to really get the prediction right and that way you'll have a test and figure out what to do when trouble it's not that that will but perfectly suited to the conditions finally this concerns the van ness brt project cac recommendations staff work with existing businesses along van ness avenue to mitigate the facts of theirprogram and all those things about how construction effects the businesses on the street our play into this one as well questions >> director ramos. >> i appreciate the concern around small businesses during construction that is something

that agency is set up for supporting the businesses and as we've seen with the central subway the thing i have a concern around the support for businesses after constructions and recognizing the limitation that some of us or some funding i should say we have with respect with the money we have to for example a lot of funding for the brt projects from mined is from the fta and that pounding it restricted with with respect to how it can be used and challenging to use funds for transportation dollars for economic development after a project has been implemented and so i'll encourage our committee to really conducted a rigorous

explanation of funding sources for supporting those businesses after the prestigious are implemented it is a noble endeavor there you are concern colors of money so to speak concern dollars for certain things i understand the money for the brt project can't be used for projects after it has been implement if i can make that request. >> we don't have staff unfortunately but certainly we're looking at that my understanding of the long term economic issues is whether or not the construction has changed the situation on the street and in a negative way instead of a positive way because of changes that were made for example, eliminating parking spaces or doing other things that don't seem to be working on

the street is it so my understanding that is the important part of it not to take over an oewd function of the success of that street but that if the agency and the design that was executed and built has missed something somewhere a way to correct the mistakes i'm not sure you've got money for that but that's the prime thing nobody expects you to be primarily responsible for the development in the neighborhood i would think i'll bring that message back to the cac. >> the motion we're on the on the same page especially a clarifying our last meeting we're definitely working together on that one. >> we're on the record we're

saying an environmental impact report looking at the things and the refinement of the issues that will take under advisement the issues are not necessarily financial issues but the busses and bus stations to do advertise for example for the businesses and things like that it is not always around money but the enforcement once the improvement are in people parking too long at meter but the point the economic impact what the issues should be specific to the role our agencies plays with what we have not as mr. weaver said not the economic development arm for the neighborhood we don't have the ability that is fair, i think that the key with the studies will be looked at short

term and long-term obviously when traffic patterns in the beginning upcoming people evaluated for patterns during construction and reevaluate digging out the reiterations and looking at things to tell and looking at what types of things to be murder and the issue of our job enforcement and generally the assets. >> thank you, again, for all the fine work and the recommendations that come out of the advisory committee. >> mr. chairman you'll asked 33 me to call 11 to increase the airport for taxicab trips for sfo from two to $4 and item 12 authorized the director to have the wave of the 2016 for medallions and fiscal year

relationship a card renewable fees for all taxicabs drivers. >> good afternoon. >> hi good afternoon kate with the taxis and assessable services for item 11 the sfo trips that a driver may charge a driver from two to $4 sfo charges the taxicab drivers for trips originally at sfo and currently $2 and the airport commission approved an increase in the trip fee dollars in may effective january one 2015 to sfo has not implemented the fees in the trips cost research staff is requesting an increase from

two to $4 to pass into the customers and one important things in the context the taxis again only pay the fees on the picks up not the drop out and the t c p-385 that fee will increase to $4 coming in the fall item 12 shall i continue on for item 12 the medallion resume and fee renewal that renewable fees waved for the post medallions and a card renewable fees for the taxicab drivers it continues to experience under rigid exerts and post k medallions to affiliate some of the costs the

medallion holders are facing there are 200 and 93 pre k medallions and corporate and standard pre k and the question has come up why not wave the feces for pre k medallions they're the income mechanism an investment no kriefg requirement for the pre k pink triangle medallions and pre k medallions don't participate in the industry they've generated numerous income and most are not drivers on lease the medallions to receive a monthly lease payment their held by an individual or corporation prior to 1978 a minimum of a few years in 2011 estimated at a point pre

k medallions generated $800,000 and there are 6 heed and 21 post k medallions from seniority and those medallion holders have paid their dues as drivers there are 6 heed and 42 preposterous k medallions based on seniority they've invested money in the city and post k medallion holder are required to drive and have expenses like gate fees and insurance and service on the vehicle, etc. so hence the distinction in terms of the a card renewable fees the drives have been hit hard financial because of the limits t and c on the streets it is facing challenges and working

