ds that were though how we come into contact with those cases through our human trafficking hotline and complaints from the community and also from the victims themselves after we've conduct the inspections with the individuals priority with services and later on feeling they're able to talk with us they feel comfortable to talk with us and again what our doing for the whole community that deals with the massage establishment is we mediating weed out the good from the bad address setting up the folks we want to see this decrease but i'm pretty much the stakeholders here in the room today are not the ones we're investigating regularity human trafficking we like to see that we said to see more when we came in contact with the

victims it is frustrate with the interviews their fwlanz at the owner or the controller of this of those establishments and look important answers or responses especially, when we are asking about the permit and their passports and those services we provide and post results before those numbers went up i added i used to give this information write down and program that inside the victim's home and tell them this is a safe number to call again, we support this legislation and i will take any questions. >> thank you, sergeant floresublic knowledge clarify those are massage establishment under dpw what will the sfpd play for the turn off all electronic devices or through the routine inspections.

>> working closely with eden those matters we'll distancing be in implication if we receive a complaint into a spa or establishment we'll pissed put that individuals open the list of special circumstances inspections to approve or disapprove the fact and understand the folks that are working in the establishment and their hard working folks to kind of alert them and let them 90 know of labor violations they'll communicate now or later we've assisted individuals as we're conducting our interviews with those individuals you'll see the look in their icy ask them if they want to leave now we'll help them pack up their sukdz

and again provide services 0 so they can leave my focus is the ongoing investigation and the ordinances hold the owners affordability if we believe there is human trafficking inside those locations. >> thank you very much any questions. >> thank you to all the department speakers through the chair if i can opening it up for public comment. >> yes. please. i have a number of speakers if you need to speak you'll be allowed to speak call up fiona from our state board of equalization and call up a few more cards line up in front of that window. (calling names)

>> thank you very much members shortly after i got elected to the board of supervisors in 2002 there were 2 homes raid in the sunset district two groups of women from korea were trafficked here to the united states and it was contaminate i got sucked into the world of human trafficking the hotel and people came to my office and educated me on the plight of many of the women that are forced her their passports taken away you know their stripped of speaking to their family members and the shame they feel being revolved in this and the victimization that those women feel not only be duped most of the time but being involved in the trafficking we looked at ways to try to got this issue asset

forfeiture for the people that own the property and know those businesses are going on and increasing the pentd and crime statutes but settled on requiring a conditional use permit for those establishment it riches the owner to come before the commission you know show who they are and talk about their business you know practices and really shed light on transparent so i think it really decreases the amount of human trafkz that occurred in san francisco and thankful to supervisor tang for bringing back the original ordinance thank you. >> thank you very much. >> good afternoon massage ordinances before you

are viewed through the lens of human trafficking and the massage establishment is an after thought everyone is notified to speak longer 2 minutes on human trafficking advocates and everyone is seeing the nail it is city of chicago out higher and forgetting about the providers that over massage as a human arrested we would like to continue to be seen as a professional and if you do that we can if we had the operation of exemption massage establishment becoming certified establishment and this group will be exempt from going introduce the conditional use permit we're like a massage therapist the massage therapists are carding by the state as human

arts professionals we're chapter 10.5 like a chiropractor or physical therapist or occupy u occupational therapist and also a concern about the massage permit to practitioners currently in the law the sole provider has the higher credential for the permit. >> i'm sorry, i have to interrupt the board recommended me of a rule no bartenders posted in the chamber you need to speak to the content open the banner thank you. >> so the current under the raw in san francisco advanced massage practitioners are allowed to get a full fixed establishment now everybody's going to have to be a 5 heed

hour tiered practitioner by dpw we're wondering if all the hundred hour trained professionals permit holders are going to grandfathered into the 5 heed or go back to school and be able to open their own establishment we're lowering the tier for the progression which could also be a huge will that for human trafficking we're not addressing human trafficking by allowing that as well as - >> thank you before you go i want to let you know if you like you can make a copy and put the consent of the poster on a piper we'll put into the file for the record. >> thank you we have a question for you. >> supervisor wiener. >> you said at the end i didn't fully understand the hundred i'm

wanting to understand. >> so currently under the ordinance there are two cars of massage providers first one is the general massage provider and that education level is hundred hours second one is an advanced massage practitioner and that is 200 hours so the new ordinance is proposing that all massage therapists have to have 5 heed hours that's the state level but what's happening to all the current permit holders no grandfather clause in the proposed ordinance. >> through the chair. >> supervisor katie tang. >> so per suggestions from several people if the massage community we're increasing the number of hours of training to 5 heed hours to match the c m t c requirement we've heard it will

