and requesting the commission to report. >> to you now jason fried lafco. >> i have a power point presentation that i'm going to go through i might go a little bit quicker out of respect for time first off to go over the basic budget process we're american people independent state authorized commission and the local act establishes lafco our budget process is a 3 step process that is used we have to

have a proposed budget presented and approved by our commission by may first that has occurred we have 92 we treatment that to the city and county of san francisco and mr. lafco this is the counties and special integrity in that county gets that we've done that and final budget presentation by june 15th we have our planned for the may 16 meeting and then from that all lafco is fund by the san francisco's case we're extinct from the san francisco and work for the purposes of helping united states out with back office work so moving on the annual budget is 200 plus thousand dollars that was established and boontsdz the regulations that

will be our allocated amount every year for the past seven years based on the down turned in 0708 lafco this was before my time with lafco worked with the city and county to return that money we've been running it we had a large reserve it was over $900,000 and now to a point we nonetheless have enough of reserve to fund our operations so by the end of this year we'll on the other hand, with we'll have below the amount we need we have an additional amount of money we draw with the special agreement with the c puc so one thing we've daughter-in-law over the course of the this year to create and make sure we're spend our money

wisely any money we request is well documented addressed taken care of some of the cost we've brought the executive director robot our legal council has been serve as interim so for several years a savings of $40,000 every year that is split by the way, cca fund and your lafco general fund and established a proper reserve policy to make sure we have enough money to pay our bills and united airlines our bills with the budget it easier for etch so understand your budgeting process so consideration for lafco and changes hopefully in the next fiscal year we'll have launched the ac construction program centuries i've been with lafco and what we've seen we're

actually doing special studies i know supervisor wiener through the board of directors asked us for an election study that will be realized realized and supervisor tang asked united states for a underground utility we've been doing all those dudes e duties so those two lafco are paid for out of the general fund account and 0 not not cca fund our proposed budget i want to mention that considered at the april meeting some constitution how we're billed and paid the office of the city clerk we're in the process of reworking that we'll see a little bit of a savings and making the request and i'll be making the suggestion to fix whatever the process right now we're will

requesting from the city and county half of our allocated amount and returning the rest of it we only want to have as much as we need but make sure we have a proper operating budget there might be a slight change we've returning a slightly higher amount not 0 whole a lot of money under that attitude we only take what we physically need approach that's the basic presentation go i'll be happy to answer any questions. >> mr. chair opening it up for public comment. >> seeing none, public is closed supervisor mar. >> so mr. freed i appreciate the hamburger and the separation

from the clerks budget it's great our clerk is here i don't have questions i know that is much more detailed than what the budget is now i think such made an effort to give the amounts i'm clear and know that as you move forward with the pretty much a bare bones budget it is clear kind of where the money is coming from as we move beyond the period as lafco as well; is that correct. >> that's correct. >> i don't have any further questions. >> okay. if no other comments right now we'll keep the discussion going so at this time a motion to file. >> motion by and their and seconded by supervisor wiener

we'll take that without objection. madam clerk, any other business before this committee? >> no, mr. chair. >> thank you, everyone we're adjourned