to understand what created the context in which under regulated t ncs can arrive historic problems of the taxi industry have been well documented and portion of the fragmented industry there are stakeholders groups the drivers, medallion holders and companies and over the years they've been fragmented and adversarial this is hard to get a consensus and to focus on the larger issues of improving the system and dpand taxi mode share it is difficult to patios a meaningful structural reform either one or two stakeholder groups oppose keys improvements

such as the additional medallions and credit cards and the open taxi assess system. the stakeholders groups were acting rational and raising valid concerns from their self-interests but the whole it was difficult for the eco system and often we losing lose sight of the end game the customer service center and the regulation to correct for market imappreciation sfmta is maintaining the overall focus it and then the taxi priorities with the customers even though their opposed strong recollections by themselves can't manifest it's service do we need the partnering for the industry for good serve as a result taxi go regulate for in most cases

opposed by one or two of the industry stakeholder groups implemented the medallion transfer program which is functions as it was set up to allow older medallion holder to sell their medallions and retire and 62 percent of the sales from medallions have gone to medallions 38 percent to the mta but most of the money to the industry altered medallions the issuance of 200 plus medallions and required credit cards and streamline the process on seniority and demand for taxi medallions and not one default on a medallion loan to date el required the dispatch services with the app a provider wooefld we've got $4.8 million

this is for the one item that has not generated much industry opposition rise of the tmcs hispanic because of technical improvement and what's the path forward the taxi industry says the playing field is not level they're able to provide a cheaper service i want to point out the sfmta doesn't have regulations over the the industry the public works does in the past 4 to maintain the focus on customer service center improvement and the taxi service is working to improve the customer service center through more red carpet lanes and mta will be a party to

phase 2 of the c pa services and also going to respond to issues that concerned that have been raised by itself taxicab drivers over the past meeting a number of fishes attacks on drivers the mta takes this seriously and has taken steps we're going looking to improve the on board security cameras that requires the security cameras and signage in the taxis the transportation unit out at the airport to up to date their cameras to make sure their functions and the vehicle has the proper signage when a customer sees their report and on board cameras are- it is a

felon to attack a taxi driver this was was, in fact in place it is a felon and we're work on developing appropriate signage to be posted in taxis similar to taxi vehicles i have - i have a sample again will be similar to the muni vehicles thank you we're working to improve communications with sfpd they've been notified to participate in the new driver classes and meeting later in the month to work out the details we've reviewed the taxi panic bottom concept that's been mentioned based on our research and experiences we glean from other

jurisdictions including toronto and new york and san diego city council and seattle we're not recommending implementation of the pacific bottom because one cameras are almost universally seen a more deterrent and we're working on the requirement we have in place a concern with false alarms and concern that the panic bottoms are not used that often so one jurisdiction that has them in boston the panic bottom was not used this frequently at all so industry feels strongly and i agree that 24/7 is a better dispatch for a deterrent as we move forward we'll bring any further initiative back to the board

i'll be happy to answer any questions >> i have a few questions if it's all right before public comment thank you for that thoughtful presentation that went beyond what's in front of us on the agenda but set the stage i appreciate that and it was very interesting and thank you for responding to our request you get back to us with relieve wore the industry my questions i'm purposing asking before public comment we've here if others my question first why not go all the way to $5? for the pass through >> yes. >> an option and you know that is not something we have contemplated but i think that there's any option on my ends it is about the e latest of the

demand for the customers. >> my next question thank you for the perfect segue will it be feasible to supplied the feces fee from $5 to 250 and dropout for pickup and i realize like the bridges a theory if you get them going one way but the comparison if you split it 250 two ways it will have a demonstration active way of showing the feasibility open this item. >> i have the expert from sfo that if there are no issues from my end if that makes sense i understand having the apples to apples experience so i'll ask if there are concerns from sfo. >> thank you, sir. >> good afternoon,

commissioners and director reiskin the taxi a smart card system the taxi trips the drivers that do the trips go through a gated arm system and use their cards that's where we cue occupy think on the program with the - it goes straight to the curb groups the customer. >> how do we recovery that cost they'll pay $5 overtime they exit; right? so presumably wooul you'll have a taxi driver only recovery 250 for that trip that is the details but before the policy of it putting aside the technique drivers are