be better to align some of the requirements to state requirements that's why we did that i believe all the dpw corresponding but those currently in the process will be fine with the normal i'm sorry the previous required hours this new requirement will kick in thirty days after signed. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> thank you for hearing us supervisors i'm london a california state licensed practitioner and been in business in san francisco i've been a spa professional as a consulate previously a massage therapist no one in this room presidents human trafficking this legislation will not stop it the cost to open a legitimate business only criminals will

afford it no where in the legislation does it talk about the cost in the conditional use authorization and mention any of the costs for the inspections and permit for the building inspection and 13 distinctions within their departments that will be required to opening real massage therapists doesn't have it capital criminals do plus once the permit it can go sold to any permitting location urging the conditional use will not protect and give amnesty to the victims the only way to stop trafficking and give the victims a chance by engaging the police and the da and other agencies that shut down those illegal businesses with uncertified

victims being sold as massage practitioners they will need state and federal support for the legal emotional support so they can start they're new lives this will get the arts community forcing all the practitioners to charge unknown costs to be able to practice massage and only shut down the legitimate people and fail to recognize the human arts program - (clapping). >> okay my friends i know your enthusiastic but this is a rule no applause it helps us keep the

business of the agenda moving forward so when you hear something you like i'd like to off you to shake your finger when you hear something you like or a thumps down no boeing or applause that is a boring meeting but allows us to move expeditiously and you have 2 minutes. >> good afternoon. i represent the junior league of the self-the current director we're here to support supervisor tang's ordinance from the massage police cars regulation due to the fact that san francisco has been named one the past 5 human trafficking for young children for labors as well, this is one of the places that will not just places where

children are now currently being hidden no homes and used no massage par legislators as workers we want to use all the ordinances to use the land use and licenses we hold those licenses will continue to be more regulated and that we will continue to have more are aspects in getting more regulation up and running and utility those laws we know that finances is not as great there are all those spiktsz going to happen we hope we all can work together and want to protect our communities we have a lot of hernia and low income families we can't have all those criminals running around our city to continue to live in the town we support supervisor katie

tang with this. >> thank you i'm going to call up a few more speakers line up by the window (calling names). >> please come forward. >> hi good afternoon. i'm gary i'm the owner and director of the school of massage and bodywork we've been in continual operation since 1969 over 45 years and counting in my opinion the proposed massage legislation will create an xhoourm over burdensome process and hard for our graduates in seeking out the regarding small business opportunity of owning their own massage business those are exempting several practitioners

the fact that i or anyone else want to start a massage business and therapist will go through the onerous and extremely unfair conditional use permit the burden is an expensive and knows ordeal it takes up to 9 months to get approved and by signing the lease and begin the expensive lease permit and as you imagine paying those enormous rents is hard for a small business owner the illegal anyone else businesses can withdrawal that type of rule but the small business will not not try to open a massage business they'll simply go elsewhere and

in my opinion the conditional use permit must be written it is unfair and discretionary and no other business is forced to go through this onerous expensive and weed out the bad actors we want legitimate businesses to stay - >> next speaker >> good afternoon. i love speaking after gary witness i'm the government chair for the massage organization as a massage therapist and as advocates we end up in this position how could we be against the structural of human trafficking we're in favor of the ordinances that regulate massage recordkeeping and others

issues that property owner to anyone else establishment and keeping the quarter and performing sex acts has nothing to do with to with massage therapist don't run the establishment criminals please step forward and run those are massage businesses i'm sorry those establishments as a result rule the massage profession didn't have bad actors it is harmed by imposter outdoors and criminals and there's nothing magical about using massage as a cover for sex trafficking a conditional use will prevent a criminal to have a brothel. >> crimes will find another way

for human trafficking they'll only open somewhere else thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello supervisors my name is amanda i'm a a massage therapist and small business owner in san francisco i have a thousand hours of training i've been practicing for 12 years i've done everybody to differentiate myself from the bad actors i'm all for legislation that helps differentiate massage therapist or athletes from the pirates let's use enforcement tactics against massage par legislators so they will not hide under us and i support the police department and did you want who work carefully with the

organization like the c amt c to make sure that is being done i'm all for somebody come in and spiks my business to make sure i'm a liability business the conditional use that is the barrier to entry that is prepared is not that fail-safe it will only keep liability people from going forward i appreciate some exemptions are being made trying to help people in business stay in business their issues with that considering flying zoning regulations i want to see that addressed before this legislation is approved and either way going forward in a profession it is simply unfair for someone that want to open a legitimate practice thank you for your time and consideration.