charged 5 bucks but you all it didn't necessarily regulate how we get the taxis drivers recovery you can charge the departing sfo 250 and could we not design the meters or a problem if sfo prospective. >> the way they pay sfo through the card system so they have to have a smart card and a device to reinforce us so i want to make sure that the board understand tmc and limos pay for pay for droufl and pick up so they're paying $8 for a truck and taxi derivatives paying - >> as far as i get our $5 i

don't care how the taxi drivers recover that in your situation. >> correct the cost recovery model only at 80 percent cost recovery. >> if i understand correctly it is not an easy way for them to do it but it is - >> correct the way the smart card works when in the garage terminal they swept percipient witness their card when dispatched we call that one prior to going into lot one we swipe their card and taxi driver technically come into the garage if he didn't want to stick warn around can exit without paying but they do that i saw the

accept could they pay that way if they want it to happen. >> the card when their exiting the airport that's the short system i'm leaving the airport within thirty minutes i would not be charged been if the gps tracks them they'll only have to swoip a card when they're leaving and the system will know within the geofence that was discussed with all taxi drivers at the meeting and came up with a consensus. >> anything else. >> thank you for being here and helping us to answer those questions one final question do we the attacks that.

>> referenced in you know, of course taking seriously i'm glad our focused on the derivatives do we have a sense if those are robberies or non-robbery attacks or a combination of the two. >> as far as i understanding a combination of the two but an increase in the robbery attacks i heard yesterday another one over the weekend. >> i realize the unregd nature of the tmcs make it hard but do we have a sense that can be drivers are attacked more than the tmc drivers. >> i don't have the hard data but talks about a shift in the service that temps are ask him off the higher end customers so. >> they're also cashless. >> i don't think that is the -

the customer based that's causing that but imam i making a false assumption or the reason the folks are being attacked is uber is cash system. >> i think that is safe to say. >> okay must be who wish to speak. >> yes. mr. chairman. >> hi, i'm ken a san francisco can be drivers i i've been for over 10 years thank you i share director heinecke's concern about the $4 charge existing yet another push towards losing customers and i

think this is an excellent idea to split is it and keep it down i'm in favor i have mixed feeling about the airport charge drivers are feeling we're not treated west portal at the airport and that tmcs are allowed to gain the system in a way we're not - tmcs circle the terminal and go to the international term and put fencing in to keep taxis from using the same routes from the garage to come around we're forced to drive to snow avenue or other avenues before we come

back so we're burning up gas taking that 7 mile trip there are - it that my time. >> thirty seconds. >> i'm concerned about safety with tmcs just jump to this an accident on april 26th in which a car hit a bike tenant and seriously injured both riders not recorded if the press and the richmond station in their weekly summary splierd is it as the tenant struck the bicycle and he was >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> (calling names) good afternoon good afternoon, commissioners thank you for the opportunity i want to talk about the

execution of pre k from the exemplification the argument that were begin by the deputy director the pre ks pay $4,000 therefore have to pay well those permit for medallions are issued and reissued to drivers since 1978 the distinction between employee and post ks is labored everyone is benefiting equally i'm concerned those kind of agreements are submitted they're the one in the supporting documents says something about how well since prek are not required to drive can pursue other business opportunities well, the average age from my best estimate of pre k is 70 to

75 their urge to pursue business tuptsz is somewhat diminished i'll urge you to stop this exclusion and include everyone we're all in the same boat. >> >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> (calling names). >> good afternoon, sir. >> in the name of god i'm mohammed i got from india i have 5 stems i've submitted to the lady to give to you i can read it quickly as i've written you know union which i'm the president of the union the one part i'll mention

that the gate for taxi drivers should be come to $50 at the present time taxi drivers are not making money so which is i have 5 items written for you, you this brochure taking the taxicab credits sfmta should not support this action it is unbelievable second we ought to have full-time status to get benefits similar to the city bus drivers third we need the taxi where drivers what rest if they give us property for the taxi whether the way necessary like it that's

the idea all drivers should have training - my lady she told you will that and fourth and fifth police should help stop leveling passengers pickup by people that are not valid drivers this is going on in the city and nobody knows about it so the police should stop because people can't do it so i ask the police to do it thank you for your time and god bless. >> (calling names). >> good afternoon arrest plaintiff good afternoon. >> i'm a pre k driving since 1977 you know i'm old, tired and like to retire but can't retire i drive 5 days a week having a