>> thank you very much. next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors i speak in support of the legislation promoted by supervisor katie tang i am julia current commissioner on the san francisco commission on the status of women and a co-chair of the collaborative against human trafficking is an attorney for the past 14 years as your heard from the labor california is one of the 4 depreciations the san francisco bay area is on the top 13 list every trafficking victims we need to take preventive manufacture and supervisor tang's proposed legislation takes the appropriate measures the mayor indeed has seen human trafficking as a top priority and has a human trafficking task

force we've gone ought to do education and outreach and held conferences and placed as a policy priority for the department to work on human trafficking issues legitimate businesses should welcome a strong regulatory infrastructure for the unfair businesses that doesn't comply that is not as punitive but for the protection of public and prosecution is expensive there's. >> human cost most vulnerable people are engaged as victims of human trafficking immigrants humans and children's this is between 13 and 14 years of age those victims can't speak for themselves that's why we're here today. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker,

please. >> hello, i'm beverly i'm the director of governmental affairs c n t c didn't care about the permit we've been mandated to keep prostitution and the sex industry out of the massage through the certificate program last year, we got some information of the incident reports for sexual activity with the trafficking and we've taken action on all of them unlike san francisco they've don't make arrests and fines are not issued and no doj reports if the city didn't give us information we'll not be able to take action personally i hope you lower the standards to the illicit people don't come through the program

san francisco has yet to conform one victim perhaps since 2004 or rescue anyone is a shame to the profession and the rest of the california cities and counties can't codify working with the organization and disciplining those with sexual services in 20 years of speaking on it is city council meetings where the ordinances were being considered i've not seen with without representation and the 6 heed an hour attorneys have not been at any hearings it is the illicit industry sees no threat if this ordinance thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> i just wanted to since this is a representative i want to conform our speaking on behalf

of whole c m t c if you can state it in the microphone. >> this is a i have not had a chance to run my comments through the board this is our position we do not want - we want city and counties to regulate prostitution and to work with us and it is also the position of the legislator of the city and county in the attempt of ab for the cities and counties to share information. >> only want to clarify c m t c is in favor of the enforcement i want to make sure which position before i call up the next speakers i want to call up a few more cards

(calling names). >> good afternoon supervisors. thank you for considering the point of view of the industry my name is adams the owner of example 0 therapy i employ 3 therapist and thank you to commissioner chan for the amendments on the legalization and to supervisor wiener so for the proposed trailing legislation that sounds like workable solutions as far as being treated fairly and the representative from the department of public health we're misleading our constituents in saying we're being treated unfairly we've spoken many time as being clarified as a healing arts profession like chiropractors

and number of censory medical professionals when we look at the regulatory professionals none of them have to go through what we do and other businesses that are going through we see medical cannabis dispensary and bars and businesses that generally have a huge amount of capital and are not healing or professionals we're often smaller and lower funded professional services the other thing that are worth booemd a patch use of land use & transportation committee where massage therapist therapy is not weeded out in a number of districts there where there is a good purpose to have those massage and other healing professionals will be allowed the reason on the state level

the massage therapist felt they were being treated unso thank you very much. >> all right. good afternoon. i'm a certified person in the anyone else therapist and the owner of a massage place in bruno heights in my practice i treat serious injuries and acute disorders yet because i provide hands on therapy the proposed legislation will have background checks and fingerprinting at the state level it is regulated as adult entertainment i appreciate supervisor tang's for practitioners and businesses, however, the current language is unclear how needed functions and

practitioners the proposed amnesty will cost $2,000 if a space is shared by 4 practitioners that office has to be inspected by fire and health and planning by at a cost of $8,000 for not only a single room in the mission it is radically out of scale for the practitioners business possible a year share of rent and deprive those of earning a living clinicians need to pay triple that amount to pay for the permit and seek the anyone else establishment in exist commercial or medical buildings to meet the establishment is by no means certain thank you.

>> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors my name is grant i'm a enforced massage therapist i want to say it feels having this legislation that the fraction as put in place is not fair to someone as myself a solo practitioner i could have amnesty or being grandfathered in i hadn't had the resources under those conditions as many people said i feel that human trafficking is a big concern but don't see the language that differentiate or sets the get that is going to have an impact on the issue it makes setting up